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[Dimento Graven]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 October 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

I don't know about we, But I have no problem with my enemy having that. Have you ever read a post by me complaining about high Alpha Strikes? You have read I am against Pin Point convergence but I have fought up hill... both ways... to keep large Alphas.

In 100 seconds my Stone Rhino (on TT) puts out almost as much damage In 15 point pops! Against 1/2 as much armor ta-boot!

Yes, perhaps 'we' was a misstatement, but, PGI seems averse to it, and we have seen the plethora of posts of those who objected to it, all of which resulted in the afore mentioned nerfs.

I find the lack of nerfs of this sort of build inconsistent with the past 2 years of 'balancing' PGI has been attempting...

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

1096 in a DW? nah...


But this is good!

[K0M3D14N]

But Jenners are "tier 1" Lights. IMO it's much more difficult to do this:


Or this:



And this was in a Locust 3M:

[Vlad Striker]

TS just don't know... Hi was honored by Proton himself - best of the best.

Edited by Vlad Striker, 02 October 2014 - 08:52 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Dimento Graven, on 02 October 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

Yes, perhaps 'we' was a misstatement, but, PGI seems averse to it, and we have seen the plethora of posts of those who objected to it, all of which resulted in the afore mentioned nerfs.

I find the lack of nerfs of this sort of build inconsistent with the past 2 years of 'balancing' PGI has been attempting...

I find it refreshing.

[Ph30nix]

ehh 1000 damage but only 2 kills?

Learn 2 Aim in my opinion

and i actualy went and skimmed some more posts

People please learn Damage While nice and all doesnt mean crap when your Damage to Kill/assist ratio is pathetic

Edited by Ph30nix, 02 October 2014 - 08:53 AM.

[Adiuvo]

Ph30nix, on 02 October 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

ehh 1000 damage but only 2 kills?

Learn 2 Aim in my opinion

and i actualy went and skimmed some more posts

People please learn Damage While nice and all doesnt mean crap when your Damage to Kill/assist ratio is pathetic

That's not what high damage low kills means when there's also 6 assists involved.

Since everyone died so quickly it's just a case of focus fire.

[Dimento Graven]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 October 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

I find it refreshing.

Perhaps, it would have been nice that the paranoia that caused the Direwhale nerfing of simultaneous quad gauss was delayed at least long enough for us to try it out.

There'd be no possible way for a simultaneous quad gauss blast to match the DPS of the Clan AC boat, the rate of fire just prevents it.

I'm sorry, but I find a sustained rate of 10 DPS for upwards of 2 full minutes "out of whack" and I see it as a problem.

Ph30nix, on 02 October 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

ehh 1000 damage but only 2 kills?

Learn 2 Aim in my opinion

and i actualy went and skimmed some more posts

People please learn Damage While nice and all doesnt mean crap when your Damage to Kill/assist ratio is pathetic

I occasionally play a quad gauss DireWhale, and "normally" I don't get that many kills, nor do I get that much damage.

What I do get is a LOT of assists. I use it to open up an enemy, and let my teammates know "Alpha, open LT", "Bravo, open CT", "Charlie, sweep the legs Johnny", etc.

Usually though I'm going for headshots so, after 37 points of damage, it stops mattering...

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

K0M3D14N, on 02 October 2014 - 08:43 AM, said:

But Jenners are "tier 1" Lights. IMO it's much more difficult to do this:


Or this:



And this was in a Locust 3M:

You need to read the tier list again. The jenner D is tier 2 and the raven 4x is a tier 4

[Joseph Mallan]

Dimento Graven, on 02 October 2014 - 09:03 AM, said:

Perhaps, it would have been nice that the paranoia that caused the Direwhale nerfing of simultaneous quad gauss was delayed at least long enough for us to try it out.

There'd be no possible way for a simultaneous quad gauss blast to match the DPS of the Clan AC boat, the rate of fire just prevents it.

I'm sorry, but I find a sustained rate of 10 DPS for upwards of 2 full minutes "out of whack" and I see it as a problem.

Your opinion is noted and respected. We will have to just disagree over beers!

[Tombstoner]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 October 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

I don't know about we, But I have no problem with my enemy having that. Have you ever read a post by me complaining about high Alpha Strikes? You have read I am against Pin Point convergence but I have fought up hill... both ways... to keep large Alphas.

In 100 seconds my Stone Rhino (on TT) puts out almost as much damage In 15 point pops! Against 1/2 as much armor ta-boot!

Its not the amount of damage Joe its the location....TT is a 2d6 roll in mwo its one spot. in your next TT game. Try this house rule. one hit and one damage location roll. i expect it wil be game breaking.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Dimento Graven, on 02 October 2014 - 07:59 AM, said:

So... We're ok then with builds that can pump out 1100 damage in 2 minutes or less, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT, we're not ok with being able to fire more than 2 gauss at the same time, nor are we ok with gauss and PPC's being fired simultaneously, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseam review of all the OTHER past nerfs for weapon systems/combinations of far less lethality...

Interesting.

or viable LRMs

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 02 October 2014 - 08:27 AM, said:

1096 in a DW? nah...


But this is good!

You cant do that. I did that and have gotten endless **** from the OP for posting my own scores.

But he's not part of the problem lol

Ph30nix, on 02 October 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

ehh 1000 damage but only 2 kills?

Learn 2 Aim in my opinion

and i actualy went and skimmed some more posts

People please learn Damage While nice and all doesnt mean crap when your Damage to Kill/assist ratio is pathetic

I think my best was 700 dmg with like 7-8 kills lol

But Im a horrible shot

[ExplodedZombie]

Glad to see people giving props to someone other than themselves. Nice post.

And yes that is impressive. I've seen Direwolves last 10 minutes and do < 200 damage.

[KharnZor]

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This thread is kinda sad now
It need a lock.