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#1 IronLichRich

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:15 PM

Is the zeus worth buying a la carte or spending MC on? If you've bought a Zeus let me know about your experiences.

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#2 Monkey Lover

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:27 PM

Only buy it if you like the way it looks and seams fun to you.Its not the worst mech in the bag. If you're looking for a comp mech the Zeus is not one of them.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:27 PM

yes. it is glorious. bow to the zues. xl friendly, fast. deadly in skilled hands. not very noob friendly.

Edited by Armorine, 28 May 2015 - 06:28 PM.


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:27 PM

I'd personally wait for the C-bill release. It's a decent 80 tonner, but nothing special. They can be tanky and put of some good numbers if played well, but I prefer my Battlemasters if going assault.

#5 RoboPatton

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:55 PM

Better existing options IMO (Speaking form experience, I have it), although it is scrappy and decent in a brawl.

#6 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 07:22 PM

View PostIronLichRich, on 28 May 2015 - 06:15 PM, said:

Is the zeus worth buying a la carte or spending MC on? If you've bought a Zeus let me know about your experiences.

Thanks

Depends on what you want, and your playstyle.

It's just about the toughest chassis in the game, due to it's very small (for an Assault) profile, ridiculous armor buffs, very good mobility, and being able to tank an XL extremely well. Once it's elited, the only reason I can think NOT to use an XL, is if you are a Bad who has staring issues.... or think that Joysticks are actually good for MWO. Or think that "Zombieing" actually is useful in the current MWO. Not gonna touch on the sword and board build as they make me vomit in my mouth to think about.

It has good mobility. Not gimped with a Huge terrain profile, and able to mount massive XL engines.

What it lacks?

A knockout punch, compared to most other Assaults in Alpha Warrior.

The hardpoints are a bit off from ideal (the 6S and 9S both need a second missile slot in the RA, the 6T desperately could use another Energy slot in the LA). It also suffers from lacking any real high hardpoints. The 5S coming out has some promise as a Brawler though.

Another factor, I find it tough to make a real heat efficient model. It's manageable but for the level of punch you get, you would hope to run cooler. Not a big deal though.

So, if you like mobile combat and brawling, and value being the toughest mech on the block? It's well worth it. If you'd rather be a glass cannon? Or plan to stand toe to toe with a DireWolf? This is not your mech.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 28 May 2015 - 08:04 PM.


#7 Lightfoot

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 07:52 PM

It's a good mech. Loadouts can be tricky to create and limited, but that is partly due to the Laser meta. buy it if you are looking for a 80 tonner.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:07 PM

It can be a fun mech. They are very maneuverable and quick if you equip them with XL engines. In my opinion XL engines are the only thing that make the mech viable in a match. As said above, they are very XL friendly. However their load outs are a little funky. People tend to lean on the lasers with them but you can vary the builds amongst all 3 variants. These mechs are not front line assault mechs. I like to use the term, "Shoot and Scoot." You fire at something and then relocate. Stand in front of another assault with this mech for too long and it's game over.

My load outs tend to sway towards the unconventional. Here are some vids I made of the zeus. Maybe they will give you an idea of their potential and variety.

Zeus 6S


Zeus 9S


Zeus 6T


Hope they help!!
Have fun and see you on the battlefield!

#9 Evan20k

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:16 PM

Standard Engines are okay on them. Their ridiculous armor coupled with most variants being able to run an asym build means that with proper twisting you can take absolutely stupid amounts of damage before kicking the bucket.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:29 PM

I mastered them, and I'm pretty happy with my Zeuses.

I'm a light and medium pilot, so I enjoy thier good speed as assault; and thier are pretty tanky too.
You can also swith ST or XL.

That said, they can be a lot of fun, but I never drop with Zeus in serious drops, for the reasons Bishop explained well.

Maybe waiting for C-bills version would be good.

Edited by Stefka Kerensky, 28 May 2015 - 10:35 PM.


#11 IronLichRich

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 08:34 AM

Thanks for the feedback. Ended up getting a 6S with MC.

#12 Vandul

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 09:33 AM

Congrats. You should like it. I love mine.

#13 Roadkill

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 10:00 AM

The Zeus is easily the tankiest Heavy Mech in the game. Yes, I know it's technically an assault, but that's not how it plays.

It's quirks give it the armor of a much heavier Mech, so while its loadout options aren't the greatest you can sort of fudge that up enough by using an XL engine to make the Mech good. Not comp-worthy, not great, but solidly good. It's a decent sword-and-board Mech also.

You do need to be decent at twisting damage to spread it if you're going to run an XL, though.

I got mine as part of the pack, so while I paid real money for mine I wouldn't recommend that to anyone else. For me it sits in that grey area between almost-worth-paying-$$$ and can't-wait-for-cbills. With foreknowledge, in those cases I almost always wait for c-bills. Without that knowledge, I generally fork over the $$$. Which, of course, is exactly what PGI is counting on.

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 10:50 AM

Its a niche mech. I find that all three IS 80 tonners are niche mechs. They are assault mechs that need to be played as heavies. But, out of the three, it feels like the zeus can take more fire than the awesome and victor. I'm finding the 6S the best for me, booting double ac5s in chain fire works well. And I've also stopped using XL engines, since everyone shoots your torso. Plus, with speed tweak, you can get it way above 70km/h which is always good.

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 10:59 AM

I thought no odd-ball mech would steal my heart like the Quickdraw has but I now find myself with two mistresses with the -6S. :wub:

As others have stated it's not necessarily a forgiving mech but piloted correctly it's a sweet ride with interesting vices...

At the end of the day ya gotta-wanna like it to actually "like" it. ;)

#16 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 11:04 AM

View PostKarpi, on 29 May 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

Its a niche mech. I find that all three IS 80 tonners are niche mechs. They are assault mechs that need to be played as heavies. But, out of the three, it feels like the zeus can take more fire than the awesome and victor. I'm finding the 6S the best for me, booting double ac5s in chain fire works well. And I've also stopped using XL engines, since everyone shoots your torso. Plus, with speed tweak, you can get it way above 70km/h which is always good.

that's because you are using ac5s on chainfire. Doing that largely limits your ability to twist, making your torsos better targets. You can lay down decent, low heat DPS, but really only at the expense of the Zeus' biggest strength, it's ability to really tank. If one wants to run 2x AC5, they are far better served with a DRG-1N.

Mind you, you should run it however you want, but it's kind of like taking a Humvee to a Drag Race.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 29 May 2015 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2015 - 11:11 AM

I'll be getting some too, but I'll have to wait for when they're available for C-Bills.

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 11:41 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 29 May 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:

Mind you, you should run it however you want, but it's kind of like taking a Humvee to a Drag Race.

FWIW I ran my -6S with every concievable configuration plausable... I settled on one and it's quitely litterally taught me how to embrace "gauss" and love it... I have not changed the config since. :wub:

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 11:45 AM

My oddball build is the 6T. 3xASRM6, PPC, and 2 (maybe three) MPL's. The rest is armor and engine.

Good times.

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 11:49 AM

View PostVandul, on 29 May 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

My oddball build is the 6T. 3xASRM6, PPC, and 2 (maybe three) MPL's. The rest is armor and engine.

Good times.

I run 3xaSRM4, 3x Mlasers + LPL on mine. I find the srm4s to be cooler, faster RoF, more ammo efficient and group far tighter. Don't do as much total damage, but tend to do far more concentrated and useful damage, and thus be far more efficient killers.





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