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[Tristan Winter]

Captain Vega's venerable Victor assault mech limped behind the ruins of the old space port, carefully sidestepping the smoking remains of his dead lancemates. With its laser arm blown clean off, it's autocannons out of ammo and all missiles spent, he was effectively defenseless. In the distant background, he could hear the thunderous stomps of enemy mechs, looking for survivors.

He frantically searched the map, looking for possible routes. It would be difficult, but he might find a route permitting even his huge assault mech to sneak back to safety. There was nothing left to do here. He could live to fight another day.

Suddenly, the comms blurted out a wall of static and some incomprehensible chatter.
"This is Bravo One, say again! This is Bravo One, please repeat," exclaimed Captain Vega.
He had never been happier to hear anyone's voice. He wasn't alone after all.
"Bravo One, this is HQ. For God's sake, son. Stop hiding. You're wasting our time."
Captain Vega stuttered, confused. "Wh-what? I think I can make it back to base, sir. Please advise!"
"Bravo One, don't be a coward. Everyone in HQ is waiting to move on to the next match. Just suicide already."
"Suicide? No, sir, I don't think they know where I am."
"Oh, for crying out loud. Are you really going to make us wait eight minutes while you retreat to base and wait for reinforcements? We've got things to do. Just kill yourself."
"K-kill myself?"
A second voice sounded on the comms. A disdainful, cold voice.
"This is Star Colonel Tseng. You are wasting everyone's time, freebirth. Stop pussyfooting."
"Star Colonel, this is Colonel Bisping of the Federated Suns. You'll find our last mech in grid Echo Five. That's Echo Five. He's powered down behind the old spaceport."
There was a slight pause, before the Star Colonel replied:
"ggclose."
Another burst of static marked the end of the conversation. The stomps in the distance grew louder now.


TL;DR - What the **** am I supposed to do when my mech runs out of ammo and I have no more weapons? In what possible scenario does it make sense for all survivors to suicide because they don't want to waste other people's time?

At least give us an eject button that can only be activated if you have no functioning weapons. If not, I'll just crawl back to base and wait for the timer to drop to 00:00. What's the point of having cockpitglass and ambient sounds for immersion!!11 if we have to kill ourselves in the end, just to end the match? To the sound of some spacemonkey warhorn...

EDIT: Since many of you don't have time to read a whole post (lol, irony), let me be clear: sometimes you are disarmed because enemy mechs have destroyed your energy weapons. It's not just a matter of bringing a backup weapon.

Edited by Nicolai Kabrinsky, 07 October 2014 - 10:37 AM.

[Mcgral18]

You could do the smart thing and take a WubShee, which is guaranteed to never run out of ammo!


Otherwise, give coords and disco if you really want to, or suicide rush, or just give coords and take a break. You'll get your full earnings and the match will end soon enough. Not much you can do when you're the last one.

[KraftySOT]

ROFL

I mean its just a game...but...its also just 8 minutes of your life. I have no idea what to tell you. Nothing is stopping those goons from quitting the match grabbing another mech and heading out. Do whatever you think is right, until such time as PGI figures this out.

[DEMAX51]

Well-written, and very funny!

[Ph30nix]

funny but in the end you were the one who chose to not take any back up weapons and to go 100% into the ballistic weapons.

So suck it up buttercup and either go suicide or do your team a favor and act as a meat shield for someone else you shouldn't be going back to base to hide (okay maybe 1 match out of 1000 this is a good idea)

Because honestly they should NEVER allow someone to just ditch a game and get rewards just because they ran out of ammo.
Go ahead and add in a Vote to concede option that requires your team to be losing already and still require X amount of teammates to agree. No suicide.

Edited by Ph30nix, 07 October 2014 - 09:36 AM.

[IceSerpent]

Nicolai Kabrinsky, on 07 October 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

TL;DR - What the **** am I supposed to do when my mech runs out of ammo and I have no more weapons? In what possible scenario does it make sense for all survivors to suicide because they don't want to waste other people's time?

On assault or conquest you can try to cap. On skirmish just hide in the corner - people who play that mode made a conscious choice to not have any "safety net" for ending the match, it would be kind of rude to prevent them from enjoying the full consequences of that choice.

[Fut]

Nicolai Kabrinsky, on 07 October 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

What the **** am I supposed to do when my mech runs out of ammo and I have no more weapons? ..

My suggestion would be to stop building Mechs that are 100% dependent on ammunition.
There's a reason why Mechs designed for long engagements carried lots of lasers.

[Thorqemada]

I was in a match and our side hat 3 Mechs left - a Gauss-Jager und 2 DWs both were out of ammo.
The Enemy had 1 Timberwolf who was still pretty healhty and the DWs played meatshiled for the Gaussjager that was able to leg the Timberwolf with the last round of ammo (also one ST was destroyed meanwhile).

Now a legged Timberwolf vs 3 out of ammo Mechs...he was not able to kill one until a ressource win occured as it was conquest mode.

Edited by Thorqemada, 07 October 2014 - 09:34 AM.

[Almond Brown]

Go draw "more" enemy fire. Just like an "eject" button really. LOL!

[Bilbo]

Fut, on 07 October 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

My suggestion would be to stop building Mechs that are 100% dependent on ammunition.
There's a reason why Mechs designed for long engagements carried lots of lasers.

He had backup weapons. They destroyed the arm that holds them.

[Tristan Winter]

Ph30nix, on 07 October 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

funny but in the end you were the one who chose to not take any back up weapons and to go 100% into the ballistic weapons.
So suck it up buttercup and either go suicide or do your team a favor and act as a meat shield for someone else.

Fut, on 07 October 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

My suggestion would be to stop building Mechs that are 100% dependent on ammunition.
There's a reason why Mechs designed for long engagements carried lots of lasers.

Didn't you read my wittle story there?

The Victor, for example, has all energy weapons in one arm. And enemies tend to target that arm, because a Victor without arms is largely useless. So sometimes, you bring lasers as backup, and then you lose them. And then you run out of ammo.

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

The Star Colonel is using contractions in his speech which, as I understand it, is sacrilege to true born Clan society. Further to that, only a freebirth would speak in such a way and freeborns do not rise as high as Star Colonel in any Clan.

[Budor]

[OuttaAmmo NoWai]

You didn't bring a backup head laser?

NO WAI!

[Bishop Steiner]

Nicolai Kabrinsky, on 07 October 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

Captain Vega's venerable Victor assault mech limped behind the ruins of the old space port, carefully sidestepping the smoking remains of his dead lancemates. With its laser arm blown clean off, it's autocannons out of ammo and all missiles spent, he was effectively defenseless. In the distant background, he could hear the thunderous stomps of enemy mechs, looking for survivors.

He frantically searched the map, looking for possible routes. It would be difficult, but he might find a route permitting even his huge assault mech to sneak back to safety. There was nothing left to do here. He could live to fight another day.

Suddenly, the comms blurted out a wall of static and some incomprehensible chatter.
"This is Bravo One, say again! This is Bravo One, please repeat," exclaimed Captain Vega.
He had never been happier to hear anyone's voice. He wasn't alone after all.
"Bravo One, this is HQ. For God's sake, son. Stop hiding. You're wasting our time."
Captain Vega stuttered, confused. "Wh-what? I think I can make it back to base, sir. Please advise!"
"Bravo One, don't be a coward. Everyone in HQ is waiting to move on to the next match. Just suicide already."
"Suicide? No, sir, I don't think they know where I am."
"Oh, for crying out loud. Are you really going to make us wait eight minutes while you retreat to base and wait for reinforcements? We've got things to do. Just kill yourself."
"K-kill myself?"
A second voice sounded on the comms. A disdainful, cold voice.
"This is Star Colonel Tseng. You're wasting everyone's time, Inner Sphere scum. Stop pussyfooting."
"Star Colonel, this is Colonel Bisping of the Federated Suns. You'll find our last mech in grid Echo Five. That's Echo Five. He's powered down behind the old spaceport."
There was a slight pause, before the Star Colonel replied:
"ggclose."
Another burst of static marked the end of the conversation. The stomps in the distance grew louder now.


TL;DR - What the **** am I supposed to do when my mech runs out of ammo and I have no more weapons? In what possible scenario does it make sense for all survivors to suicide because they don't want to waste other people's time?

At least give us an eject button that can only be activated if you have no functioning weapons. If not, I'll just crawl back to base and wait for the timer to drop to 00:00. What's the point of having cockpitglass and ambient sounds for immersion!!11 if we have to kill ourselves in the end, just to end the match? To the sound of some spacemonkey warhorn...

While I agree with the end point, having a "concede" feature of some sort, I really would worry about all the lily livered people using it before they were the last man standing in such a situation.

To me...why would I, as the sole survivor, disarmed, want to stare at my base for 8 minutes? I got better things to do, myself. If there is ANY chance of pulling a win (like the enemy are down to 2-3 extremely damaged units that seem dumb enough to push on my base defenses), then sure, I'll fight til the bitter end.

But seriously, are you that concerned about your stats that you won't just finish it off? Because there certainly isn't any other reason for dragging it out like that.

[Tristan Winter]

AH Keira_NZ, on 07 October 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:

The Star Colonel is using contractions in his speech which, as I understand it, is sacrilege to true born Clan society. Further to that, only a freebirth would speak in such a way and freeborns do not rise as high as Star Colonel in any Clan.

Good point.

Mods, delete this thread. I am Jack's complete and utter failure.

[Corbon Zackery]

Step one would be to buy a laser.

You can still target enemy mechs and spot for LRMs.

You still have armor and can act as a soak tank for enemy fire helps if you have a laser to distract them.

You can still maneuver creating a false sensor echo or use yourself as bait for a ambush.

Bumping does do damage in some cases.

You can scout and relay enemy positions.

:rolleyes:But really you need to buy a laser.

Edited by Corbon Zackery, 07 October 2014 - 09:44 AM.

[Tesunie]

As soon as they "tattle" on your location, screen shot and report to support.

[Bilbo]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 October 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

While I agree with the end point, having a "concede" feature of some sort, I really would worry about all the lily livered people using it before they were the last man standing in such a situation.

To me...why would I, as the sole survivor, disarmed, want to stare at my base for 8 minutes? I got better things to do, myself. If there is ANY chance of pulling a win (like the enemy are down to 2-3 extremely damaged units that seem dumb enough to push on my base defenses), then sure, I'll fight til the bitter end.

But seriously, are you that concerned about your stats that you won't just finish it off? Because there certainly isn't any other reason for dragging it out like that.

It is not his responsibility to die so the match can end. It is the enemies responsibility to hunt him down and destroy him. No freebies. You have to work for it.

[nitra]

watched a few matches last night quite possibly the same dire wolf with 5 uac5 load out. (quite funny)

sure he was a menace, hell , he alone was able to even odds of his beleagured team but alas his ammo holds ran out

and the daka ended in ... only thing left for him to do was to pathetically try and ram the last one legged severly gimped gryphon to no avail

after a minute or 3 ... the gryphon finally cracked the wolf open and ended his misery ...


a similar event happened soon afterward possibly same pilot with the same build but this time he was accompanied with 3 of his buddies who also ran out of ammo .


fortunately for them it was resource cap and they were ahead on points or all 3 would have been decimated by a medium mech.

if their uac5 boat is so critical im sure they could spare 1 ton of ammo for a laser .. if thats just to much than half it and equip a small laser ...


daka will still rain death and when the reserves are used up that wolf has at least one tooth left .

Edited by nitra, 07 October 2014 - 09:52 AM.