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[Adamasartus]

Greetings Mechwarriors, fellow Clansmen and Freebirth scum!

Just as a thought exercise if the Clans and Inner Sphere swapped weapons who would come off best?

Do you think a Jenner with 6 ERMLAS would be effective? How about the dreaded Direwolf with 6 IS U/AC5s?

If they were swapped what builds would you use?

[Mcgral18]

IS MLs for the Nope-Va plz.

[Impyrium]

Probably a complex question- does the ghost heat penalties also transfer? Weight? Which 'Mechs?

[FupDup]

Mcgral18, on 08 October 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

IS MLs for the Nope-Va plz.

Badders would get IS ERLLs and MLs for way better heat efficiency...

[Monkey Lover]

Clans would come off better with a swap thats for sure.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Monkey Lover, on 08 October 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

Clans would come off better with a swap thats for sure.

Would they?

With their limited space already, mechs like the Summoner would be hosed if all it's weapons took up 1-2 more crits per and weighed 1-3t more.....they would be screwed.

Only maybe the Dire Whale would really benefit from the ability to PPFLD with ACs.....but past that, I dont see how it would be a benefit...except maybe for the Pulse lasers....IS onesare fast.

[Monkey Lover]

LordKnightFandragon, on 08 October 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

Would they?

With their limited space already, mechs like the Summoner would be hosed if all it's weapons took up 1-2 more crits per and weighed 1-3t more.....they would be screwed.

Only maybe the Dire Whale would really benefit from the ability to PPFLD with ACs.....but past that, I dont see how it would be a benefit...except maybe for the Pulse lasers....IS onesare fast.

Well summoner is a pos to start off with nothing is going to fix it

[Koniving]

Adamasartus, on 08 October 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:

Greetings Mechwarriors, fellow Clansmen and Freebirth scum!

Just as a thought exercise if the Clans and Inner Sphere swapped weapons who would come off best?

Do you think a Jenner with 6 ERMLAS would be effective? How about the dreaded Direwolf with 6 IS U/AC5s?

If they were swapped what builds would you use?

In tabletop?
The Clans would epically lose every fight after the exchange.

In MWO? The Clans would become the only viable things to play in terms of ballistics if Clan and IS mechs swapped. Single shot ACs are just insane.
Despite Clan extended range, I think the Clan mechs using IS lasers would be far better than the vice-versa.

In terms of missiles if Clan and IS swapped, Clan would reign supreme. IS missiles (SRMs) have extra damage and with those in Clan talons...

Though IS mechs using streak-6s would make for an interesting twist. Inner Sphere LRM boats would become more popular with clan style LRMs making ghost heat almost unnoticeable.

Inner Sphere mechs would suffer with Clan bap. It's very selective (only counters a targeted mech). But IS mechs would LOVE Clan ECM and AMS ammo (lighter ECM, and twice as much ammo per ton).

Inner Sphere light/medium mechs would have an easier time using ballistics (because Clan ballistic weapons are lighter). IS mechs in general could all run standard engines while carrying their usual XL-engine loadouts if they were using the Clan weaponry.

Edited by Koniving, 09 October 2014 - 06:37 AM.

[101011]

The Jenner would be wrecked by being forced to deal with the 'superiour' Clan lasers in the same way that the Nova would definitely benefit from the 'inferior' Spheroid lasers. While the ballistics are lighter, they are also far weaker than the Spheroid versions, so the Clans would benefit there as well (excluding the Gauss heavies, which would still be solidly in the hands of the Sphere). Missile wise, I think it would be closer, though the Clans would probably pull it out, even with the reduced tube counts.

[Monkey Lover]

Koniving, on 08 October 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

In terms of missiles if Clan and IS swapped, Clan would reign supreme. IS missiles have extra damage and with those in Clan talons...

Streaming lrm from the clan weapons are shot down with ams to easy. IS srms have more range and more dmg.

Streaks are worthless on both.

In my view.

[El Bandito]

Penta IS LRM 10 for the Warhawk. Prepare for your CT destruction.

[Eddrick]

Interesting topic

I would like to give it a try with Clan ERPPC, Clan Gauss Rifle, and Clan Lasers on my IS Mechs. Adding more heat sinks and upgrading engine with the saved weight/critical slots. Basically, a Clan upgrade with the Clan weapons that didn't get heavily nerfed below IS performance quality.

Clans would probably come out ahead with the trade though. Their XL engine, Double Heat Sinks, Endo Steel Internal Structure, still make up the difference in weight and critical slot space of IS weapons.