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[Big Tin Man]

Deathlike, on 10 October 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

I think people "misunderstand" the whole kill = 1 point situation. If it had the most points, the assist is devalued, especially when people will try to solo more vs their opponents just to collect 3 points. With it being 1 point, sure someone will get "less points" than the rest of their team, but everyone gets an opportunity at the assist... plus, you don't mind padding your k-d ratio do you?

You shouldn't be punished for getting the kill. This is the problem.

I understand the kamakazie pilot issue, but when it's 0-11, what are you going to do beside hug that dire wolf with a cherry red CT? Early in a match the pilot stands to get more points by helping the team, not going headfirst into their demise.

Edited by Big Tin Man, 10 October 2014 - 09:25 AM.

[Deathlike]

Big Tin Man, on 10 October 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

I'd be ok with it if kills and assists are equal in value (though I still think that isn't right). The fact that a locust with an er large that splashes everyone gets more points than the people actually doing the work killing is fundamentally wrong.

Did the pilot who got the kill shot do anything more or less than the pilot who took the first shot?

Here's a way of thinking of it.

Even if you tag everyone in the match, as long as that target DOES NOT DIE, then you get 0 points. Even in a 12-0 roflstomp, you gain nothing in a losing situation if an enemy target does not die.

[Hayato1983]

Good to see assists and diversity in the challenge. That said, its just ok

Edited by Hayato1983, 10 October 2014 - 09:24 AM.

[Deathlike]

Big Tin Man, on 10 October 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

You shouldn't be punished for getting the kill. This is the problem.

It's not a punishment. When was the last time padding a k-d stat a bad thing?

Again, ASSISTS ARE NOT GRANTED if the target doesn't die. It's logical. So as long as that < 10% health mech target doesn't die, EVERYONE get ZERO points for that.

Edited by Deathlike, 10 October 2014 - 09:24 AM.

[TercieI]

Deathlike, on 10 October 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

I think people &quot;misunderstand&quot; the whole kill = 1 point situation.

If it had the most points, the assist is devalued, especially when people will try to solo more vs their opponents just to collect 3 points. With it being 1 point, sure someone will get &quot;less points&quot; than the rest of their team, but everyone gets an opportunity at the assist... plus, you don't mind padding your k-d ratio do you?

So make them 2&2. No extra pressure, but no punishment either. Making kills less is really silly.

[Rebas Kradd]

Deathlike, on 10 October 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

I'm not sure how Christopher Columbus feels.

Never mention Columbus Day while working at a reservation school.

[Tahawus]

I think of it this way...That scoring is a way to get people out of their Dire Wolves and into something with greater variety. It's a minor step towards reducing emphasis on meta build mechs. (Unless you consider the do damage, but not kill another meta).

[Big Tin Man]

Tahawus, on 10 October 2014 - 09:30 AM, said:

I think of it this way...That scoring is a way to get people out of their Dire Wolves and into something with greater variety. It's a minor step towards reducing emphasis on meta build mechs. (Unless you consider the do damage, but not kill another meta).

I have no issue with the rest of the scoring (i.e. spotting, tag and narc bonus). Hell, I like it. That alone promotes people in getting out of their meta e-peen K/D padding machines.

I just hate saying, awww poopstick, I killed him. That is fundamentally wrong and not fun.

[ApolloKaras]

Question.... you make a challenge for Conquest but no incentives to actually cap. Right now we're all playing it like Skirmish

[Tahawus]

Big Tin Man, on 10 October 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

I just hate saying, awww poopstick, I killed him. That is fundamentally wrong and not fun.

I've heard you say many things, but "Awww poopstick, I killed him." is not one of them. You will be required to use that phrase this weekend anytime you get a kill.

[Big Tin Man]

Saxie, on 10 October 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

Question.... you make a challenge for Conquest but no incentives to actually cap. Right now we're all playing it like Skirmish

What are these 'caps' you speak of?

Tahawus, on 10 October 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

I've heard you say many things, but "Awww poopstick, I killed him." is not one of them. You will be required to use that phrase this weekend anytime you get a kill.

I'm driving my tag/narc LL ECM Raven 3L all weekend. Won't be an issue, I can't kill a thing in that.

[Greenjulius]

There are going to be a lot of narcs flying around this weekend. Prepare to stay in cover or suffer LRMageddon.

[Zen Hachetaki]

Are people really spending this much time qqing abut a scoring system that is NOT COMPETITIVE BETWEEN PLAYERS??? It is simply a way to encourage team play and avoid what we saw in the last challenge with coring teammates who happened to get in the way as you are so over consumed with getting the kill shot.

This is a simply challenge that is "do this" and get reward. Simple. And as said, assists don't count unless the mech goes down. I run a spider often and guess what - I drive the enemy crazy but get few kills and low damage - have I done less to secure the win? No. Believe me, it is not worth any further effort to debate this topic.

Of note PGI - on the Stats page where you check you progress someone needs to do a spell check - "Challange"?

Z

[Phadrus Corpus]

My points aren't showing up yet and I've been at it for a half hour. What's up with that?

[AlbertoT16]

Nice one! 3 Cockpit items...you guys are very generous lately!

[CGB Behemoth]

Playing 40 minutes already in Conquest mode. Still 0 points of challenge. Is it working?

[Belorion]

InnerSphereNews, on 10 October 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

Note:
To earn points, you must be playing the correct game mode for the day
You can play in solo or group queue.

Yes!

[sabujo]

Phadrus Corpus, on 10 October 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

My points aren't showing up yet and I've been at it for a half hour. What's up with that?

Behemothk, on 10 October 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Playing 40 minutes already in Conquest mode. Still 0 points of challenge. Is it working?

It is happening to me as well. Fourth game already (plenty assists and spottings) and 0 points.

[Appogee]

Nice, thanks.

[NaZotH]

Same here. 2 Good games and 0 points.

But hey it says: Conquest Game Mode Challange.....