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#21 IraqiWalker

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 04:35 PM

View PostAppogee, on 11 October 2014 - 10:11 AM, said:

Russ just confirmed for me via Twitter: the CN9-AH has ballistic and missile hardpoints.

If they can bump the ballistic count to 4, I would really love that. Strap a big XL, SRM6s, 4MGs, and join the fight shortly after the brawl starts to mop up, and tank.

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 04:54 PM

Canon has it at an AC in the arm and 2 missile slots in the torso which was like it was in beta. However that pic which I think everyone took as a representation of the variant we are going to see, obviously has 2 energy hard points in the CT.

So either we are getting a custom variant of the AH or the Centurion pictured was just a standard variant showing off the new Geometry. Guess we will see in a few weeks.

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 04:59 PM

View PostLordKnightFandragon, on 11 October 2014 - 12:36 AM, said:

3b? In one arm? On the centurion? How can you possibly put 3b in one spot on that mech? MGs? Ac2?

I'm rather expecting AC10, 2xMG, 2xSRM4 to be a popular build.

#24 Lil Cthulhu

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

View PostAppogee, on 11 October 2014 - 12:17 AM, said:

  • that's a pointless reward for those of us who already paid real money for a YLW.
It's not for you, it's for those of us who were active back in closed beta when the AH was actually around and the Wang wasn't.
It's for those of us who felt royally shafted after the monetization of the only Cent variant that was able to mount an AC/20.
Basically, it's them trying to make amends with the group that has been with them since the inception of this project.

#25 Sadist Cain

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 05:40 PM

View PostAUSwarrior24, on 11 October 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

I'm not saying your question isn't valid, but you didn't need to be so direct about it. But anyway, I apologize for making a thing over it.

View PostAppogee, on 11 October 2014 - 02:00 AM, said:

Accepted, thanks.

How2forum right there.

View PostLil Cthulhu, on 11 October 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:

[/list]It's not for you, it's for those of us who were active back in closed beta when the AH was actually around and the Wang wasn't.
It's for those of us who felt royally shafted after the monetization of the only Cent variant that was able to mount an AC/20.
Basically, it's them trying to make amends with the group that has been with them since the inception of this project.

Damn straight, never used the cent back in CB never cared for it that much but I did know of its legacy and those who loved it so and have many a fond memory of armless cents packing a nasty punch.
To say I'm not excited would be a lie, I don't even care if it's naff, just as long as it's not too naff xD but hey, Freebie and a legend to fight alongside my Sarah variant of the Jenner.

At any rate i just see it as a nice mech to have in the bay.

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 08:27 PM

View PostSadist Cain, on 11 October 2014 - 05:40 PM, said:

How2forum right there.

Damn straight, never used the cent back in CB never cared for it that much but I did know of its legacy and those who loved it so and have many a fond memory of armless cents packing a nasty punch.
To say I'm not excited would be a lie, I don't even care if it's naff, just as long as it's not too naff xD but hey, Freebie and a legend to fight alongside my Sarah variant of the Jenner.

At any rate i just see it as a nice mech to have in the bay.



I was actually a huge fan of the Centurion back in closed beta, especially the AL version but honestly kind of like the Dragon which was god-like for a while back in CB, I just don't thing they are competitive any more, not with so many better designs floating about. Honestly, I think the 45 ton Black Jack or Vindicator are both much better options simply because they can mount the same or more firepower and are much, much smaller in scale, not to mention JJs being an option on them.

Still, free is free so there is that. My only gripe is that I was taking a break from the game when they did the Centurion Champion give away so I can't take advantage of not having to spend the C-bills on two more variants just to master my freebie. That being the case, I am not sure how much play time the AH will get out of me.

Unfortunately same goes for the Atlas too. I kind of like the DDC but with the the Warhawks still upcoming and the cost of modules I am going to have to pay for to outfit for CW, I don't know if I want to invest 12 million or so on another variant that I am just going to turn around and sell for half price as soon as I unlock the basics.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 11 October 2014 - 08:32 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 12:46 AM

View PostViktor Drake, on 11 October 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:



I was actually a huge fan of the Centurion back in closed beta, especially the AL version but honestly kind of like the Dragon which was god-like for a while back in CB, I just don't thing they are competitive any more, not with so many better designs floating about. Honestly, I think the 45 ton Black Jack or Vindicator are both much better options simply because they can mount the same or more firepower and are much, much smaller in scale, not to mention JJs being an option on them.

Still, free is free so there is that. My only gripe is that I was taking a break from the game when they did the Centurion Champion give away so I can't take advantage of not having to spend the C-bills on two more variants just to master my freebie. That being the case, I am not sure how much play time the AH will get out of me.

Unfortunately same goes for the Atlas too. I kind of like the DDC but with the the Warhawks still upcoming and the cost of modules I am going to have to pay for to outfit for CW, I don't know if I want to invest 12 million or so on another variant that I am just going to turn around and sell for half price as soon as I unlock the basics.


Beam Wang

Use that on the AL

As for the A, or D. That's your preference, and I personally think that unless you want to get dedicated to light hunting or long range support, go with the A.

#28 Kyle Wright

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 03:29 AM

For God sake people need to learn to research a little instead of going off a wild arse guess. The AH was in this game prior. Quick reddit search and you would've seen several post with customer loyalty discussed. Furthermore several people confirmed the harpoints.

This being said anyone who has piloted a Yen Lo knows this mech will be D.O.A. In the current state of the game. Right arm is always targeted hard.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 03:42 AM

View PostKyle Wright, on 12 October 2014 - 03:29 AM, said:

This being said anyone who has piloted a Yen Lo knows this mech will be D.O.A. In the current state of the game. Right arm is always targeted hard.

I just got out of a game with my YLW where I got 3 kills, 6 assists, 7 component destructions, 700+ damage, and DIDN'T lose my AC arm. In fact, I burned through a full 4 tons of ammo. Part of the reason I can pull this off is because I repaint it to one color. The fools that don't know how to target can't tell the difference between a YLW, CN9-A, or CN9-D without the YLW sporting its trademark sunburst.

EDIT: http://www.twitch.tv/escef/c/4795888 That is a YLW with almost no skill unlocks.

Edited by Escef, 12 October 2014 - 03:52 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:05 AM

I'm going to say it will have 2 Ballistic hard points, 2 laser and 2 missile.

#31 Scratx

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:14 AM

Relevant, from two days ago, in context of the CT laser hardpoints on the AH :

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Posted Image Russ Bullock @russ_bullock · Oct 10
@Sparkhusky huh your right - they must have used the wrong variant - AH is just ballistic and missile - I will bang some heads on Monday


Don't expect to actually get those CT lasers. Unless they can't reapply the skin to the correct mech fast enough to meet Oct 21st deadline, I guess.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:18 AM

The AH will be a powerhouse for those that know how to build it right. A 9-A is still a top 5 mech if built right. That still beats any old splattcat/twolf/maddog/griffin. I ain't saying what build I'll be using but it's gonna be my 8th Centurion.

Oh and I had a 6 kill/900 dmg game in the last challenge and many 4-5 kill games just screwing around in my gauss-wang but didn't opt in until afterwards lmao.....woulda been top 30 for sure if not 15/10.

edit: Wang will still be slightly better as more speed beats a slightly higher alpha....fastest AC20 in the game with natural Centurion tank-ness.

Edited by Murzao, 12 October 2014 - 05:22 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:11 AM

View PostAUSwarrior24, on 11 October 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:


To be frank, the way you put that just sounds bad. It's like getting a new mug from a family member for Christmas and then saying it's no value because you've already got a mug


^^^ Exactly how I read it.


@OP... grow up. They didn't have to give you **** so smile and say thank you. It's a free mech with a UNIQUE skin, hardpoint layout and bonus rewards. You are getting a free hero of one of the most fun mediums in the game.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:31 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 11 October 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

If they can bump the ballistic count to 4, I would really love that. Strap a big XL, SRM6s, 4MGs, and join the fight shortly after the brawl starts to mop up, and tank.

I would really hate it. When the Centurion becomes an SRM boat, the Catapult is a PPC poptart and the Timber Wolf is used as a dual gauss sniper, it just shows what a poor job they've done implementing mechs from the BT lore.

Fortunately, I imagine they will buff Kintaros and Trebs considerably, and we won't see as many Centurion SRM boats in the future.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 08:18 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 12 October 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

I would really hate it. When the Centurion becomes an SRM boat, the Catapult is a PPC poptart and the Timber Wolf is used as a dual gauss sniper, it just shows what a poor job they've done implementing mechs from the BT lore.

Fortunately, I imagine they will buff Kintaros and Trebs considerably, and we won't see as many Centurion SRM boats in the future.


3SRMs is like standard issue on most SRM mechs. I'm not seeing the boating part. Now FIVE! THAT would be boating SRMs. Every centurion ever has had missiles in the torso. From where I'm standing they've done a great job with implementing the mechs.

Unless you're talking specifically about tech 1 mechs. In that case, join us at Stock Mech Mondays

Also, the Catapult is not a PPC poptart. Only the Jester could brely qualify for the job, and it's the second CPLT to have energy weapons in the ears.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 08:46 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 12 October 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Also, the Catapult is not a PPC poptart. Only the Jester could brely qualify for the job, and it's the second CPLT to have energy weapons in the ears.

You might be able to do it with a C1 Catapult with PPCs in the side torsos. Not sure what kind of air time you get with 4 jets on 65 tonner these days, though.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 10:09 AM

View PostEscef, on 12 October 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:

You might be able to do it with a C1 Catapult with PPCs in the side torsos. Not sure what kind of air time you get with 4 jets on 65 tonner these days, though.

I used to see the occasional twin (ER) PPC, twin ML bunny hopping C1s, but not much any more. They were alright and had a surprise factor, but nothing to rave about unless the pilot knew how to make the most of it. And not much. A little bit more time than a 3 jj Shawk.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 10:11 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 12 October 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

3SRMs is like standard issue on most SRM mechs. I'm not seeing the boating part. Now FIVE! THAT would be boating SRMs. Every centurion ever has had missiles in the torso. From where I'm standing they've done a great job with implementing the mechs.

3SRM6's with Artemis, which is a fairly common build for the CN9, along with a couple of medium lasers, is boating in my book.

I don't agree that it's standard issue, but if it was, it would strengthen my argument, not weaken it.

View PostIraqiWalker, on 12 October 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Unless you're talking specifically about tech 1 mechs. In that case, join us at Stock Mech Mondays

I very much plan to, some day. But living in Europe makes it harder.

View PostIraqiWalker, on 12 October 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Also, the Catapult is not a PPC poptart. Only the Jester could brely qualify for the job, and it's the second CPLT to have energy weapons in the ears.

Oh, I've seen several people poptart in their CPLT-C1(F) during the worst days of poptarting. No missiles, just PPCs. It was fairly indicative of just how bad the PPC-mania had become.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 04:15 PM

View PostLil Cthulhu, on 11 October 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:

It's not for you, it's for those of us who were active back in closed beta when the AH was actually around and the Wang wasn't. It's for those of us who felt royally shafted after the monetization of the only Cent variant that was able to mount an AC/20. Basically, it's them trying to make amends with the group that has been with them since the inception of this project.


I understand why you might feel that way. However, PGI specifically said the Centurion is a reward for those who bought MC in the past year.

(Incidentally, I've been here since the beginning of open Beta, and have bought every full pack since then, 8 Hero Mechs, and plenty of MC for other stuff along the way.)

So, my desire to receive a reward which is of value to me isn't unreasonable, I think.

In any case, I'm satisfied with the ballistic/missile hardpoints Russ confirmed.

Edited by Appogee, 12 October 2014 - 04:40 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 04:26 PM

View PostEscef, on 12 October 2014 - 03:42 AM, said:

Part of the reason I can pull this off is because I repaint it to one color. The fools that don't know how to target can't tell the difference between a YLW, CN9-A, or CN9-D without the YLW sporting its trademark sunburst.


I did quite the same with my Yen Lo. I used two slightly different colors. Different wnough to be pretty, similar enough to confuse the enemy. Works perfectly, most assaults ignore you when you walk among heavier 'Mechs like this. The default paint job always looked like a big "shoot here" marking. I just wish I could mount more than four tons of AC20 ammo. :/

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the new geometry. However the fake AC of the A-cent is quite funny. Draws bullets, taking away the fire from my missile doors.





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