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[Helbrecht]

So today i was playing did around 10 matches and i noticed the large numbers of this build in matches and it dawned on me. This build has little to no drawbacks what so ever. most high dmg build have heat issues or are close range etc etc something you can say that gives it negative. but actually looking and studying this build you can see it little has nothing wrong with it.

High Dmg
Low Heat
Decent Projectile Speed
Mid to Long Range
Added Bonus of Making your Opponent Unable To Shoot

The ironic thing is how much hate and angst thier was towards ppc+guass. this frigging thing blows the dmg potential of and ppc+guass build out of the water. you can break 1k dmg in this build without even trying and thats not even a embelishment.

IMO it needs to have it ghost heat increased exponentially.

Edited by Helbrecht, 12 October 2014 - 05:52 PM.

[Mcgral18]

[Karl Marlow]

Ah the sweet sound of clanners trying to get their mechs nerfed before CW.

[Burktross]

You want more ghost heat


Just decrease uac5 knockback

[Alex Warden]

hihihi, funny...i´ve been saying that already when everybody cried about "don´t nerf clans pls" when pgi first announced they´d try to balance them ...

it´s a freakin DIREWOLF, what did you expect? the reason why clan mechs were invented in the first place was to speed up BattleTech matches (more damage, less heat management) ... so, here you have them...

Edited by Alex Warden, 12 October 2014 - 06:03 PM.

[Macster16]

I haven't had much issue with the DakkaWolf at all really. When one starts hosing me down and peppering me with dmg all over, I just duck behind cover.

I have MUCH more issue with dual gauss builds that core me out from the other side of the map when I expose myself for half a second....

[Gyrok]

Helbrecht, on 12 October 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

So today i was playing did around 10 matches and i noticed the large numbers of this build in matches and it dawned on me. This build has little to no drawbacks what so ever. most high dmg build have heat issues or are close range etc etc something you can say that gives it negative. but actually looking and studying this build you can see it little has nothing wrong with it.

High Dmg
Low Heat
Decent Projectile Speed
Mid to Long Range
Added Bonus of Making your Opponent Unable To Shoot

The ironic thing is how much hate and angst thier was towards ppc+guass. this frigging thing blows the dmg potential of and ppc+guass build out of the water. you can break 1k dmg in this build without even trying and thats not even a embelishment.

IMO it needs to have it ghost heat increased exponentially.

No, honestly, anyone running that build runs out of ammo half way through a match if they are doing their job.

It is honestly a bad build...a better build would be 5CUAC5s + 4 ERML. Even then, the damage spread is so massive with the UACs that dakka builds are really only useful for suppression at the moment.

2Gauss + 2PPC is a FAR more effective build, and is honestly still the hardest mech to take down in terms of not losing something first.

The CUACs are honestly looking at a buff from what I can gather because they are currently so inferior to IS ACs that it is not even funny.

[Davegt27]

it will get nerfed

[Alistair Winter]

I realize you're all busy people and this thread will probably get to 10 pages, so here's a TL;DR of what's to come.

• "Lern 2 play" - pr0 gamer
  
• "Dire Wolves are supposed to be better than everything else. Learn 2 Battletech." - TT gamer
  
• "Seems fine to me, dude." - DW owner
  
• "Nerfs make games bad. Just buff everything else in the game, problem solved." - 50% of MWO players
  
• "The Dire Wolf is really slow and can't shoot you if you stay behind it." - Captain Obvious
  
• "This one time, I killed 3 Dakka Wolves in my Dragon." - Liar
  
• "Just snipe them with goose waffles." - Fub Wub
  
• "Sometimes the enemy will have superior technology, and you can't cry about it. In the Korean War, the Russians were supplying North Korea with MiGs and I was stationed on a..." - Joseph Mallan
  
• "Robots." - Vassago Rain

[Lynx7725]

Helbrecht, on 12 October 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

This build has little to no drawbacks what so ever. most high dmg build have heat issues or are close range etc etc something you can say that gives it negative. but actually looking and studying this build you can see it little has nothing wrong with it.

The ironic thing is how much hate and angst thier was towards ppc+guass. this frigging thing blows the dmg potential of and ppc+guass build out of the water. you can break 1k dmg in this build without even trying and thats not even a embelishment.

Here's a drawback. It can't kill things fast enough.

Doing 1k damage is not a good thing for a 100 tonner with 50 tons of weaponry. It should be going out and killing things quickly -- that's why the Dual Gauss/ Dual ER PPC build is so scary, it steps out from cover and things can die very quickly. 6 UAC5s give me (the target) time to get away, and a target that gets away is a target that is now aware of where you are. And if I have any druthers I'd be coordinating an attack on you that will kill you.

[nitra]

it does have one drawback .. Ammo .. i like seeing them going around the map with no ammo its quite funny.

[Helbrecht]

Alistair Winter, on 12 October 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

I realize you're all busy people and this thread will probably get to 10 pages, so here's a TL;DR of what's to come.

• "Lern 2 play" - pr0 gamer
  
• "Dire Wolves are supposed to be better than everything else. Learn 2 Battletech." - TT gamer
  
• "Seems fine to me, dude." - DW owner
  
• "Nerfs make games bad. Just buff everything else in the game, problem solved." - 50% of MWO players
  
• "The Dire Wolf is really slow and can't shoot you if you stay behind it." - Captain Obvious
  
• "This one time, I killed 3 Dakka Wolves in my Dragon." - Liar
  
• "Just snipe them with goose waffles." - Fub Wub
  
• "Sometimes the enemy will have superior technology, and you can't cry about it. In the Korean War, the Russians were supplying North Korea with MiGs and I was stationed on a..." - Joseph Mallan
  
• "Robots." - Vassago Rain

Alistair Winter i love your reply bro <S> i expected the backlash kinda makes me laugh really.

[Monkey Lover]

haha just a matter of time. Clans are going to joke in 6 months

[FupDup]

Alistair Winter, on 12 October 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

I realize you're all busy people and this thread will probably get to 10 pages, so here's a TL;DR of what's to come.

• "Lern 2 play" - pr0 gamer
  
• "Dire Wolves are supposed to be better than everything else. Learn 2 Battletech." - TT gamer
  
• "Seems fine to me, dude." - DW owner
  
• "Nerfs make games bad. Just buff everything else in the game, problem solved." - 50% of MWO players
  
• "The Dire Wolf is really slow and can't shoot you if you stay behind it." - Captain Obvious
  
• "This one time, I killed 3 Dakka Wolves in my Dragon." - Liar
  
• "Just snipe them with goose waffles." - Fub Wub
  
• "Sometimes the enemy will have superior technology, and you can't cry about it. In the Korean War, the Russians were supplying North Korea with MiGs and I was stationed on a..." - Joseph Mallan
  
• "Robots." - Vassago Rain

Actually, Fub Wub would say that the 2 ERLL + 6 ERML + 2 Goose Waffle loadout is usually superior to the 6 UAC/5 dakka variant, as is 2 ER Peeps + 2 Goose Waffle. He would also say that torso twisting and snapshots work well against DoT opponents much of the time.

[Abivard]

And Abivard would say: "MWO is a magic based fantasy world so deal with it."

[CrushLibs]

guass 30 + 30 for the PPC and you don't have to look at the target for 3+ secs and ammo last longer

get off the crack pipe

[Scratx]

It's a dangerous build but not the most dangerous by far.

[Wintersdark]

Yeah, the DakkaWolf is one of the least effective of the major builds. It does much more damage than the gauss/ppc or gauss/laser builds, but is spreads damage massively. Its trivially easy for even lighter mechs to weather its fire for a second or two before getting out of los/into cover/whatever.

On the other hand, the ppfld wolves will tear components off mechs in a single strike - often its the loss of a side torso that informs you there's a gauss/ppc direwolf looking at you.

[Redshift2k5]

Alistair Winter, on 12 October 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

I realize you're all busy people and this thread will probably get to 10 pages, so here's a TL;DR of what's to come.

• "Lern 2 play" - pr0 gamer
  
• "Dire Wolves are supposed to be better than everything else. Learn 2 Battletech." - TT gamer
  
• "Seems fine to me, dude." - DW owner
  
• "Nerfs make games bad. Just buff everything else in the game, problem solved." - 50% of MWO players
  
• "The Dire Wolf is really slow and can't shoot you if you stay behind it." - Captain Obvious
  
• "This one time, I killed 3 Dakka Wolves in my Dragon." - Liar
  
• "Just snipe them with goose waffles." - Fub Wub
  
• "Sometimes the enemy will have superior technology, and you can't cry about it. In the Korean War, the Russians were supplying North Korea with MiGs and I was stationed on a..." - Joseph Mallan
  
• "Robots." - Vassago Rain

Quoted for truth.

Made my day.

[Screech]

It runs out of ammo way too fast, many more effective uses of the 50 tons.