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[Carthoo]

No guys, I think you do not get the idea. PGI got pretty good numbers how we play throughout weekends....so they tested us. From my numbers, I can safely say that they were testing, if people will do the objectives. If we did, wed have at least 30% more points - and the chance to get 450k.

They got their answer - as I said, people are selfish and assault/ conquest are not rewarding enough, to make people stop "pew-pew" everything.

Sad thing is, that even if we had 50% on 300k and 450k would give us 70% on Dire Whale, wed still end up with the same score.

Conquest and Assaults need much better "background" (turrets, fortresses, RUNNING factories/ spaceports) instead of light fences around truck...

Not to mention bigger rewards for cap than for 250 dmg + kill. But also not too big, or lights would be running objectives, completely ignoring team - and fast meds probably too.

Edited by Carthoo, 19 October 2014 - 02:47 PM.

[KHETTI]

Almost at 45%, i will take it, thx very much PGI.
As for the stretch to get the last 5%, don't think its possible in the time left or worth it, either way its a win win.

[RalphVargr]

1900 Central, 0000 Z:

TOTAL POINTS: 249,415

[Spheroid]

200K to go.

[Deathlike]

Spheroid, on 19 October 2014 - 04:12 PM, said:

200K to go.

With 17 hours to go...

Edited by Deathlike, 19 October 2014 - 04:21 PM.

[CycKath]

White Bear 84, on 18 October 2014 - 11:15 PM, said:

Sucks to have the full phoenix AND full clan pack...

#firstworldproblem

That still leaves two extra Shadow Hawk variants you might not have, the SHD-2D and SHD-2K, which were released after the Phoenix pack dropped and weren't automatically included: http://mwomercs.com/...mc-and-c-bills/

[ImperialKnight]

Carthoo, on 19 October 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

No guys, I think you do not get the idea. PGI got pretty good numbers how we play throughout weekends....so they tested us. From my numbers, I can safely say that they were testing, if people will do the objectives. If we did, wed have at least 30% more points - and the chance to get 450k.

They got their answer - as I said, people are selfish and assault/ conquest are not rewarding enough, to make people stop "pew-pew" everything.

Sad thing is, that even if we had 50% on 300k and 450k would give us 70% on Dire Whale, wed still end up with the same score.

Conquest and Assaults need much better "background" (turrets, fortresses, RUNNING factories/ spaceports) instead of light fences around truck...

Not to mention bigger rewards for cap than for 250 dmg + kill. But also not too big, or lights would be running objectives, completely ignoring team - and fast meds probably too.

I wouldn't have needed to run a test to tell you that people are motivated by incentives and that extra 5% for 200k points is NOT going to motivate people to put in the extra effort to deviate from their usual playing patterns.

You would need something fairly drastic, like maybe a free King Crab standard variant to get people to start playing objectives.

Or just make playing primary objectives more rewarding

[RalphVargr]

2210 Central, 0010 Z:

TOTAL POINTS: 255,340

45% discount achieved.

[IllCaesar]

Lets not forget that many players don't even know about this. How many times have you played on the weekend in the past few months and you had encountered people in the game that didn't even know a challenge was going on? For me, its probably about every weekend. A lot of players don't pay attention to the slideshow on the client launch, they just click launch. There really needs to be some sort of way to give information to people in-game. My recommendation - a news ticker in the Mechlab and/or during lobby waiting.

[CycKath]

Perhaps, at least with this one being auto-opt in people are contributing even if they aren't capturing in Assault and Conquest.

[Alexander MacTaggart]

Would it be possible to get an early listing of Shadowhawk quirks for those of us who are considering picking up a chassis or two when the sale starts?

[Draven Darkshadow]

a rolling news ticker on the bottom or the top of the gui might be interesting but... it might invite a bit more spam that some ppl may not like.
have an optional bar might be ok.
a better way to pick up a group or even voice communication within game i think seems a bit more pressing issue.

[RalphVargr]

CycKath, on 19 October 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

Perhaps, at least with this one being auto-opt in people are contributing even if they aren't capturing in Assault and Conquest.

They are. It's also telling PGI about the effectiveness of marketing. Hawking the next weekend event should start on the preceding Tuesday.

[RalphVargr]

Hmmm. We're really going to run up 180,000+ points in the next day? After three days netted 250 K?

Camping time on cap points needs to be cut *in half*. That's one of the few ways to motivate players to change gameplay styles. Otherwise, the current preference for skirmish will continue. And double the rewards for capping.

[LT. HARDCASE]

I've been in it for a cheap SHD-5M. At this point it'll be 45% off, or about 4.5 million cbills. Then I can sell the XL275 for over 2 million cbills on top of that, since I already have multiple XL275s and XL280s.

So it's pretty much 2 million for a fully upgraded mech, not bad at all.

[Rhialto]

By playing from now on, you'll probably earn more than the 5% you would save if that was to happen and we all know it won't so play to grind and for fun!

[Johnny Reb]

Bront, on 19 October 2014 - 06:17 AM, said:

Doh. I need to check my math. (45% discount does not mean 45% pricing)

I keep seeing us ending near 350,000 and 360,000, so excending it a day we should be able to hit 450,000. It would make it exciting.


I still don't have a K. I'll try to get one.

Um.... 45% off is exactly off the price or as you say pricing. What are you taling about?

edit: price for most expensive crow is 11.2 million at 45% off is 6.16 million. Now the cheapest crow is 11.1 so that is at 6.105 million.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 19 October 2014 - 08:45 PM.

[drped]

I think the best way to get the points is to have everyone play skirmish only. We know that the vast majority of any match results in one side entirely being killed. So if we were all playing skirmish you would end up with up to 50% more points. (15 vs 10)
Even a draw still give you 10 points (5 points for each team). When was the last time you saw a draw?
The key really isn't the quality of the match (getting 20 vs 10 pts) but in the quantity of games. So after your mech dies, exit the match and get to the next match with a different mech.
I suspect that the average points per match for skirmish will still be higher than the other modes. PGI will have this data.
So my suggestion (in hindsight) would be to play only skirmish. Immediately start a new match when your mech dies.

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

I was in a game and my team had beaten the other on assault.

We then called to go for the cap. All my guys went to cap, but the other guys (in some other group) went and chased down the disconnect. Over coms he continued to chide us and mentioned that there were "more points for [him]". Sadly, that's part of the MW contingency. The type of people who continue to fire on a stripped mech even when assaults are chasing down the rest of the team. Ones that chase lights instead of keeping position. It's not my clan, but I've seen it in so many others... battle selfishness. Fighting for the individual glory instead of the global win.

[Defender Rococo Rockfowl]

Anyone else notice during this event that the Elo matchmaker thingy is broken?