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[Mister Blastman]

Instead of more 'mechs we desperately need twenty or so more maps and some diverse game modes like Living Legends/Battlefield 1942 ticket based, respawn based (in multiple selectable locations), more points on a map based gameplay.

The 'mechs need more sandboxes! Instead of packs why don't we get the above instead plus perhaps some single player (single player is offline only)? I'd be thrilled to say the least.

[Logan Hawke]

Belorion, on 21 October 2014 - 06:26 AM, said:

The community asked for this package.

Begged and pleaded might be more accurate

[Bishop Steiner]

Mister Blastman, on 21 October 2014 - 07:27 AM, said:

Instead of more 'mechs we desperately need twenty or so more maps and some diverse game modes like Living Legends/Battlefield 1942 ticket based, respawn based (in multiple selectable locations), more points on a map based gameplay.

The 'mechs need more sandboxes! Instead of packs why don't we get the above instead plus perhaps some single player (single player is offline only)? I'd be thrilled to say the least.

Yes. I think everyone knows and agrees with that.

But because a bunch of Timmies got butthurt that PGI was making nice and giving away free things, and not all of them qualified for ALL the free things, the masses cried for a Mech Pack to allow them to see the error of their ways.

So folks are shelling out 80 bucks to get Atlases and Kingcrabs they would be able to get for free, just to have spiffy paint and bike racks.

Y'all have been railing that PGI doesn't listen to the customers for 2 years.... they just did. Not their fault the customers are sometimes highly irrational.

[Moonlander]

I always have a harder time resisting the urge to buy a Mastery pack of something I don't have. I don't really mind if they release mechs often but I don't see this kind of thing being normal. I haven't been around long but my idea is that Clan Wave 2 was just to give Clanners a bit more option and the new IS Reinforcement Pack was asked for by the player base. It would be annoying tho, if every mech pack was for IS only or Clan only.

There's always going to be a reason to release new mechs because of revenue but also because the community is asking for it! We want all of those awesome mechs from our younger years! I've been playing TT for almost 20yrs and there are so many that I can't wait to see (but for the most part, I have the mechs I actually use in TT).

Thankfully, you don't have to always spend you hard earned money if you don't want to. You can just wait it out for Cbills. I wouldn't mind them shortening the time in-between the cash release and Cbill release. Not drastically but it would be a good move if those who aren't able to drop $80-$120-$240, had the chance to play the mechs while they're still somewhat new. Money may equal early mech access. But how many months MUST you have it before everyone else? Share the love and fun!

[Logan Hawke]

Quite right bishop.

May I just add that this sale goes beyond the projected release date of CW? CW is coming first or there's going to be a bunch of folks asking for refunds

Edited by Logan Hawke, 21 October 2014 - 07:34 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Logan Hawke, on 21 October 2014 - 07:33 AM, said:

Quite right bishop.

May I just add that this sale goes beyond the projected release date of CW? CW is coming first or there's going to be a bunch of folks asking for refunds

I know one way to minimize Refunds.....
Have the Mechs ®esitance versions tarted up in the House/Unit colors of the Concept Art- Almost no one is gonna give up the Tamar Tigers camo on the Zeus!

[Moonlander]

Logan Hawke, on 21 October 2014 - 07:33 AM, said:

Quite right bishop.

May I just add that this sale goes beyond the projected release date of CW? CW is coming first or there's going to be a bunch of folks asking for refunds

I think they've stated many times that these would be delayed a bit but most people didn't mind. The pack was mostly for IS purists who wanted the KC without having to buy a Clan pack. It would be silly for people to ask for refunds.

Edited by Moonlander, 21 October 2014 - 07:39 AM.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

Also, would point out, we the PLAYERS asked for this one.

Yea. This pretty much sums it up. Even though I think the amount of people asking for the package was... "small"... the methodology behind it was to enable players who only want inner sphere mechs could get the king crab mech as well.

They were going to do an IS mech pack, but it wouldn't have been unitl much later.

For the amount of time that's went by PGI has done a good job responding to the IS purist group.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

Also, would point out, we the PLAYERS asked for this one.

Yeah we keep asking for it and we keep buying them when they do come out so why shouldn't PGI keep it up?

I know for one, I am already ready for my next Clan pack as long as I get the Arctic Cheetah, Shadow Cat, Cauldron Born (Ebon Jaguar) and Executioner (or Turkina). Those are my absolutely favorites so they are a slam dunk sale if released together.

[Nick Makiaveli]

Felio, on 20 October 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

When I started playing, I wished I could have bought a Founder's pack.

I happily bought a Stormlord tier of Phoenix (Shadowhawk), then bought the reinforcement pack because I like mediums, then upgraded to Overlord (Battlemaster) for teh lulz.

Clan Wave 1 took me by surprise because I wasn't expecting another so soon. I held off until they said what we would actually be buying, then reluctantly bought four mechs -- three in a package and one a la carte.

It didn't take long for Wave 2 to show up, which also surprised me but then I realized it shouldn't have. And I'm just... it isn't even the money, even though the prices are outrageous. It's really that I'm just tired of it.

These things would be something to celebrate getting the chance to buy once in a long while (say, once a year), but when they are in constant or near-constant rotation, they aren't special anymore. They just seem like high-pressure sales.

Tired? Of what?

No, seriously, what exactly is it you are tired of?

Them asking for money? It's a business.

Of you spending money? Stop spending.

The ads? Stop reading them.


Not seeing the problem here, other than maybe jealousy over those who are buying them. FTR, I was like you...have to have the Shadowhawks so bought them. Then payday rolled around and I thoght it might a be good to upgrade since I already had Jagers Elited. Then payday rolled around and I thought I don't have any assaults, and the cheap Atlas seemed years away, so what the hey...it's only $20 bucks.

FTR, I've pre-ordered exactly ONE game. The Dead Linger and that mostly because they are a cool set of dudes (that and I love zombies!!) I've never spent $80 bucks on a single game (let's not talk about MMOs....I'm not proud of that part of my gaming history). So no I am not some elitist who is loaded. Wife, kid in private school, mortgage, work for the city. Not rich. Oh did I mention the wife is working on her Phd? Not cheap.

[Revis Volek]

elde, on 21 October 2014 - 01:29 AM, said:

Just like OP, I was a bit late to buy the Founders' pack. I wanted to support the revival of MechWarrior, so I bought MC quite a few times and the Overlord package. I was interested in the clan invasion in 2013, when in feb/march InnerSphereNews dropped clues on strange activity in the outskirts of the Inner Sphere, promising something to happen real soon.

Then nothing happened. PGI announced that they were abandoning the game clock. Then rewinding it one year. Then came the clan invasion package, and we all saw the prices. Then came the Wave 2. Now IS Resistance pack. I still remember the time before the packages, when we got a new mech every month, which was new and exciting. Then the players could buy it only for MC for the first weeks, and with CBills after that. Now we don't get any new mechs which haven't already been included in a package.

We still play the same boring game in three identical game modes on the same 11 maps. According to Niko, maps are a major resource drain, weakening the flow of income from MC sales. How long do they think the players are willing to buy into their new overpriced mech packs with real money, and still play the same stale game?

Community Warfare has been 90 days away for two years, and I'm starting to get sceptical that it doesn't make the Q4/2014 release the facelifted and IGP-separated PGI are leading us to believe.

These new packages make me sad, since I wanted this game to succeed, and have supported it both financially and by spreading the word. The packages, while bringing money to PGI to keep it going, seem to be all that is happening in the game.

I love how people keep bringing this up like its new news...everyone knows the current state, everyone is salty about no CW, everyone is wanting quirks and balanced play. Nothing you are saying has to do with this thread, helps anyone here, supports the game or even is anything NEW. Quit pushing the same BS 3 complaints and add something constructive....

The new IS pack Seems awesome BTW! I am so happy to get the Panther! Everyone said "no, bad hardpoints wont see it." well my wish came true! That and the Mist Lynx might be my new regular mechs!

Edited by DarthRevis, 21 October 2014 - 08:22 AM.

[Almond Brown]

The reality is simple. MWO currently has 182 mech chassis ala variants. BT has some 1200 Mech chassis ala variants. So as time marches on, more and more Mechs will become available, both Clan and IS.

In a game called "Mech"Warrior, why would anyone not want lots of Mechs ffs?

Perhaps PGI should have just made 10, like Maps. That would make those 10 very special right? omg!

[DaZur]

This thread is proof that it's impossible to placate the community...

[Xtrekker]

Walluh, on 21 October 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

Don't patronize me. I actually understand that developing takes a weeee bit of time when you're a small, F2P funded team, that just bought themselves out of a crappy publisher that was holding CW back by it's throat in the first place.

But, you know, if you think berating PGI and complaining because it isn't done will make it come out faster, then by all means, don't let me stop you.

They are a small F2P funded team that has cashed in on millions upon millions while claiming they've been working on game content for years. We've all been on the rollercoaster of PGI flat out falsifying their agenda up to the point of hitting release deadlines only to discover that they never even started (but continued to pump out the sales while dangling the carrot of those promises). IGP can't be blamed for all of that, but PGI is going to yet again heap all their troubles on another scapegoat and hope the rest of us buy into the latest reason to support them.

If you're really less than a month in MWO and already in here chastising the community for being exasperated or distrustful, I'm not sure what to tell you, other than please, by all means keep giving them money. Give them all of it. I totally support you in that endeavor. But I presume you're an alt, so...

I really hope they deliver on their latest promises, and I appreciate the more candid approach they've taken since the IGP breakup, but honestly their reputation was so far in the toilet that they didn't have a choice. And that reputation was BY THEIR OWN HAND, not IGP's. I'm not simply berating PGI, I'm showcasing their history to date. I'm also not saying that they aren't being truthful this time. However, given that history, if anything was wrong would you expect them to tell us the truth about it?

If people get enjoyment out of what is currently offered and feel that throwing money into this vacuum is going to reward them TODAY, that's great. I occasionally do it too. But they shouldn't expect anything TOMORROW. Because PGI.

That said, I have no problem with them releasing another pack. I won't be buying it though. They have to show something other than pointing the finger at someone else and sheepishly acknowledging their raging community before I'll believe they've gotten things under control or that the servers will stay up beyond next month.

[Joseph Mallan]

Felio, on 20 October 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

When I started playing, I wished I could have bought a Founder's pack.

I happily bought a Stormlord tier of Phoenix (Shadowhawk), then bought the reinforcement pack because I like mediums, then upgraded to Overlord (Battlemaster) for teh lulz.

Clan Wave 1 took me by surprise because I wasn't expecting another so soon. I held off until they said what we would actually be buying, then reluctantly bought four mechs -- three in a package and one a la carte.

It didn't take long for Wave 2 to show up, which also surprised me but then I realized it shouldn't have. And I'm just... it isn't even the money, even though the prices are outrageous. It's really that I'm just tired of it.

These things would be something to celebrate getting the chance to buy once in a long while (say, once a year), but when they are in constant or near-constant rotation, they aren't special anymore. They just seem like high-pressure sales.

At this time frame there are 95 different chassis most with around 3-5 variants.

[Logan Hawke]

Moonlander, on 21 October 2014 - 07:39 AM, said:

I think they've stated many times that these would be delayed a bit but most people didn't mind. The pack was mostly for IS purists who wanted the KC without having to buy a Clan pack. It would be silly for people to ask for refunds.

I meant my comment as a bit of assurance for the angry folks. 'CW comes first' basically.