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[KraftySOT]

Cavale, on 20 October 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

He's making sweeping changes to the way it works, and I'm very pleased with this.

There will most likely be lots of small tweaks to the system after implementation, but I look forwards to this.

I look forward to MOAR SPIDER in the future.

[DarthPeanut]

Yep, he just started updating.

Interesting change and I have to say I like it. Looks like a quirk for a weapons group and then a stacker quirk for more specific weapon in that group they feel fit the role of the mech.

[KamikazeRat]

DarthPeanut, on 20 October 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

Yep, he just started updating.

did he start...or just...do the two hunchbacks. and stop again?

[KraftySOT]

Yeah is he just doing two examples I thought we got a full list or is it somewhere other than the roadmap?

[Rear Admiral Tier 6]

BOOOOOOOO we want the whole list dammit

[DarkonFullPower]

KamikazeRat, on 20 October 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

did he start...or just...do the two hunchbacks. and stop again?

No. I was mislead by the title too. He's only announcing the changes to the Quirk pass, and the new pack. (http://mwomercs.com/...esistance-pack/)

Nothing else is happening today. I thought we were getting the full list of quirks too.

T_________T

Edited by DarkonFullPower, 20 October 2014 - 04:09 PM.

[KraftySOT]

DarkonFullPower, on 20 October 2014 - 04:08 PM, said:

No. I was mislead by the title too. He's only announcing the changes to the Quirk pass, and the new pack. (http://mwomercs.com/...esistance-pack/)

Nothing else is happening today. We are not getting the full list of quirks today.

Ah lame.

[Gelion]

You guys do realise the quirks are covering up systemic problems rather than *balancing*.

[KamikazeRat]

eh, cheer up, this is a huge improvement. alot more buffs to general customization, but still benefits the builds that the mech feels best with. we just won't know the whole scope until later

also...NEW MECHS!!!! who isn't excited about that?

freaking panther guys....the muddy fluffing panther....

[ImperialKnight]

AlphaToaster, on 20 October 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

I don't understand when they said that ECM or JJ count as a quirk, but then give the HGN-733C 2 quirks for a Teir-2 mech.

The Jester (Teir3) got 2 quirks and we were reminded it has JJ for the 3rd, but for the HGN-733C, I see 2 quirks listed, but doesn't it also have JJ?

/confused

I also thought the quirks were going to help balance the mechs more with the Teir 1 mechs. So rather than being incentive to try to get people to diversify the builds, we should be promoting the builds that do work.

For the Jester for example, if it only gets 2 quirks, I would have suggested more like, increased jump thrust/increased jump height, since it only has 2 JJ. I don't really see many jesters, and the ones I do don't run LL...They run med lasers, ppc or in some cases LPL's, with some AMS.

The quirks should enhance what makes a mech good rather than try to force diversity onto a chasis that isn't typically configured that way in practice. I see they favor the stock loadouts, but many of the stock loadouts aren't competitive. (stock ember anyone?) So why give quirks to a configuration that's not competitive, under the guise of balance?

Because the Hoverlander currently do not have JJs, they have blue flame effect generators

[DarkonFullPower]

Gelion, on 20 October 2014 - 04:11 PM, said:

You guys do realise the quirks are covering up systemic problems rather than *balancing*.

Wrong topic? This topic is about getting the list, not "Is quirks a good/bad thing?"

KamikazeRat, on 20 October 2014 - 04:11 PM, said:

eh, cheer up, this is a huge improvement. alot more buffs to general customization, but still benefits the builds that the mech feels best with. we just won't know the whole scope until later

also...NEW MECHS!!!! who isn't excited about that?

freaking panther guys....the muddy fluffing panther....

The news IS awesome. It's just not the news we were rioting for.

Edited by DarkonFullPower, 20 October 2014 - 04:16 PM.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

knightsljx, on 20 October 2014 - 04:12 PM, said:

Because the Hoverlander currently do not have JJs, they have blue flame effect generators

The Jester arguably falls into that category now as well. With the JJ nerfs, it's height was reduced considerably. Took mine out for a spin the other day and was hard enough not to use all my fuel just to go up a small ridge on Forest Colony. Worse than the Hoverlander was before the nerfs.

[Rhaegor]

I didn't see any quirk news, what am I missing? Where is the quirk update?

[Burktross]

I'm am pleased with Russ's news.
Keep it this way.
Do it, please.

[DarkonFullPower]

Rhaegor, on 20 October 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

I didn't see any quirk news, what am I missing? Where is the quirk update?

http://mwomercs.com/...38#entry3835438

TL;DR: Mechs still have weapon specific buffs, but using a different weapon of the same type will give you half of the buff.

Edited by DarkonFullPower, 20 October 2014 - 04:23 PM.

[Scratx]

Rhaegor, on 20 October 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

I didn't see any quirk news, what am I missing? Where is the quirk update?

here : http://mwomercs.com/...38#entry3835438

Basically, specific weapon quirks are going to give half their bonuses to the general category. So a hunchie AC20 quirk gives half the bonus to all other ballistics, for example.

[DarthPeanut]

The update was not the whole list like I was hoping but it appears to be for the better. I like the way the revised quirk system will work.

So much happening in the near future, it is exciting!

Edited by DarthPeanut, 20 October 2014 - 04:31 PM.

[Rhaegor]

Great thinking on PGI/Russ's part. They are trying to make both camps happy. General and specific bonuses.

[KamikazeRat]

DarkonFullPower, on 20 October 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

Wrong topic? This topic is about getting the list, not "Is quirks a good/bad thing?"



The news IS awesome. It's just not the news we were rioting for.

OH, forgive me (flips a table and smashes a window) NEW TV!!!

[Kanatta Jing]

So if Tier 5 is 25% and Tier 4 is 20% then Tier 1 is 5%?

Anyway, I look forward to the return of Atlas pilots that rock the AC/20.