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[Elizander]

Here are 8 screenshots of my last 8 matches (Premium + 30% cbill invasion bonus included + 300ms average latency) in my Kitfox that doesn't even have all basics filled out. The rewards are nowhere near what I got for doing the same thing before which was protecting the assaults/main group with ECM, tagging and dealing a bit of damage here and there when I can. I barely did any fighting outside of the rare shot of opportunity or when we're cleaning up and I just focused on positioning myself to cover the most with ECM and ferry back the occasional stray mech that's getting peltered by missiles.

Again, I've played this way before the changes and I barely get 90k because most of the previous system required damage and kills and lots of it. Now I barely even shoot my laser and we win because everyone is putting 20 tons of LRMs on their mech and with proper ECM coverage that's all just deadweight making the enemy mechs very weak. Oh, the triple AMS with 8000 rounds and AMS Overload also helps.

Here's the typical start of a game as a support kitfox - surrounded by 4 assaults.



(Disclaimer: I suck at this game and I don't play lights)

PS:

Look at my gorgeous damage numbers.

Edited by Elizander, 24 October 2014 - 01:47 AM.

[Mirkk Defwode]

I think the awards for TAG and Narc are currently a little too generous causing a lot of numbers like this for mechs that have those equipped. I haven't been able to get those numbers in any mech that isn't using those through normal combat...Well except when i get like 3 to 5 kills, which always makes me feel like a vulture scavenging off the weakened enemies after some allies do a good bulk of the work.

[Joseph Mallan]

I think you got paid properly for putting your light in harms way to Narc the enemy for your team.

[Redshift2k5]

Mirkk Defwode, on 23 October 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

I think the awards for TAG and Narc are currently a little too generous causing a lot of numbers like this for mechs that have those equipped. I haven't been able to get those numbers in any mech that isn't using those through normal combat...Well except when i get like 3 to 5 kills, which always makes me feel like a vulture scavenging off the weakened enemies after some allies do a good bulk of the work.

I've gotten plenty of matches with similar numbers, nearly 300k, without using NARC or TAG

[Joseph Mallan]

Redshift2k5, on 23 October 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:

I've gotten plenty of matches with similar numbers, nearly 300k, without using NARC or TAG

In my case it was 2 or 3 Matches but I still do fine right now without Narc/TAG

[DEMAX51]

Mirkk Defwode, on 23 October 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

I think the awards for TAG and Narc are currently a little too generous causing a lot of numbers like this for mechs that have those equipped. I haven't been able to get those numbers in any mech that isn't using those through normal combat...Well except when i get like 3 to 5 kills, which always makes me feel like a vulture scavenging off the weakened enemies after some allies do a good bulk of the work.

The TAG damage reward was bugged, but it got addressed in the hotfix today.

[AlmightyAeng]

Redshift2k5, on 23 October 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:

I've gotten plenty of matches with similar numbers, nearly 300k, without using NARC or TAG

With the new system, or previously?

[Joseph Mallan]

Ghost Badger, on 23 October 2014 - 10:18 AM, said:

With the new system, or previously?

New and some previous.

[bluepiglet]

Redshift2k5, on 23 October 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:

I've gotten plenty of matches with similar numbers, nearly 300k, without using NARC or TAG

I was in your lance and witnessed you rocking today, playing a Spider with a single small laser, you killed the whole enemy team so fast the rest of the team didn't have enough time to leave the base!!

[Joseph Mallan]

bluepiglet, on 23 October 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

I was in your lance and witnessed you rocking today, playing a Spider with a single small laser, you killed the whole enemy team so fast the rest of the team didn't have enough time to leave the base!!

Only a slight exaggeration of Reds prowess.

[C E Dwyer]

Now where is that whiny put it back, I work my ass off for nothing now thread gone.


Seems it pays to be a lounge Lizard.

I have to say, its taking some getting used to, but I really like this new System

[Mawai]

You also have premium and a 30% bonus running. Without those the rewards don't look nearly as impressive. That 84,000 for a loss starts to look more like 50k or less. Th 130k game is probably more like 75k.

Premium and mech bonuses go a long way to padding cbill returns.

[Lily from animove]

Joseph Mallan, on 23 October 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

I think you got paid properly for putting your light in harms way to Narc the enemy for your team.

the issue is, IF you just tag what is going on in the brawl you also get all these rewards without being much credit to the team. you are just a guy with a laserpointer.

brb got an epic match showing whats wrong with the current score

[Elizander]

Mawai, on 23 October 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

You also have premium and a 30% bonus running. Without those the rewards don't look nearly as impressive. That 84,000 for a loss starts to look more like 50k or less. Th 130k game is probably more like 75k.

Premium and mech bonuses go a long way to padding cbill returns.

You don't seem to understand. I have always run Premium and Hero mechs. Before this change my rewards for playing the way I do now were under 90k for winning with premium and hero mechs.

[AlmightyAeng]

Lily from animove, on 23 October 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

the issue is, IF you just tag what is going on in the brawl you also get all these rewards without being much credit to the team. you are just a guy with a laserpointer.

brb got an epic match showing whats wrong with the current score

I 100% disagree. When I run with my guys, do you know how much BETTER it is to brawl a target that's getting slammed with missiles? Half the time he can barely concentrate on where he's going, much less return fire effectively.

I've been calling for tagged/narced missile support on my targets LONG before they implemented the reward system.

Even if they have no missiles, TAG will reveal ECM. Invaluable. Knowledge is power man.

[bluepiglet]

Mawai, on 23 October 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

You also have premium and a 30% bonus running. Without those the rewards don't look nearly as impressive. That 84,000 for a loss starts to look more like 50k or less. Th 130k game is probably more like 75k.

Premium and mech bonuses go a long way to padding cbill returns.

He convieneintly put the scroll bar in the mid to hide the bonus, without 30% for the Hero mech and 50% premium. What he actually recieved was:

1st round: 107,060 CB

2nd round: 124,736 CB

3rd round: 64,900 CB

4th round: 90,754 CB

5th round: 44,455 CB

6th round: 72,580 CB

7th round: 155,801 CB

8th round: 157,005 CB

Total: 817,291 CB for 8 games without bonus

Average: 102,161 CB each game

LOOL, not that impressing no more?

Edited by bluepiglet, 23 October 2014 - 11:13 AM.

[Greenjulius]

DEMAX51, on 23 October 2014 - 10:12 AM, said:

The TAG damage reward was bugged, but it got addressed in the hotfix today.

I was afraid it was a bug. Now tag won't be worthwhile unless you are running a LRM boat, or are supporting a teammate in one. The c-bill income was high, yes, but so is the likelihood that you will die in a light when tagging.

I was really happy with the c-bill boosts for lights, but now I can see they were only a mistake. Lights are going right back to sucking.

[Elizander]

bluepiglet, on 23 October 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

He convieneintly put the scroll bar in the mid to hide the bonus, without 30% for the Hero mech and 50% premium. What he actually recieved was:

1st round: 107,060 CB

2nd round: 124,736 CB

3rd round: 64,900 CB

4th round: 90,754 CB

5th round: 44,455 CB

6th round: 72,580 CB

7th round: 155,801 CB

8th round: 157,005 CB

Total: 817,291 CB for 8 games without bonus

Average: 102,161 CB each game

LOOL, not that impressing no more?

Read the post, I said I had premium and hero. And for sticking with the group and dealing 200 damage on a light? Quite impressed with the change. Let me know how much you'd get before with sub 200 damage.

[Tuefel Hunden]

Yup, the new reward system is the pits.

[AlmightyAeng]

Pig, you've had 2-3 days with the new rewards, right? Take a look at your stats under your profile. What's your current average for C-Bills per match? It'll pull from everything before the new changes.