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[Skoll]

That's sort of like saying you prefer the newer, more arcadey Rainbow Six games to the older, more realistic and tactical Red Storm Rainbow Six games.

[Elucid Ward]

firebladedragon, on 02 November 2011 - 01:31 AM, said:

As a player of both MA1 and MA2. I would love to see MA3 come out. or I would like them to port the MAO onto xbox 360.

I played, and finished them both. And as BT based games, they were freakin' terrible. No on both counts.

[rag tag]

Ugh, no more MechAssault... that play style just didn't fit the BattleTech/MechWarrior feel. It felt like Mario Kart with BattleMechs. That actually sounds cool in theory, but it was bad in practice.

[Suko]

red beard, on 31 October 2011 - 07:50 PM, said:

Whether you liked the game or not, numbers don't lie. Mech Assault broke sales records and it did so FAST! Players loved it and we should start making some noise for MA3 NOW! If they are into the ONLINE only thing, thats great, because MA was not too much for single player anyway. Lets get this ball rolling.

I do love how the community is asking for a traditional MW game or nothing at all. I don't know why they've got so much hate for Mech Assault. I have liked nearly every Battletech related game since the release of MW2. That includes the SNES Mechwarrior and Mech Assault. Perhaps I'm just more open-minded when it comes to the games I play, I dunno. But I know that, regardless of what PGI does with this game, I will probably love it simply for being Battletech.

Edited by shadowvfx, 04 November 2011 - 04:23 PM.

[Red Beard]

rag-tag, on 04 November 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

that play style just didn't fit the BattleTech feel. That actually sounds cool in theory, but it was bad in practice.

Well, MW attracted thousands upon thousands of players because of it's play style. It was unique and MOST players loved it, just like other BT games. Many players had never played a MW game before, and after playing it, were drawn in to the universe as a whole. The exact same can be said of MA. Most of the players had never even heard of BT. They just loved the game and then were drawn in to the universe. It is unfair to say that the playstyle does not FIT BT. It does, it is just not your cup of tea. There are MILLIONS of players that agree with me. MA was released on ONLY ONE console, and it sold over 2 million. MW had been released on multiple platforms, and I would challenge anyone to come up with even a single MW title that surpassed those numbers in the same short period of time(having gone platinum in less than a years time). The fellas that think that MA does not BELONG in the BT universe are in the EXTREME minority. It's ok if you don't like it, but there is no place for anyone to try to suggest that it doesn't work. It DOES and it sold millions. If PGI were really interested in making a hit game with huge sales potential, they would consider another MA game. MW is BT's SIMULATOR game, Mech Commander is the real time strategy game, and MA is the straight up action game. Nobody told anyone that you have to like MA to be a BT fan, but it is folly to think that it doesn't belong. MA carved it's BT niche in a stronger fashion than ANY OTHER BT game yet.

[Red Beard]

firebladedragon, on 02 November 2011 - 01:31 AM, said:

As a player of both MA1 and MA2. I would love to see MA3 come out. or I would like them to port the MAO onto xbox 360.

I would have been happy to have had MS make MA1 backward compatible. That said, it would not take much to put together a new MA game. It certainly is not as complex as MW in terms of needing to cater to the non-gaming community functions. That, and MA had some really kickin' weapons that just would not work with the semi-limited functions of a kb/m combo.

[StrangeTaco]

red beard, on 04 November 2011 - 05:44 PM, said:

It is unfair to say that the playstyle does not FIT BT. It does, it is just not your cup of tea.

When he said battletech feel I believe he was referring to the feel of the table-top game and other MW titles, where the focus was more on a "realistic" sci-fi simulation. I've felt MA and MW can be compared like Battlefield and Call of Duty. Both games are fine in their own rights, one is more of an arcade style, the other is attempting to portray a more realistic style. I'm not saying one is better or worse than the other, just that the play and the design angle are very different from the original Battletech feel and play.

[Venkman]

No thanks.

But if you want to make a new MechCommander, then we'll talk.

[Jack Gallows]

For the love of Kerensky, someone please destroy Mech Assault, any fan of it, and anyone with the idea of ever bringing it back.

It's horrid and so dumbed down it's not funny. Mechwarrior/Battletech is so much more then that atrocious nightmare.

[Red Beard]

Elucid Ward, on 02 November 2011 - 02:11 AM, said:

I played, and finished them both. And as BT based games, they were freakin' terrible. No on both counts.

Sounds like maybe you played the SP portions...ugh. Can't blame you for your opinion. Not great. MP was a whole other world.

[Red Beard]

StrangeTaco, on 04 November 2011 - 05:55 PM, said:

When he said battletech feel I believe he was referring to the feel of the table-top game and other MW titles, where the focus was more on a "realistic" sci-fi simulation. I've felt MA and MW can be compared like Battlefield and Call of Duty. Both games are fine in their own rights, one is more of an arcade style, the other is attempting to portray a more realistic style. I'm not saying one is better or worse than the other, just that the play and the design angle are very different from the original Battletech feel and play.

Fair. Mech Commander was a whole new "feel" for BT when it was rolled out, and it was very well received. MA is the expression of fans desire for an arcade/action based game using the BT universe as it's base. If that were not the case, it would never have been made.

[Red Beard]

Jack Gallows, on 04 November 2011 - 06:24 PM, said:

For the love of Kerensky, someone please destroy Mech Assault, any fan of it, and anyone with the idea of ever bringing it back.

It's horrid and so dumbed down it's not funny. Mechwarrior/Battletech is so much more then that atrocious nightmare.

Pardon me? Are you suggesting that somebody DESTROY me because I love MA? Troll, obviously. Go, troll, go away.

[Red Beard]

Jack Gallows, on 04 November 2011 - 06:24 PM, said:

For the love of Kerensky,

It just made your wee little beeny spin extra to say that. Admit it. You have been waiting 2 years to say that.

Edited by red beard, 04 November 2011 - 08:49 PM.

[Lorebot]

I can't lie, I enjoyed the Mechassault games. But they didn't feel like Mechwarrior to me, and they certainly weren't Battletech.
They were more like a replacement for the Armored Core franchise.

I would probably buy another Mechassault game if it were made, but it's not what I really want. I want a Battletech sim, I want the Mechwarrior of old to come back in modern graphics and style and punch me in the gut with nostalgia. I want a reason to hook up my joystick with throttle and footpedals again...I want to go all crazy fanboy and build myself a sim pod with a heater in it that responds to the heat levels of my mech in the game...I want to be a Mechwarrior again!

[gregsolidus]

This is going to get locked soon.I just know it.

[Neozero]

As a long time Mechwarrior and tabletop player it was really hard for me to pick up the controls and play MA or MA2. Eventually I did break down and from a stand point of pure entertainment MA is more for the mindless smash and grab type play that thrives in the console world. Yes I have serious issues with MA and MA2 but I will not slight them on there ability to provide a simple and enjoyable mech combat on the console. This however does not allow me to overlook the liberties the game took with the lore and the every mechwarrior is also in battlearmor.

Now that said MW is a far superior model for PC online play, the level of control depth and required reflexes to properly engage your mech can be simulated with greater degree of realism. Multiaxis joysticks and gaming pads/keyboards will always provide more options for the player to immerse themselves into the experience and come as close to piloting a mech any of us will get in this lifetime short of doing the BT pods.

[tyrone dunkirk]

Mechassualt was a perverse spin off of Battletech and I barely consider it to be canon.

Obvious troll IS obvious!

[Phades]

red beard, on 01 November 2011 - 11:39 PM, said:

Just wait till more MA guys show up. I mean, you skill-free PC hacks won't know what hit you after playing a game with a trained MA player. Console players are, by virtue of what they play, quantum leaps beyond PC players in skill. No arguement, no contest. PC players tend to be stuffy headed overthinkers with terrible reaction timing and a general lack of good "video game sense". I have noticed over the years that most PC gamers tend to need "time to figure things out" and want to "enjoy the complexity of the game". Hahahahaha. Cannot wait for those first few games where I stomp some PC gamers guts out. It won't matter what mech I am in or what tam I am on. My skill, as a console player makes me, at the least, ten times the gamer most of you PC guys would only hope to be. You can try and argue, but as I have always said, the proof is in the pudding. You can make an argument that this is a totally different type of game, but a true video game player is able to adapt to any kind of game, and, being on the PC, a lesser format for games, will only add to my overwhelming advantage. It's almost unfair...

Obvious troll is obvious. Also, aim assists permeate throughout console games, while players on the PC have to write the code to make the game do that for them meaning the base game relies solely on the player's skill and all others are hackers without skill. Keyboard and mouse has better command input sensitivity and as previously mentioned Microsoft chose to not release cross play multi-platforms due to the vast differences in wins between the console kids and the pc enthusiasts.

[KHETTI]

Actually i've come across a few MA fans that were attracted to the Mechwarrior Free release, and boy they sucked badly, no idea how to build a decent config, cryed when legged repeatedly and completely devoid of decent tactics.
I personally kinda liked MA for what it was, but at best it was only loosely related to its bigger better brother( ), with no mechlab it had limited tactical scope, knowing exactly what each chassis offered in the way of firepower held no surprises.
In Mechwarrior you can never be certain what a chassis will contain weapons wise, and how the pilot plans to use them, couple this with larger maps, a much greater selection of map types and a player base thats been currently playing for the best part of ten years.

I think fans of MA will inevitably fit it, but they are in for a major shock when they come up against the cream of the Mechwarrior leagues.

Edited by †KHETTI†™, 05 November 2011 - 09:25 AM.

[Pht]

red beard, on 31 October 2011 - 07:50 PM, said:

Whether you liked the game or not, numbers don't lie. Mech Assault broke sales records and it did so FAST! Players loved it and we should start making some noise for MA3 NOW! If they are into the ONLINE only thing, thats great, because MA was not too much for single player anyway. Lets get this ball rolling.

NO.