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[0bsidion]

Reno Blade, on 29 October 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

first rule:
If you have still armor (front and back for torso) after the damage is applied, there is no roll for a crit.

second rule:
if the armor is breached, or you don't have any armor, the internal structure is damaged by the remaining damage and there will be a roll if there is a crit (1x, 2x or 3x).

third rule:
critical damage depends on the weapon damage, not the actual inflicted damage.
An AC20 piercing a section with 19 armor will inflict 1 damage to internal structure
if there is a crit, it will deal 20 points of damage to the crit item (like a Gauss with 3 health, or a Ammo with 10 health, or even a shoulder actuator for 10 health)
If you have crit an item, then 15% of that damage is also dealt to internal structure.
crit chance is higher for LBX, MG, Flamer and clan targeting computer.

fourth rule:
if a section (arm, leg or side torso) is destroyed and you hit the section, you will only transfere 50% of the damage to the next inward section
going from leg/arm to side torso and then towards center torso.
Hit to a destroyed arm will transfer 50% to a torso and if that is destroyed, the damage is further reduced by half to deal 25% to the Center torso.

note: each tick of a laser (roughly every 0.2 damage), each pellet of LBX or UAC, Missile or MG/Flamer will be rolled seperately for crits.

More information about crits can be found here:
http://mwomercs.com/...-a-brief-guide/

edit:
from the linked thread:

You can spout all the rules from some other guy on the forum all you want, but the fact remains in my personal experience you can lose a weapon before your armor in that section is gone, especially in an Atlas, and if you read the posts of other Atlas pilots in this very thread you'll see I'm not the only one, and you can witness this yourself if you do like I said. I've also lost my LRM rack on my Direwolf on more than one occasion with an only slightly damaged torso.

[Bilbo]

0bsidion, on 29 October 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

You can spout all the rules from some other guy on the forum all you want, but the fact remains in my personal experience you can lose a weapon before your armor in that section is gone, especially in an Atlas, and if you read the posts of other Atlas pilots in this very thread you'll see I'm not the only one, and you can witness this yourself if you do like I said. I've also lost my LRM rack on my Direwolf on more than one occasion with an only slightly damaged torso.

I play a lot of games in an Atlas and I've never lost a weapon without first losing the armor protecting it.

[Mcgral18]

0bsidion, on 29 October 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

You can spout all the rules from some other guy on the forum all you want, but the fact remains in my personal experience you can lose a weapon before your armor in that section is gone, especially in an Atlas, and if you read the posts of other Atlas pilots in this very thread you'll see I'm not the only one, and you can witness this yourself if you do like I said. I've also lost my LRM rack on my Direwolf on more than one occasion with an only slightly damaged torso.

That's one thing that happens if you overheat; on no other occasion will that happen.

Edited by Mcgral18, 29 October 2014 - 09:31 AM.

[Sarlic]

MadMaxMKII, on 29 October 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:

After more than 6000 games I was wondering how exactly the armor value is working. I just had a game in my Atlas where my unharmed right torso whith gauss was destroyed with a single alpha of a hunchback with ac20 and 3 ML. the torso has 76 armor, the alpha causes 35 dmg, how could that happen? i thought befor weapons will be destroyed, the armor must have been gone.

Wait for the quirks.

The main problem is the weak structure, correct it takes a few hits to take a ST out.

You must shield your ST at all times. That's the key for losing both your arms before any of your ST is lost.

When you lose both your arms, you did the right thing.

Edited by Sarlic, 29 October 2014 - 09:26 AM.

[Reno Blade]

0bsidion, on 29 October 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

You can spout all the rules from some other guy on the forum all you want, but the fact remains in my personal experience you can lose a weapon before your armor in that section is gone, especially in an Atlas, and if you read the posts of other Atlas pilots in this very thread you'll see I'm not the only one, and you can witness this yourself if you do like I said. I've also lost my LRM rack on my Direwolf on more than one occasion with an only slightly damaged torso.

Should you lose a weapon without the armor beeing gone or yourself overriding shutdown, please try to get this in a video or picture and create a ticket.
The system should never give you a crit if you still have armor.
With "just" the description from atlas pilots that they lost a weapon before armor was breached, the devs can't see the bug in action.
It is a bug If this is happening and we require you and other atlas pilots to collect matches (video, picture, time of match) to create a basis for investigating the issue.