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[KuroNyra]

Has you can see, the Hammerhand is very close to the Warhammer and could in a way replace it.
After all, the game is considered apocryphal and is a sort of "alternate reality", since we can't have Harmony Gold mech.
Why not using very close design. (The Hammerhand was actually one of the design who made the warhammer possible in the lore.)

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The second exclusive Federated Suns BattleMech, the Hammerhands was developed in 2475 after a decade reviewing the performance and complaints received about the earlier BattleAxe. Little more than a heavier and slower version of the BattleAxe, the design received its name based on the impressive weapons carried in each arm, serving to trigger the Federated Suns' seeming love affair with autocannons. Much like its sibling design, the Hammerhands went on to influence and be outdone by the immensely popular Warhammer, causing it to fade into history, all but forgotten.^[3]

In MW:O we could still have Warhammer in working order. And with a little redeisgn, get a Warhammer, but only the name could be different. Thus, not really problem for the lawsuit against the name.



Just an idea, but I want to know if you have considered this.

[Metus regem]

The problem for the War Hammer is the WHM-6 family, it's not the name, it's the look as it looks too much like the Robotech Excalibur or Macross Tomahawk.

For example, the War Hammer WHM-8 family is fine, see TRO Phoenix Project page 46/47 for what I mean.

That being said, if they were to use the Hammer Hands as the basis for a new War Hammer WHM-6 family, then I think it could just squeeze by, the Excalibur/Tomahawk issue.

[KuroNyra]

Metus regem, on 31 October 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

The problem for the War Hammer is the WHM-6 family, it's not the name, it's the look as it looks too much like the Robotech Excalibur or Macross Tomahawk.

For example, the War Hammer WHM-8 family is fine, see TRO Phoenix Project page 46/47 for what I mean.

That being said, if they were to use the Hammer Hands as the basis for a new War Hammer WHM-6 family, then I think it could just squeeze by, the Excalibur/Tomahawk issue.

So it's some variant of the warhammer who cause problem quiaff?

Hum... What if theses variant are simply not put in the game? Could Harmony Gold still try a d!ck move?

[Vassago Rain]

They've repeatedly said they have no interest in approaching anything even remotely related to macross robots.

We got dougrams instead.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Metus regem, on 31 October 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

The problem for the War Hammer is the WHM-6 family, it's not the name, it's the look as it looks too much like the Robotech Excalibur or Macross Tomahawk.

For example, the War Hammer WHM-8 family is fine, see TRO Phoenix Project page 46/47 for what I mean.

That being said, if they were to use the Hammer Hands as the basis for a new War Hammer WHM-6 family, then I think it could just squeeze by, the Excalibur/Tomahawk issue.

But thats not a warhammer.....its......something else......

[KuroNyra]

Vassago Rain, on 31 October 2014 - 09:06 AM, said:

They've repeatedly said they have no interest in approaching anything even remotely related to macross robots.

We got dougrams instead.

The shoot their own feet by doing that. é_é

It would be like a MW game with the clan, but with not Dire Wolf, Timber Wolf or Summoner....

[Elizander]

It's pretty slow (3/5/0 for a 75 ton mech) but stock should be alright even with SHS. They might have to bump up the engine cap or quirk it like an assault.

• 2xAutocannon/10s
  
• 2x Medium Lasers
  
• 1x SRM-6

Wait...

I see what you did there!

It's a 75 ton IS Dual Gauss Rifle platform! Let's get it!

Edited by Elizander, 31 October 2014 - 09:15 AM.

[KuroNyra]

LordKnightFandragon, on 31 October 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

But thats not a warhammer.....its......something else......

It is the closest thing we can have.
Beside, if you compare the original centurion to the one we have now.

Don't you think they could come up with something near identical?

Elizander, on 31 October 2014 - 09:10 AM, said:

It's pretty slow (3/5/0 for a 75 ton mech) but stock should be alright even with SHS. They might have to bump up the engine cap or quirk it like an assault.

• 2xAutocannon/10s
  
• 2x Medium Lasers
  
• 1x SRM-6

They already have by the past made new variant for some mech.
They could create new variant for the HMH.

Edited by KuroNyra, 31 October 2014 - 09:14 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Elizander, on 31 October 2014 - 09:10 AM, said:

It's pretty slow (3/5/0 for a 75 ton mech) but stock should be alright even with SHS. They might have to bump up the engine cap or quirk it like an assault.

• 2xAutocannon/10s
  
• 2x Medium Lasers
  
• 1x SRM-6

Wait...

I see what you did there!

It's a 75 ton IS Dual Gauss Rifle platform! Let's get it!

Its not 75 tons but Dual Gauss

[Alek Ituin]

KuroNyra, on 31 October 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

The shoot their own feet by doing that. é_é

It would be like a MW game with the clan, but with not Dire Wolf, Timber Wolf or Summoner....

Well, it's like this:

They put in the Warhammer, they'd get sued in to the ground, and MWO disappears within months. Maybe years if PGI can hold on.

Harmony Gold are a bunch of sue-happy arsewipes that're too stupid to do anything with the IP's (or sections thereof) that they're sitting on. So if the options are "Clans minus iconic Clan mechs" or "Clans plus iconic Clan mechs and then getting sued to death and losing the game entirely", I'd choose the former with a smile on my face.

[LordKnightFandragon]

KuroNyra, on 31 October 2014 - 09:13 AM, said:

It is the closest thing we can have.
Beside, if you compare the original centurion to the one we have now.

Don't you think they could come up with something near identical?

I kinda like the PGI centurion a little better.



But it keeps the same basic idea..outside of making it 20 feet wider...

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 31 October 2014 - 09:20 AM.

[Elizander]

Joseph Mallan, on 31 October 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Its not 75 tons but Dual Gauss

Sarna is wrong? D:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hammerhands

[KuroNyra]

Alek Ituin, on 31 October 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Well, it's like this:

They put in the Warhammer, they'd get sued in to the ground, and MWO disappears within months. Maybe years if PGI can hold on.

Harmony Gold are a bunch of sue-happy arsewipes that're too stupid to do anything with the IP's (or sections thereof) that they're sitting on. So if the options are "Clans minus iconic Clan mechs" or "Clans plus iconic Clan mechs and then getting sued to death and losing the game entirely", I'd choose the former with a smile on my face.

That's why I'm proposing the hammerhand has a sort of replacement since it has a extremely similar look.

[KuroNyra]

LordKnightFandragon, on 31 October 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

I kinda like the PGI centurion a little better.



But it keeps the same basic idea..outside of making it 20 feet wider...

What I was saying is that PGI manage to make an awesome looking centurion, while keeping the element of the original.



They could do the same for the Hammerhand, and create a Hammerhand looking almost like a Warhammer. And being pure unaltered badass.

[Archon]

Listen up PGI, for the Hammerhands, I would pay ALL THE MONIES!!!

[Joseph Mallan]

Elizander, on 31 October 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

Sarna is wrong? D:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hammerhands

Sorry confused the tonnage with the Clan version!

Easy mistake when you haven't cracked a TRO in 2 years.

[KuroNyra]

I am waiting an answer from one of the staff member personatly.

[CDLord HHGD]

LordKnightFandragon, on 31 October 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

I kinda like the PGI centurion a little better.



But it keeps the same basic idea..outside of making it 20 feet wider...

The overall PGI style I absolutely LOVE. However, I do thing the Cent needs to be slightly thinner....

[CocoaJin]

Why should PGI even consider these unseen mechs? That can't make them look like their originals due to legal reasons...yet people keep asking them to like lawyers don't like making money and stamping out the dreams of little people like a burning lottery ticket. And if they make unseen diverge from the originals, the children will throw tantrums and fill the web with hate tantrums.

[Metus regem]

KuroNyra, on 31 October 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

So it's some variant of the warhammer who cause problem quiaff?

Hum... What if theses variant are simply not put in the game? Could Harmony Gold still try a d!ck move?

Yes, that is correct, the problem is, the WHM-8 family and newer look like crap.

LordKnightFandragon, on 31 October 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

But thats not a warhammer.....its......something else......

As far as Catalyst says it is, just of the WHM-8 family... And it doesn't get much better with the WHM-4/WHM-5/WHM-7/WHM-9/WHM-10/WHM-11....

Basically the one everyone wants is the WHM-6, the best looking of the entire group, but the one that is an unseen.

I have faith that PGI could do something amazing with WHM-6 to make it look different, but have enough of a throw back to the original TRO art work to make it work, but it's risky with Harmony Gold.