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[Phex]

My prediction, now that BAP is at 360 m:
There will be significantly more ECM Sniper as ECM in Brawl benefits less.
This means:
Less ECM protection for the group since the ECM Mechs run on sniper position.
I drive a Raven3L with 3ML, 2 streaks, ECM and BAP.
Sniping will probably not work.
But I'll try to adapt my tactics.

Greetings Phex

[The Boz]

Brawling will die, because it's impossible to offer resistance when under autocannon AND long range missile screenshakeglaresmokeflash.

[El Bandito]

Phex, on 07 November 2014 - 02:22 AM, said:

My prediction, now that BAP is at 360 m:
There will be significantly more ECM Sniper as ECM in Brawl benefits less.
This means:
Less ECM protection for the group since the ECM Mechs run on sniper position.
I drive a Raven3L with 3ML, 2 streaks, ECM and BAP.
Sniping will probably not work.
But I'll try to adapt my tactics.

Greetings Phex

You are late to the party. 3Ls have been Dual ERLLaser sniping since 2013. Besides, the mechs most likely to have BAP are usually LRM boats, and those mechs tend to stay way back from the 360 meter brawling range.

Most direct fire mech pilots don't bother to waste 1.5 tons on BAP just to counter ECM at close range. They prefer to max out their weapons and heatsinks.

BAP counters ECM from 0-360 meters and does nothing to it from 361-infinity meters. I'd call that balanced.

Edited by El Bandito, 07 November 2014 - 02:44 AM.

[Tombstoner]

El Bandito, on 07 November 2014 - 02:37 AM, said:

You are late to the party. 3Ls have been Dual ERLLaser sniping since 2013. Besides, the mechs most likely to have BAP are usually LRM boats, and those mechs tend to stay way back from the 360 meter brawling range.

Most direct fire mech pilots don't bother to waste 1.5 tons on BAP just to counter ECM at close range. They prefer to max out their weapons and heatsinks.

BAP counters ECM from 0-360 meters and does nothing to it from 361-infinity meters. I'd call that balanced.

I run a BAP on my awesome to give targeting info for my team mates and early detection of targets out side my peripheral vision. i also don't like the idea of someone sneaking up behind me while i have tunnel vision.

[Lily from animove]

The Boz, on 07 November 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

Brawling will die, because it's impossible to offer resistance when under autocannon AND long range missile screenshakeglaresmokeflash.

? is it, ther eis actually around 160m to cross ecm will help you very much to get close to the opponent, then you can already start brawlign and crossing the magical lrm 160m niche. Brawling won't die, the only thing that will die is the magic circling CQC lights that always have been a awkward playstyle.

[AlmightyAeng]

Don't wanna die to missiles in the brawl? Afraid that everyone has BAP so your ECM is gone?

Take ******* AMS already.

[Piney II]

I've never played sniper with my ECM lights. I prefer to work with the big guys on the fringes of the battle. If I can get the big mechs to the fight relatively unscathed, then my ECM was useful.

Brawling won't die. If my brawlers are taking long range fire, then my job will be to hunt down those shooters and at least distract them.

Improvise, adapt, overcome.........................

[The Boz]

Ghost Badger, on 07 November 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

Don't wanna die to missiles in the brawl? Afraid that everyone has BAP so your ECM is gone?

Take ******* AMS already.

I have one. Sometimes two. In combination with an ECM, while in my D-DC. An LRM5 still delivers at least two missiles per salvo, and it only gets worse. Doesn't help against an LRM30+ volley unless I am surrounded by ten more AMS mechs.

Edited by The Boz, 07 November 2014 - 05:42 AM.

[Mordin Ashe]

I may sound evil but I wouldn't mind if ECM simply died. Given how many games were decided by sheer refusal of any piece of information warfare because the other team had 4xECM made me doubt about competitive nature of MWO altogether. Once they find some role for it that won't be so disruptive I would be glad to see its implementation. Right now though, many of my Mechs run BAP/CAP.

[Viges]

Ghost Badger, on 07 November 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

Don't wanna die to missiles in the brawl? Afraid that everyone has BAP so your ECM is gone?

Take ******* AMS already.

Good try, but erll it is

[Belorion]

The Boz, on 07 November 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

Brawling will die, because it's impossible to offer resistance when under autocannon AND long range missile screenshakeglaresmokeflash.

Ghost Badger, on 07 November 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

Don't wanna die to missiles in the brawl? Afraid that everyone has BAP so your ECM is gone?

Take ******* AMS already.

I brawl without ECM or AMS...

LRMs are pretty worthless most of the time. Its all about cover and picking your fights. Now with the LRM nerf I am really not concerned about the changes to BAP.