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[Lily from animove]

Yes thats right I am asking that question. And no its not about kidding, its about being serious here and a mature discussion. Its especially about peeing and pooping (lets clal it P&P form now on).

base is I saw this pic in any thread:




Is that picture canon?

So there is food for serveral days? Which indicates they may stay in the mech for a few days as well. And exiting the mech is probably not what they do to P&P on some mission that take a few days? Especially in no athmosphere or terra therma like environments, I guess this is not very feasible.

Is that "waste Reclamation system" what I consider some kind of "toilet"? Or just some kind of litterbucket? But then what kind of "litter" wuld a mechpilot produce during his mission? Porbbaly only what remains come from the medical kit and or the food box. But that is hardly worth a complex system to be installed for.

When its lacking in clans, how do they do it? Is it integrated into their suit/seat for the P&P like astronauts do have in their suits?

Edited by Lily from animove, 07 November 2014 - 01:37 AM.

[Molossian Dog]

It is a picture I recognize, at least the center part. It is from Siberian Troll on the CBT forums.

Not canon, as far as I know.

[Evil Ed]

Yes, "waste reclamation system" is where you take a dump. Clanners use diapers, and as the size of the male clanner reproduction organ is reduced considerably; it's perfectly fine to use uni-sex diapers.

Edited by Evil Ed, 07 November 2014 - 03:32 AM.

[Molossian Dog]

Which explains a lot.

[mindwarp]

Canonically, IS mechs are fitted out for longer campaigns and have amenities like a toilet and a command chair that can recline like an airline seat for sleep. Clan mechs are designed for quick trials, and lack these facilities.

[Lily from animove]

mindwarp, on 07 November 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

Canonically, IS mechs are fitted out for longer campaigns and have amenities like a toilet and a command chair that can recline like an airline seat for sleep. Clan mechs are designed for quick trials, and lack these facilities.

did that clan design carried on for the invasasion models as well?

Evil Ed, on 07 November 2014 - 01:47 AM, said:

Yes, "waste reclamation system" is where you take a dump. Clanners uses diapers, and as the size of the male clanner reproduction organ is reduced considerably; it's perfectly fine to use uni-sex diapers.

They realy shrinked in size that much? Sarna tells me 2816 is the year they created iron wombats. So the time they started breeding them is not that long, not even 300 years. Is such a minor side effect of unified diapiers and smaller reproduction organs realyl soemthign you fpcus onto within such a small amount of time? I would expcted something like that only after a very very long time of using this methood, like serveral hundret generations and their inherieted characteristics. 300 years seem to be a bit short for the regular human lifecycle to breed that many specified aspects. You would focus first on the battle bailities before you find the nearly perfect breeds and sort them out by minor aspects like that.

I mena 300 yeras, how many generations do you breed? maybe 10. You create an embryo, it has to grow aroudn 9 month, then you raise and educate the child, train it for a mechwarrior, and before you can make a proper selection of the good genes, it needs to proof the value of its genes first. Which would I consider to maybe take like 30 yearrs, or maybe at least 20. Or do they pseed up some of that processes by growth hormones?

So before you can breed an improved next generation this is between 20 and 30 years a generation. and withing 300 years thats like 10 or 15 generations only. A bit low for that much alterations.

Edited by Lily from animove, 07 November 2014 - 02:48 AM.

[mindwarp]

The bit about clanner genitals is a joke.

[Molossian Dog]

Lily from animove, on 07 November 2014 - 02:43 AM, said:

...A bit low for that much alterations.

Tell that to the elementals.

[El Bandito]

Lily from animove, on 07 November 2014 - 02:43 AM, said:

did that clan design carried on for the invasasion models as well?




They realy shrinked in size that much? Sarna tells me 2816 is the year they created iron wombats. So the time they started breeding them is not that long, not even 300 years. Is such a minor side effect of unified diapiers and smaller reproduction organs realyl soemthign you fpcus onto within such a small amount of time? I would expcted something like that only after a very very long time of using this methood, like serveral hundret generations and their inherieted characteristics. 300 years seem to be a bit short for the regular human lifecycle to breed that many specified aspects. You would focus first on the battle bailities before you find the nearly perfect breeds and sort them out by minor aspects like that.

I mena 300 yeras, how many generations do you breed? maybe 10. You create an embryo, it has to grow aroudn 9 month, then you raise and educate the child, train it for a mechwarrior, and before you can make a proper selection of the good genes, it needs to proof the value of its genes first. Which would I consider to maybe take like 30 yearrs, or maybe at least 20.

So before you can breed an improved next generation this is between 20 and 30 years a generation. and withing 300 years thats like 10 or 15 generations only. A bit low for that much alterations.

Clans can easily genetically alter penis size in 31st century, if they choose to. They also considered removing breasts from female warriors, cause they are sterile.

Edited by El Bandito, 07 November 2014 - 02:57 AM.

[B0oN]

Although many of the higher ranking clan warriors have time and time again tried to remove sexual reproductive organs from their warriors (from breasts to the rest, all of it) since "warriors don´t father/mother children anyway", there is still that little training-program they are going through and after finishing that, a Trial of Position, so it is not even safe to say that all cadets go warrios, in fact the very opposite is the fact :
Out of 1 sibko wth 50-250 healthy babies only 1-5 warriors emrge in total, leaving a lot of both-gendered now sub-warrior-caste-members which sometimes reproduce ( remember Peri, Aidan Pryde´s sibko-sister ? She mothered Diana, a later warrior in "The Falconguard" which was commanded by ... Aidan Pryde ,wohoo ) for the better of the clan which of course is totally against most clans-people´s ingrained and indoctrinated rhetoric .

Oh yea, clanspeople don´t really dump, their tests are most of the time over quick enough to hold it in or die with cargo unshed
Spheroids on the other hand might have "waste-reclamation" inbuilt into comm-chair (would make most sense) I fathom .

Edited by Rad Hanzo, 07 November 2014 - 02:59 AM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

What do pilots do now who have multiple hour overwatch sorties

[Lily from animove]

Molossian Dog, on 07 November 2014 - 02:46 AM, said:

Tell that to the elementals.

are these purely breed features, or probably chemicals enhancing the characteristics? adding size and muscles growth is probably easier by some substances than preventing a very specific organ to grow.

I always thought:

Elementals: Steroids ftw

Edited by Lily from animove, 07 November 2014 - 03:59 AM.

[QuantumButler]

Cockpit seat.

Edited by QuantumButler, 07 November 2014 - 03:18 AM.

[Evil Ed]

Elementals are a product of genetical engineering and breeding. Basic stuff like the reduction of the size of certain male clan mechwarrior attributes was an easy task for the clan engineers: just find the genetical markers for size and replace them with the size marker for the pinky toe.

[Lily from animove]

why is the topic now in that category? how is this even offtopic beyong the mechwarrior Universe while things like the pony topic is not even on the mechwarrior subject but still within the jettison communication? I am realyl wodnering about the Forums structure.

[Mike Forst]

In K-Town, OP

[BlakeAteIt]

With all of us.

[Vassago Rain]

Nothing of value was lost.

[BlakeAteIt]

The value is largely in the losing.

[Mike Forst]

I like to win