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[Captain Stiffy]

I kinda lost interest at "90% of LRM ammo is wasted".

[PitchBlackYeti]

I'm running only one ERPPC on my 9M because three of those is a heat overkill even when fired 2+1. I run 2xLPL, 3xMPL and single ERPPC in the arm for some long range harrasment. Can't stand to the Wubshee but still fun If the stock 3xERPPC build is to be viable, the ERPPC heat quirks need to be more severe (but I would prefer stronger general quirks)

8R does very well with ALRM60 as long as you use an XL. With STD engine I prefer 2xALRM15, 2xASRM6 and ERLL as backup weapon(s)

8Q is a monster now with PPCs, even on caustic and therma, I carry 3 MPLs in case something closes in beyond 90m

Actually tempted to buy the PB now, maybe when it's on discount?

[QuantumButler]

PitchBlackYeti, on 08 November 2014 - 05:40 AM, said:

I'm running only one ERPPC on my 9M because three of those is a heat overkill even when fired 2+1. I run 2xLPL, 3xMPL and single ERPPC in the arm for some long range harrasment. Can't stand to the Wubshee but still fun If the stock 3xERPPC build is to be viable, the ERPPC heat quirks need to be more severe (but I would prefer stronger general quirks)

8R does very well with ALRM60 as long as you use an XL. With STD engine I prefer 2xALRM15, 2xASRM6 and ERLL as backup weapon(s)

8Q is a monster now with PPCs, even on caustic and therma, I carry 3 MPLs in case something closes in beyond 90m

Actually tempted to buy the PB now, maybe when it's on discount?

ERPPCs should get a heat reduction in general.

[Satan n stuff]

Captain Stiffy, on 08 November 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

I kinda lost interest at "90% of LRM ammo is wasted".

Mine certainly isn't, I have hitrates over 50% for everything but LRM20s.

[Captain Stiffy]

Satan n stuff, on 08 November 2014 - 05:43 AM, said:

Mine certainly isn't, I have hitrates over 50% for everything but LRM20s.

Yeah that's what I'm sayin... if you are wasting 90% of your ammo and you have all that equipment on your mech you need to back off the fire button some.

[Tahribator]

It is still a very flawed design but at least it hits hard now. I think this is as good as it gets without making it a one-shotting ultimate game ender. There's no alleviating these flaws:

• Low mounted hardpoints
  
• Hardpoints far apart from each other
  
• Wide torso
  
• Protruding CT
  
• Low engine cap
  
• Extremely XL unfriendly

It'll always be a 'Mech for those who want to challenge themselves.

[TexAce]

Perhaps you are just not a good Awesome pilot?

This was an 8R with 2ERLL, 4SRM6 + 1ML



I single-handedly killed an Atlas (which was not caring about me), 1 Daishi, 1 Timber and 1 BJ (poor thing didnt last 2 SRM alpha volleys), the last one was a Ice ferret which ran directly into my SRMs and poof, gone.

The 9M with 1ERPPC,2PPC,1ML,3SSRM2s is a killer too. Not as hot as some might think if you cycle the PPCs. Wrecks too.

Edited by TexAss, 08 November 2014 - 06:54 AM.

[King Arthur IV]

show us another.

[TexAce]

King Arthur IV, on 08 November 2014 - 06:57 AM, said:

show us another.

You mean me? Sure bro.



Notice the last survivor in that match, too

Edited by TexAss, 08 November 2014 - 07:06 AM.

[QuantumButler]

Conclusion: Awesomes are minimally viable now, no longer worst in class.

[Col Jaime Wolf]

vnlk65n, on 08 November 2014 - 05:23 AM, said:

If you run some trash build where you have an eclectic mix of weapons that don't have overlapping ranges, on a mech that only carries 6 weapons, tops, you are setting yourself up to fail. Of course the PB is going to suck with that build because you have anemic firepower at long range and anemic firepower at close range, and the overlapping range where you can bring all of your firepower to bear is basically not workable. You know that boating is good but you don't understand why it's good. You make the accusation that it's got some terrible mixed weapon loadout because you are putting a terrible mixed weapon loadout on it.

The stacking cooldown reduction on the large lasers is huge and you're seriously wasting it if you're putting an ERPPC on your mech (which is not really a very good weapon anyways). The cooldown on them with LLAS CD 5 is probably around the 2 second mark.

2x LLAS 2x LRM 15 1x MLAS. PB is fast enough to outrun most mechs that can outshoot it (Timberwolf excluded) and with this it can fit into a heavy skirmisher role spamming lasers and LRMs from 300-500m.

just going to point out that pb is limited to 15/4/4 in tubes so anything past a single lrm 15 is not so tenable. you can try interesting things like an lrm 20+10+10 but then you shoot lrms in a strange fashion.... also plx go look at its quirks it can only really choose between ml and LL if you want to take advantage of them.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

8R should have gotten SRM6 Quirks (HONEY BADGER, HELLO PGI)
8V should have been the dedicated LRM chassis (it has LRM quirks) but it's PPC quirks give it real identity issues.

[oldradagast]

It's still the worst IS assault... it's just not terrible anymore.

If done right, it can be a threat, assuming the pilot is decent in it, too... but from an absolute viewpoint, there is always going to be a "worst" whatever, and the Awesome sadly is still it.