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[pulupulu]

due to the ridiculous thin diet hitbox of stormcrow center, right, and left torso, I feel I would like to hear what people's opinion is on it.

in my opinion...

(higher is worst)
1. LBX
2. SRM no artemis
3. SRM artemis
4. Lasers, clan autocannon
big gap
5. Pulse Lasers, ultra ac5
6. PPC, ac10, ac5
7. gauss, ac20

Thank the lord this thing doesn't have jumpjet.

Edited by pulupulu, 08 November 2014 - 02:29 AM.

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

Stormcrows arent that great or godlike... I dont get the complaints.

[Alienized]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 08 November 2014 - 02:15 AM, said:

Stormcrows arent that great or godlike... I dont get the complaints.

propably like the huginn: alot of player-dependancy....
some cant play the hug(g)inn.... i just smash everything with it. scr's with full c-streak noobage for example.... you cant have more ez-mode.

[Lily from animove]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 08 November 2014 - 02:15 AM, said:

Stormcrows arent that great or godlike... I dont get the complaints.

lol

third best mech in the last tournament


and that is definately not without reason.

care to explain me, why piloting a SCR badly is actually hard to do, while being good is rather easy.
its very easy to pull out games like this:










look at these screens, look at other SCR's in there.

just a joke how easy that mech is, 2 high mounted E hardpoints, high mobility slim superior hitboxes. That mech is definately OP because its a lot stronger than most mechs.

Edited by Lily from animove, 11 November 2014 - 07:49 AM.

[Gamuray]

Not to mention it can magically absorb damage too >_> An ac20 + 16srm's almost blows the side off a DWF in one shot. But it barely even changes the color of the armor on a SCR. No wonder it's meta -.-'

[Kodyn]

I will admit that Crows feel harder to take down than any Dire I've ever seen....I've pumped 300 dmg or more into one before to see it keep on truckin' like you aren't even stressing him out. Hitboxes from hell....or heaven if you're the pilot enjoying the easy-mode.

[Rushin Roulette]

Why do players insist on aiming for the Torso of these mechs? They have exactly the same hitbox downside which a Raven has... just shoot the damn legs and hey presto you have an easy to hit Stormcrow which goes down in seconds to concentrated fire.

Just about every mech is easy to hit if you go for the legs... plus the up side is you only need to worry about hitting 2 Hitboxes (left leg, right leg) instead of 5 (head, left arm, right arm, left torso, right torso and centre torso). No shield arms or 50% (25% if shooting an arm) damage transfers to teh centre... just 100% damage on legs and then switch to the other leg to finish.

[Lily from animove]

Rushin Roulette, on 11 November 2014 - 05:21 AM, said:

Why do players insist on aiming for the Torso of these mechs? They have exactly the same hitbox downside which a Raven has... just shoot the damn legs and hey presto you have an easy to hit Stormcrow which goes down in seconds to concentrated fire.

Just about every mech is easy to hit if you go for the legs... plus the up side is you only need to worry about hitting 2 Hitboxes (left leg, right leg) instead of 5 (head, left arm, right arm, left torso, right torso and centre torso). No shield arms or 50% (25% if shooting an arm) damage transfers to teh centre... just 100% damage on legs and then switch to the other leg to finish.

Legs are also well armored, and a SCR will do horrible things to you before you shoot the legs off, also chicken legs in movement will mostlikely not eat all the lasers you fire at them or some srms will go right through into the ground.

so when you try to hit the legs you will also have alot dead damage doen into nowhere. except maybe you have dualgauss and extremely good aim to never miss these shots. But efurther if you don't shoot at the torso, the SCR won't have to torsotwist, granting it even easier time to shoot at you.

and since the SCR ahs some nice high mounted hardpoints, I anways tend to use that on edges and hills to hide much of my mech. So try to hit legs that you can not see.

Edited by Lily from animove, 11 November 2014 - 07:48 AM.

[Bront]

Stormcrows get eaten up by LRMs I've found. They seem to love the CT no mater which way you turn (or are even facing). I find the CT easy to hit most of the time, or I go for the legs. Several Stormcrow pilots will pull off leg armor for more weapons.

[Rushin Roulette]

Lily from animove, on 11 November 2014 - 07:47 AM, said:

Legs are also well armored, and a SCR will do horrible things to you before you shoot the legs off, also chicken legs in movement will mostlikely not eat all the lasers you fire at them or some srms will go right through into the ground.

so when you try to hit the legs you will also have alot dead damage doen into nowhere. except maybe you have dualgauss and extremely good aim to never miss these shots. But efurther if you don't shoot at the torso, the SCR won't have to torsotwist, granting it even easier time to shoot at you.

and since the SCR ahs some nice high mounted hardpoints, I anways tend to use that on edges and hills to hide much of my mech. So try to hit legs that you can not see.

Aim for the thighs, not the lower legs. There is a lot less movement there. Plus the thighs have the added bonus that If the Mech moves up or down (Hill, dip or Jumpjets), then your damage gets spread onto the mech instead of into the ground. The two Stormcorw legs hahve a lot less armour than the compelte torso and arms, so that argument is null and void. Yes, a Stormcrow with all weapons intact but only one leg does a lot of damage, but on the up side it is then also hardly maneuverable and you can position yourself outside of the damage arc (i. E. dont keep on standing right infornt of it and soaking the damage like a Lemming when you can run behind him and take absolutely no damage).

[LordMelvin]

Stormcrow STs are pencil thin, but the way they connect to the CT means that damage splashes all over the place when you use lasers or Clan ACs. The arms are also just wide enough to cover the ST from the side, meaning that proper torso twist can make use to the arms as shields too. They're basically nature's answer to the Awesome or the Catapult.

Fortunately they've got severely atrophied wrists, so you can laugh while you dismantle them. Builds team morale.

In all seriousness though, any pilot who knows how to torso twist properly can make a Stormcrow last way longer than you'd normally thing possible. They're a lot like Centurions in that regard. The best solution is to aim for the legs as always, although aiming center mass will net you good results if you can sustain damage output.

[Lily from animove]

Rushin Roulette, on 11 November 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Aim for the thighs, not the lower legs. There is a lot less movement there. Plus the thighs have the added bonus that If the Mech moves up or down (Hill, dip or Jumpjets), then your damage gets spread onto the mech instead of into the ground. The two Stormcorw legs hahve a lot less armour than the compelte torso and arms, so that argument is null and void. Yes, a Stormcrow with all weapons intact but only one leg does a lot of damage, but on the up side it is then also hardly maneuverable and you can position yourself outside of the damage arc (i. E. dont keep on standing right infornt of it and soaking the damage like a Lemming when you can run behind him and take absolutely no damage).

SCR is with its speed even good enough to legtwist if needed. or to get into rpoper cover, especialyl with the very high Sidetorsi Mountpoints not whosing your legs is one of the SCR standard tactics. before the leg is off you will also have taken a bad amount of damage.

thats why even "bad" scr matches mostly ned up with like 300+ damage. which leaves one or two mechs badly cored.

[VoodooLou Kerensky]

Not gonna do the quote thing feelin too lazy buuuutttt.... Lily it appears in most of those drops that you werent out Puggin by yourself which changes things drastically, and it seems to me that no matter the Mech and the build, if Im in it it doesnt take the punishment that others do and I dont get them kind of scores. And your l337 and Ive just been around since forever