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[Ratpoison]

Ialdabaoth, on 07 May 2015 - 01:11 AM, said:

Now, when you're about to fall, you have a certain amount of time, dependent on the calculated impulse, to hit (W/A/S/D) to lean *into* the fall. If you successfully 'get your legs back under you' before the impulse-based time limit expires (somewhere between 0.1 seconds and 0.5 seconds), you abort the fall and regain your balance. Otherwise, down you go.

You can't just repurpose the use of critical controls mid-use and expect good results. Your idea is needlessly complex and probably not something that could ever be reasonably coded into this game.

[Lyoto Machida]

Alistair Winter, on 14 November 2014 - 10:26 PM, said:

How are you gonna talk about realism and then use that link to prove your point? The turkish get-up? Really, dude? Yeah, it's great if you're in a streetfight or MMA bout and worrying about someone kicking or punching you in the face as you get up. But how is that relevant to this discussion? There are no flying knees and superman punches in MWO. That's not the fastest way to get to your feet at all, it's just a relatively safe way if you're in the middle of a fist fight.

Here's a very easy way to get up that doesn't require any speed or the use of your arms. You can do this with arms crossed, so you can't use them to gain momentum.

• Lie down
  
• Sit up, keeping your legs straight
  
• Move the heel from one leg close to your ass, keeping the other leg straight
  
• Lean forward
  
• Stand up

Also relevant:


http://www.nbcnews.c...vity-f1C7588565

Getting up without using your arms. It's not that hard. It doesn't require ninja flips. Most people can do it with a bit of practice, if they have working joints and good balance. And battlemechs will normally have both.

Maybe I'm thinking of humans and not battlemechs but I'm not sure how the method you're describing is faster than a Turkish get-up (never knew that move had a name before...thanks).

Is getting up without using your arms really as fast as using your arms? Kinda sounds like trying to scale a fence with and without using your legs. Yeah, you can do it both ways but one method is easier than the other. Anyways, give mechs that have hand actuators a speed bonus when getting up...make that crit worth SOMETHING at least.

On a random note, I wonder how many people here can do a muscle up. Searching for muscle up gifs on the web makes me want to do Crossfit now (though, I think I'll just stick to something safer like Muay Thai). Never tried them on rings but seems like the doing them on a bar is harder.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

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Moogy, on 06 May 2015 - 12:48 PM, said:

Any news on collisions?

Wasnt it the collision mod last we heard?

Moogy, on 06 May 2015 - 12:48 PM, said:

Any news on collisions?

Until they figure out a way they wont be embarrassed in their own game like this, then the answer is a big fat NOPE

[Alistair Winter]

Lyoto Machida, on 07 May 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

Maybe I'm thinking of humans and not battlemechs but I'm not sure how the method you're describing is faster than a Turkish get-up (never knew that move had a name before...thanks).

It's called a technical stand up in MMA context. Do you even trane UFC bro?

I don't think the method I described is necessarily the fastest. I was making two separate points. 1) Turkish get-up is not the fastest way to stand up and 2) There are fast ways to stand up without using your arms. But yeah, if you want to give a slight advantage to mechs with arms, that's ok. I just don't think it's a prerequisite.

Lyoto Machida, on 07 May 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

On a random note, I wonder how many people here can do a muscle up. Searching for muscle up gifs on the web makes me want to do Crossfit now (though, I think I'll just stick to something safer like Muay Thai). Never tried them on rings but seems like the doing them on a bar is harder.

It's a good way to wreck your shoulders unless you're already in good shape from doing similar exercises and/or weight lifting. I do think muay thai is indeed safer for your body than crossfit. Just probably not as good for your brain, depending on how guys train at your gym or how much you compete. But I'd rather have slurred speech and memory loss than a bad back. A bit of slurred speech never stopped anyone from training