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[Bishop Steiner]

I don't mind the tournament. Overall, it is done in such a way as not to interfere with my play too much, so why not opt in, pad the wallet, grab a Hula Girl, have some laughs.

But watching the players go out of their way to touch everything and NOT get kills, to maximize their scores, so they can show of their Epeen? Seriously laughable.

Fact is, you get 12 kills, 1500 damage (240), you end up with A LOWER SCORE, than the guy who gets 0 kills, 11 Assists and 750 damage, in a loss (270). Mind you, those 11 assists on a win, to qualify for the Leaderboards, is a score of 290.

This makes sense, how? Half my highest scores came from absolute crap matches, where the ones I dominated (5-6 kills, 600+ damage in a HBK-4G..... can't help the damage, critter is too efficient at killing, lol) are in the lower half of my qualifying scores.

This might be the first Tournament where the Leaderboards are dominated by people who did less to actually help the team win the game. On the upside, FF is down, overall, and a lot less killstealing, lol.

*SMH*

GG, PGI, Close. Lol.

[QuantumButler]

People are gaming the system because they want that sweet, sweet 100k extra cbills per match bonus, because earnings are otherwise ****.

At least that's why I'm using my blue lasers, I don't give a **** about the leaderboards personally.

Edited by QuantumButler, 15 November 2014 - 01:46 PM.

[Metus regem]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 November 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

I don't mind the tournament. Overall, it is done in such a way as not to interfere with my play too much, so why not opt in, pad the wallet, grab a Hula Girl, have some laughs.

But watching the players go out of their way to touch everything and NOT get kills, to maximize their scores, so they can show of their Epeen? Seriously laughable.

Fact is, you get 12 kills, 1500 damage (240), you end up with A LOWER SCORE, than the guy who gets 0 kills, 11 Assists and 750 damage, in a loss (270). Mind you, those 11 assists on a win, to qualify for the Leaderboards, is a score of 290.

This makes sense, how? Half my highest scores came from absolute crap matches, where the ones I dominated (5-6 kills, 600+ damage in a HBK-4G..... can't help the damage, critter is too efficient at killing, lol) are in the lower half of my qualifying scores.

This might be the first Tournament where the Leaderboards are dominated by people who did less to actually help the team win the game. On the upside, FF is down, overall, and a lot less killstealing, lol.

*SMH*

GG, PGI, Close. Lol.

I just run the game, have fun, and not worry. I had three or four drops with some guys from cgbi last night, and had a blast in group.

[Bishop Steiner]

QuantumButler, on 15 November 2014 - 01:45 PM, said:

People are gaming the system because they want that sweet, sweet 100k extra cbills per match bonus, because earnings are otherwise ****.

At least that's why I'm using my blue lasers, I don't give a **** about the leaderboards personally.

don't even need to game it for that. 130 is pretty easy to get, regardless. I'm averaging it on over 75% of matches, and I'm just playing like I always do, shooting what I see, and trying to kill whatever I can, lol.

Metus regem, on 15 November 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

I just run the game, have fun, and not worry. I had three or four drops with some guys from cgbi last night, and had a blast in group.

We're a pretty good Clan over there. Got our Comp Team, but also just some quality people. I'm pretty pleased to be a part of them on my alt. account.

[Green Mamba]

Challenges like this make the game unenjoyable

[pwnface]

I just want some free MC, also the scoring system is incredibly dumb.

[MadPanda]

PGI made a challenge and set the rules. Nothing 'sad' about the players who play by the rules. Blame the game not the player.

[Wrathful Scythe]

With 500k per match, I would have played all weekend to get those shiny 10 mil. C-bills like last time but with 100k c-bill? Nah, I pass. Playing on Tournamnet weekends is really unpleasent because of the amount of tag/narc and thos 4-5 lurmboats who seek targets. My first match today was in a Banshee and i got lurmed to death on caustic.

Its nice to have free things but I prefer to have fun while getting less rewards then grinding those 130 point-matches.

[Bishop Steiner]

MadPanda, on 15 November 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

PGI made a challenge and set the rules. Nothing 'sad' about the players who play by the rules. Blame the game not the player.

Playing, and gaming, not really the same, but yes, I know most gamers can't tell the difference. Sorry dude, but watching people avoid kills, is indeed sad and laughable.

[DAYLEET]

You can't blame/hate the people for playing the game but you sure can blame/hate the one who made the game.

That said, the system as it is now rewards people who arent great/good at the game and it's fine(for cbills rewards and other trinkets) but it's dumb that ranking also rewards bad behaviors. Sure there are those who will do it for the ranking but you can dismiss them, just know that this weekend will prolly be sh!t to play in. It's like that with most video competition, the game designers just don't know how to make a game that can be fair without having to "exploit" 5% of the game content.

Im also racing in PoE and just like with MWO i refuse to be part of the tryhard crowd and i just do my own things, learn on my own instead of just being as cheesy as possible. Yesterday i was able to rank 90th and i was happy about that, with a build/class everyone would laugh and give me **** for and thats fine too, i enjoy not being part of them.

Edited by DAYLEET, 15 November 2014 - 02:06 PM.

[QuantumButler]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 November 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

Playing, and gaming, not really the same, but yes, I know most gamers can't tell the difference. Sorry dude, but watching people avoid kills, is indeed sad and laughable.

The fact is, someone should have looked at the rules they came up with and known better, I can't imagine the resultant behavior would have been too hard to predict.

[STEF_]

Topic title's answer: Both.

edit: countless matches and episodes, in which I was focusing fire with 2-3 mates... and then after damage done, they left position, instead of "finish" the enemy mech.
Just bad rules + too much bad players.

Edited by Stefka Kerensky, 15 November 2014 - 02:10 PM.

[Michael Abt]

My "problem" is that i shoot to kill, the AC20 makes big holes into small targets, and so only 25% of my matches are over 130 points. It's some extra cash so i have no reason to complain. After fully module-equipping 3 of my Hunchies i am back to 75mil, so money isn't an issue anyway.

[Eboli]

Completely agree with you Bishop. This type of comp brings out the worse gameplay in certain players. MadPanda does have it right in a way when he stated don't blame the people but the game rules...

BUT, I just cannot play that way and have just continued playing it my way as I have always done. The saddest part of the solo queue is that I have actually seen that when a player has been in trouble with the enemy and his "team "mates" are happy to get a little damage and then just walk away for other targets.

I have watched a LRM boater (I died early) with 5xLRM pods flick from 1 target to another just shooting one volley to ensure they get their assists...

Sad gameplay.

I'll still get my bonuses but probably should have had more but we lost because mechs which should have been killed were not.

Cheers!
Eboli

[STEF_]

Eboli, on 15 November 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

I have watched a LRM boater (I died early) with 5xLRM pods flick from 1 target to another just shooting one volley to ensure they get their assists...

and really, I don't really remember ever seeing so many lrm like this weekend in two years of MWO. Ever.

[Dragomir Zelenka]

This week is like aversion therapy for decisive violence: next weekend's rewards should be themed around who can hold a target for longest without firing a single shot.

[Eboli]

Yep, played this game right from the beginning and the amount of LRMs around at the moment is quite terrible. I have played mostly lights so I know how to handle them but still, pretty crazy. I am not calling for a nerf but, you know what I mean...

The only other memorable LRM moment was when LRMs did about a 90% dive trajectory a while ago which meant players hiding behind tall buildings were getting struck.

Anyhow, games goes on but I feel sorry for new players coming to the game trying to learn how to play and get caught up in this type of gameplay. They may/will become part of the same LRM problem or just walk away IMHO.

I hope a next tournament scenario may be damage by laser only. At least this will teach people how to snipe and move around a map using cover. Sure that will cause problems anyways. Ya can't win

Cheers!
Eboli

Edited by Eboli, 15 November 2014 - 02:36 PM.

[Ursh]

Green Mamba, on 15 November 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

Challenges like this make the game unenjoyable

Almost every challenge weekend is a fairly unenjoyable time to play. Why can't they have some of these challenges from Tues-Thurs?

[pwnface]

Best match so far 0 kills 12 assists 947 damage. Match score 302+20.

[Thorqemada]

Mh, i have a low Motivation to play MWO anyway - 16500+ matches since CB - bought me a CN9-D for some LBX Fun but it feels simply wrong to have a LBX in AC2 mode...so i dont care much about the Tournament and that People do like People allways do and game the System.

Did 1 match and rank at place 1425 in the Lone Wolf ladder - that is not that bad amount of a player participation.

HF GL GG ETC PP

Edited by Thorqemada, 17 November 2014 - 01:48 AM.