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[Catalinasgrace]

Oooook, as the title states when can we see the Nova get some love and get a bit un-nerfed back from oblivion?

With all of the quirks going around and balancing it would be nice to have all of this clan nerfing that happened to be looked at again. Yes I know there needs to be a good balance.... For the life of me I cannot understand why they seem to going overboard as they do when "balancing" anything... hahaha

The Nova is or was a good mech if run correctly, and you are crazy if you actually ran 12m on the thing. However, even now running 4ml and 4ml with a few mg's you will in fact overheat within a crazy short amount of time and that is only firing one arm at a time.

The Nova was already a glass canon in every sense of the term, and now it's just cracked glass. We now have mechs running 7mpl with very little heat issues and others getting structure bumps. Bring the Nova back up to spec please... lol...

I guess what people don't understand while they were too busy crying about this mech is that it really was a glass canon. One really good alpha to the arms and they were gone. So now we have a mech that is still made of glass but unless you want to sit WAY back, fire each arm once, then have to cool off for the next 20 seconds you would be better off playing any other mech in the game...

Before anyone gets silly on here as normal, I know how to run the mech, and how to change it as this is one of my favorite mechs. However, my point stands with all of the above. The proof is that only those hardcore fans of this mech attempt to run it and for good reason...

[AlphaToaster]

The recent changes to the small and medium laser help a lot, but what we need is for Small lasers to be removed from ghost heat with medium lasers.

I am actually running 4x mg, 6x medium, 6x small. I think there's enough latent heat with just shooting 6, than it's not very balanced to get double penalized by having even more heat added to the smalls, if I fire them with the mediums. Even without ghost heat, it's about 76% of the heat bar to fire the small just after the mediums.

The JJ changes were the first step, removing small lasers from medium laser ghost heat is the next.

[SI The Joker]

Could not agree with this more. The Nova has got to be, ton for ton, the WORST mech in the game right now.

I'm running 4CERMLAS and 4MG.... the thing overheats so quickly it's almost not even fun to play.

I couldn't even imagine running a stock 12CERMLAS build.

That combined with some really strange hitboxes (Guys aim for my arms and hit my legs?!), this mech needs some serious love.

[C E Dwyer]

I mastered mine, not likely to use again so no quirks needed

[Glaive-]

Fully agree.

The Adder and Summoner also need work, but not as much as the poor Nova

[SI The Joker]

Cathy, on 18 November 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

I mastered mine, not likely to use again so no quirks needed

I'm on my last one with about 25k more exp required to master it. It's been a brutal journey... one which I hope to make up for when I do the Stormcrows next.

[Mordin Ashe]

This Mech needs quirks similar to what some IS Mechs got few weeks ago, and that is reduction in specific energy weapons heat generation. Not that much is needed, only 10 or 20% in total, but without it Nova has too many cons for almost non-existent pros. Poor balance overall in this Mech.
Also, very bad hitboxes, the Mech is too wide and bulky for 50t Mech.

[Brody319]

step 1: Delete the nova
step 2: Add the Super Nova
step 3: ????
step 4: Profit
step 5: Nerf it to oblivion

[Monkey Lover]

The nova needs a lot more than some. It wasn't that good before clan nerf strike hit. Now its got to be the worst with the summoner running a few feet behind it.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 18 November 2014 - 11:20 AM.

[SoukouKiheiVOTOMS]

I couldn't agree with you more! To be honest, the Nova has always been my favorite, however, it's wayyyyyyyyy too hot to use and as mentioned before, it is a glass cannon. It's so easy to rip off the arms and the side torsos are very easy to destroy. I don't mind it being a glass cannon of some sorts, however, it needs a little more work on the hit box or more armor. The heating also needs work since it does feel that even with a reduction of lasers, runs really hot. I usually use a 2xLPL and 4xSPL build, and it gets hot so easily.

[Jeb]

I agree the nova needs some help... no matter how you try to play the thing you overheat...
I don't want to see the previous huge alpha strikes brought back though.

Give it faster cooling and some better defense quirks maybe... but keep the heat high enough that alphas are rare...

In general this game has too many alphas as it is... alpha strikes should not be part of your rotation in combat, they should be a rare "hail mary" type attack...

[Catalinasgrace]

I agree with Jeb there... No mech should be the end all be all, I'm gonna kill you with 1 or 2 shots without having severe consequences. However, I do hope that something is done about the Nova and the complete smackdown that it got...

Edited by Catalinasgrace, 18 November 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[Rampancy]

Nova B arm pods could use a little bit of quirk love, the rest of the Nova is pretty good imo. The heat nerf to the cERML kind of killed stock Nova Prime as a viable build, but I've been running 6xcERML with 6xcERSL, targetting computer mark 1, and 20 DHS to pretty good effect. A nuke in one fist, a rapier in the other.

[LowSubmarino]

I mastered it too some time ago. Tested around forever and ultimatly realized it is an abysmal mech that will get you killed.

One of the very worst mechs in this game. Its so wide that anything hits it even if the other guy turns away from you and shoots the ground. Your so fat that it will hit you anyway.

It cant take any damage whatsoever and overheats so quickly that you have no chance against lights, against mediums let alone anything heavier. Youre just a defenseless victim waiting to be annihilated by any average player. Without wanting to sound arrogant, Im a decent player. If I cant win much with that mech then I feel sorry for any new players. Not even if they get 1 mil free cbills if they play it mastered. Not even as a gift.

Cause you wont have much fun in it and then, even if you get it for free + pocket money, youll prolly stop playing the game alltogether as the mech sux so very hard.

it sux so hard that even the gods above cry.

B-a-d R-o-b-o-t. Don't touch it. It would need at the very least - prolly twice as much - quirks as the tdr 5ss. Maybe 3 times as much.

[Rampancy]

oneda, on 18 November 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

I mastered it too some time ago. Tested around forever and ultimatly realized it is an abysmal mech that will get you killed.

One of the very worst mechs in this game. Its so wide that anything hits it even if the other guy turns away from you and shoots the ground. Your so fat that it will hit you anyway.

It cant take any damage whatsoever and overheats so quickly that you have no chance against lights, against mediums let alone anything heavier. Youre just a defenseless victim waiting to be annihilated by any average player. Without wanting to sound arrogant, Im a decent player. If I cant win much with that mech then I feel sorry for any new players. Not even if they get 1 mil free cbills if they play it mastered. Not even as a gift.

Cause you wont have much fun in it and then, even if you get it for free + pocket money, youll prolly stop playing the game alltogether as the mech sux so very hard.

it sux so hard that even the gods above cry.

B-a-d R-o-b-o-t. Don't touch it. It would need at the very least - prolly twice as much - quirks as the tdr 5ss. Maybe 3 times as much.

I'm sure it will get a few good quirks to help make it more competitive, but you're really underselling the mech's abilities here. I haven't been able to get the B to work very well, but the S and Prime both have very good loadout possibilities.

[Catalinasgrace]

Rampancy, I hope you are correct and PGI does give the Nova some love with the quirk pass... When is that even suppose to happen or do we even know anything about it at all other than it is going to happen?

[Kain Demos]

What was it like before they nerfed the C-ERML from 5 to 6 heat?

That along with ghost heat are killing that loadout.

[Brody319]

Kain Thul, on 18 November 2014 - 11:30 PM, said:

What was it like before they nerfed the C-ERML from 5 to 6 heat?

That along with ghost heat are killing that loadout.

I heard it was pretty good. could fire all 6 without overheating. Now if you alpha in the prime you explode your core no matter what map you are on.

[DYSEQTA]

armyunit, on 18 November 2014 - 11:06 AM, said:

Fully agree.

The Adder and Summoner also need work, but not as much as the poor Nova

The Adder is just fine. I have no idea what builds ppl are trying to use that make them think it is bad but I love my Adder.

[Mordin Ashe]

DYSEQTA, on 19 November 2014 - 01:34 AM, said:

The Adder is just fine. I have no idea what builds ppl are trying to use that make them think it is bad but I love my Adder.

I love my Adder too! The visuals, the cockpit, it is a beauty!
A beauty that is completely outclassed by any IS light Mech that plays the same way with more speed to scoot in troubled times, a beauty that has one energy hardpoint invested into something that hurts you more than it hurts the enemy (EMO-flamer FTW!) and a beauty that does less dmg than locust... But hey, a beauty!

Pity competitive games don't give points for visuals.