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[ARCDave]

So I noticed on the third Mechlab Screenshot that when it showed what type it
was it was a normal Catapult, but that on the actual Catapult there were PPC cannons on it.
Does that mean we can change the missile launchers on our founder catapults to PPC cannons?

[Fresh Meat]

no, but we can assign ppcs to the energy hard-points located on torso. Apparently there is enough room, but you are stuck with the missile hardpoints.

[Greyrook]

There are specific preset variants of mechs determined by the lore, here's a link to the Catapult's wiki http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Catapult, as you can see in the screenshot, the mech is the K2 variant, which indeed removes the missle launchers in favor of beam weapons. The demo videos allude to you being able to use many different variants for battlemechs, and then customize the loadouts personally. If this stays true, yes, you'll be able to turn your fire support mech into a PPC hard-hitter

Edited by Greyrook, 26 June 2012 - 12:58 AM.

[Slepnir]

Yep the K2, my favorite variant of the cat....of course i am a kuritan and thats our variant.

[Voyager I]

Greyrook, on 26 June 2012 - 12:57 AM, said:

There are specific preset variants of mechs determined by the lore, here's a link to the Catapult's wiki http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Catapult, as you can see in the screenshot, the mech is the K2 variant, which indeed removes the missle launchers in favor of beam weapons. The demo videos allude to you being able to use many different variants for battlemechs, and then customize the loadouts personally. If this stays true, yes, you'll be able to turn your fire support mech into a PPC hard-hitter

We're aware of that, but based on the information we've seen so far, the base variant has energy mounts in its side torsos with enough room to mount PPCs. You'll have to clear out at least some of the Medium Lasers to make space and free hardpoints, and the LRMs will have to be cut back to save weight, but it can be done.

This does make the K-2 somewhat less attractive as an option, although it does have ballistics mounts.

[Greyrook]

Voyager I, on 26 June 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

the base variant has energy mounts in its side torsos with enough room to mount PPCs. You'll have to clear out at least some of the Medium Lasers to make space and free hardpoints, and the LRMs will have to be cut back to save weight, but it can be done.

This does make the K-2 somewhat less attractive as an option, although it does have ballistics mounts.

It shouldn't, the hardpoints on the torso should be restricted to missile weapons in the base variant, regardless of how many slots there are.

[Stormeris]

Voyager I, on 26 June 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

We're aware of that, but based on the information we've seen so far, the base variant has energy mounts in its side torsos with enough room to mount PPCs. You'll have to clear out at least some of the Medium Lasers to make space and free hardpoints, and the LRMs will have to be cut back to save weight, but it can be done.

This does make the K-2 somewhat less attractive as an option, although it does have ballistics mounts.

oooh yeah, double AC/20 K2 catapult

[Skadi]

K2 catapult with 2 PPC's 2 Heavy Lasers and 2 Medium Lasers, overheat city here i come.

[Earthtalker]

Now wouldn't that be one hell of a surprise. I can hear it now....."Poptart 1 to Command: Enemy Catapult is dry, moving in for kill." "Command to Poptart 1: Roger that, Scout. Take care not to get that Jenner of yours scratched to badly from his 4 ML's." "Poptart 1 to Command: I see the target and aBZBZZZZZTZTZTZTZTZTZZT .......GOT A FU.....BZBBZBBZBZBZ......PPC UNDER HIBBBBZZZBNZZTZTZTZ................"

[Abagnatius]

Earthtalker, on 26 June 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

Now wouldn't that be one hell of a surprise. I can hear it now....."Poptart 1 to Command: Enemy Catapult is dry, moving in for kill." "Command to Poptart 1: Roger that, Scout. Take care not to get that Jenner of yours scratched to badly from his 4 ML's." "Poptart 1 to Command: I see the target and aBZBZZZZZTZTZTZTZTZTZZT .......GOT A FU.....BZBBZBBZBZBZ......PPC UNDER HIBBBBZZZBNZZTZTZTZ................"

Lol

You just made my day

[Alaric Wolf Kerensky]

They are different variants. Like how you have the Atlas 7-K and 7-D shown in different videos/screens. Catapult C1 uses missiles, K2 uses lasers.

[Chiyeko Kuramochi]

Would be a nasty surprise no missiles coming in from the cat, you think you should be in the clear and that you find your armour has molten away under the fire of 2 PPC cannons.

[Voyager I]

Greyrook, on 26 June 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

It shouldn't, the hardpoints on the torso should be restricted to missile weapons in the base variant, regardless of how many slots there are.

The Catapult's missile pods are counted as it's "arms". I'm talking about the torso-mounted Medium Lasers. They're in energy mounts, and unless there's literally critical space for two Medium Lasers and nothing else, there will be room to fit a PPC in there.

Again, I'm not talking about the K-2.

Edited by Voyager I, 26 June 2012 - 02:01 AM.

[costi]

Greyrook, on 26 June 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

It shouldn't, the hardpoints on the torso should be restricted to missile weapons in the base variant, regardless of how many slots there are.

The base variant has 4 Medium Lasers in the torso and missiles in the arms...

EDIT: Voyager I beat me to it

Edited by costi, 26 June 2012 - 02:40 AM.

[Point Blank]

Skadi, on 26 June 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

K2 catapult with 2 PPC's 2 Heavy Lasers and 2 Medium Lasers, overheat city here i come.

---HEAT LEVEL CRITICAL---

---SHUT DOWN IMMINENT---

---SHUTTING DOWN---

Aaahh.. nostalgia~

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Point Blank, on 26 June 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

---HEAT LEVEL CRITICAL---

---SHUT DOWN IMMINENT---

---SHUTTING DOWN---

Aaahh.. nostalgia~

---SHUT DOWN OVERRIDEN---

And then you sweat and clench your teeth.

[Fooooo]

Voyager I, on 26 June 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

The Catapult's missile pods are counted as it's "arms". I'm talking about the torso-mounted Medium Lasers. They're in energy mounts, and unless there's literally critical space for two Medium Lasers and nothing else, there will be room to fit a PPC in there.

Again, I'm not talking about the K-2.

I see what your talking about. Why get a K-2 when you can get the stock variant to become one....with lrms to boot.

I guess the main advantage of the K-2 would then be that it can mount more lasers / ppcs than the stock variant as it has extra energy hardpoints in its "arms" and probably the torso maybe.

The other advantage would probably be that the K-2's ppcs can traverse slightly sort of like arms, whereas to make a K-2 from a stock variant your restricted to torso mountings which can only move with your torso and don't really converge either.

However I have no idea if that is actually the case, they might be fixed as if they are torso mounted so who knows about that one.

Edited by Fooooo, 26 June 2012 - 02:54 AM.

[Skadi]

it just hit me... the K-2 may be able to have 4 PPC's O.o

[Fl3tcher]

I keep looking at that Mechlab Vid. . and, I can't help noticing that the mech locations don't have colour coded hardpoints like MW4, but they're more open space like MW3. . . could this be an actual design suite that dosn't use specific hardpoints for certain weapons?

Hunchy PPC carrier anyone?

[Warcorer]

I doubt you can change out the missiles for PPCs, but I hope they have the CPLT-K2K, its the upgraded Cata K2 with 2 ERPPCs & 2 ERMBLs now that would be a nice mech to use