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[HepatitisTK]

Evolvate... how many video games have you made? how many NDA's have you had to put up for any beta testing? if you dont want to spend a dime then dont. its your decision. Dont come on here and make demands of PG like you are a whizz in the industry. I've gotten enough info to shell out the money... hell I think of it in similar terms as a Kickstarter Program. Im willing to support PGs endeavor to get MW back on its feet.

The lack of patience in these forums as of late is disturbing...

[CL_Kodiak]

The issue with this is that the if past has taught us anything - its that the more info people have, the more they can whine about.

This forum is about the most peaceful prelaunch forum I have been a part of, trust me, the more info the more problems. You can not hope to please all the gamers out there.

[Qayos]

I think the NDA should stay for now, I'm trusting the Devs to make a great game, I'll trust them when to drop the NDA too.

[Dark Severance]

NDA's are usually lifted when a game goes from Closed Beta to Open Beta. That is a pretty much a standard practice in games.

[Keizer]

Evolvate, on 26 June 2012 - 04:48 AM, said:

Devs,


At this point the NDA is more of a hindrance to the initial success of this game than a help in controlling rampant over-expectation - let loose the dogs, drop some gameplay videos, give us the 911 on mech stats.

it's called 411. thats the information numbr....... 911 is the emergency number

[MC Hammer]

Patience young patawan

[AkuPyro]

I am of mind to have the NDA stay. They are still making changes and tweaking things. Last thing we need is more whining about a game that looks buggy...and you know there will be whining. Give it another month for them to work things out and polish it more. August they may lower it given the time frame they already laid out. Personally I am getting tired of this entitlement BS. We are all excited to have a new MW game, yes, but no need to rush. I paid for the founder pack as I would like to support them in their efforts, yet for me, it will happen when it happens. GLHF

[Daylen]

As much as it pains me to admit, this guy does have a point. I've been following Planetside 2, Guild Wars 2, and MWO, and if it weren't for the super secret SA forums I would know very little about this game. I showed my interest and faith that the game will turn out okay based upon input from my brethren, but I know next to nothing about MWO except from the few bits we've been allowed to see. It would ease my mind, and make me far more likely to continue supporting this game, if I knew more about what was going on. I don't have a problem with bugs or crappy game-modes that never make it out of testing - that's the nature of beta and games soon after release. More information, however, would be nice.

Besides, I want a lot of people to play this game - killing the same scrubs over and over and pounding them into the dirt won't be as satisfying otherwise.

Hail Mittani!

[Cid]

actually, i have to agree with the OP.

it feels strange that NDA is still in effect till the founders offer expires, even though i have trust in the devs it feels a little "shady" to expect a rather large money commitement for a f2p title without giving your customers the ability to make an informed decission.
if you could buy the founders a week or two after open beta start i wouldn't even consider asking for a NDA lift, cause in that case, a little more patience is all that is needed to gather info and decide on buying founders or not, without the pressure of a limited offer under NDA.

i am not here to tell the devs how to make things better from a marketing standpoint, but in my opinion getting rid of the NDA would increase trust in the product and could very well increase income from additional founder sales.

being straightforward and fair is the best approach to build a solid fanbase for a lasting and successful game.

in this case, that translates into "show them what they are paying for"! that is my humble opinion, for what it's worth

[Artifice]

Uh huh, yeah. I think you mean 'the 411', genius. 411 is information, 911 is for emergencies. I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN YOUR COUNTRY AND I KNOW THAT!

An NDA is a contract which protects intellectual copyright, which They own and you do not.

Go on, tell me more about how someone else should protect their hard work.

[FactorlanP]

Kodiak Steiner, on 26 June 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

The issue with this is that the if past has taught us anything - its that the more info people have, the more they can whine about.

^Truth

[Freakiie]

Am I the only who laughs at the "Let me spend my money now or I'll never spend money" attitude? Apparently if the game does turn out awesome, you love it, you got all the information you don't feel like spending money anymore because it's not now? Why are you people in such a hurry to spend your money now?

Let me guess, you all want to take advantage of getting bang for your buck without any risk whatsoever? Sorry, but not gonna happen. The reason why these founder packages are a nice deal is exactly because of this risk. Keep trying though, I bet you can accomplish what the previous 100 topics about this subject couldn't.

[Twisted Power]

OP - "RAAAAAAAAAGE I HAVE SAY IN YOUR BUISNESS BECAUSE I'M THE CONSUMER!"

No, this is America and they run it how they want to *****. Leave them alone and let them do their work

[Risky]

No, the NDA is still very necessary as the game is in a very early stage of beta. At the time the game is highly unpolished and has a lot of material to still be added in before the polishing truly begins.

Viewing the game before this by the mass can lead to opinions being developed that are highly judgmental and unnecessary and can be detrimental to the gaming communities view of it before the game even has a chance.

So I believe it should stay. It keeps the hype.

[Steven Dixon]

This is a F2P game, PGI can't really get away with being 'shady' (i.e. a bait and switch) because the founders program isn't their primary source of income. They are going to make their money from people that are hooked on the game and can't stop playing and are therefor willing to spend money for things like paintjobs, ect. It's a reward for the early adopters. PGI has been fairly open with us IMHO, they have shown us footage and answered many of our questions, if thats not sufficient for you (and I completly understand if it's not $30-$120 is a lot of money) then just wait until the open beta.

The NDA serves a purpose, the game isn't ready for public viewing yet. Many of the same people that are creating the countless threads on how they should let people who pay into the beta right now or get rid of the NDA, ect, are the same people that would be creating threads about how the game is broken and will be a complete failure when they see a bug in the closed beta.

[Daylen]

Oh god, I just realized this guy has been trolling us all. Notice the small little errors which, like elusive tracks, lead us onward. 911 instead of 411; making a new post with the same content as another, even dragging in folks from the other thread to reiterate their positions. Even I, a master of the art, fell for it. Good job, sir!

[Risky]

Daylen, on 26 June 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

Oh god, I just realized this guy has been trolling us all. Notice the small little errors which, like elusive tracks, lead us onward. 911 instead of 411; making a new post with the same content as another, even dragging in folks from the other thread to reiterate their positions. Even I, a master of the art, fell for it. Good job, sir!

Wasn't intended.

[Trevnor]

Twisted Power, on 26 June 2012 - 06:59 AM, said:

OP - "RAAAAAAAAAGE I HAVE SAY IN YOUR BUISNESS BECAUSE I'M THE CONSUMER!"

No, this is America and they run it how they want to *****. Leave them alone and let them do their work

Actually, it's Canada

[Risky]

Woops. Didn't mean to post this.

+1

Edited by Risky, 26 June 2012 - 07:20 AM.

[Mota Prefect]

The NDA is there for good reason. PGI is doesn't want their product shown to the general public yet, hence why it is there. Its not like they are producing vaporware or false promises that some dev companies would ( Blizzard, Activision, EA, etc. ) Closed beta has already started and open beta isn't far behind. Have patience, its not too much longer til open beta is here, besides if you want to play that bad, you should purchase a founder's package so you know for sure what day you'll be playing.

P.S. 411 is for information, 911 is for emergency