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[Hawk819]

Here's what I want in my new rig:

5930k overclocked to the 4.4Ghz
24GB DDR4 2133 Ram
x2 EVGA GTX 780 Ti w/m current (GTX 760) as the dedicated PhysX
G1 Black Edition X99 MB
Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 1000W
Everything else is just standard.

So my question are: Am I going overboard with this? How can I save some Cash with a different set up using those two cards? Is the 5820k a good buy for this setup? Thanks for looking at this.

[Rogue Jedi]

that is a realy powerful system, it will run MWO fine and should be fine running any game corrently on the market.

MWO is more processor based than GPU based, the rig you have planed should run the game at max resolution and graphics without trouble but half the RAM and only 1 GPU would be sufficient, you would still get about the same results with MWO.
also the 1KW (1000W) PSU is probably overkill (especially if you only use 1 GPU, a 750W should be plenty

you make no mention of the primary drive but I suggest making sure you get an SSD, for faster loading times and to ensure the Hard Drive is not a bottleneck

[Kmieciu]

I've got a i5 2500K 3.3 Ghz processor. Recently upgraded from GTX460 to GTX660 Ti.
3Dmark 2011 shows 2.5x more performance (3500 -> 9000 points).
And what about MWO?
Had 40-60 fps, after upgrade 40-60 fps. LOL.
This game does not take advantage from high-end graphics cards. But at least now I can play Far Cry 4 with ultra settings. And I do, instead.

Edited by Kmieciu, 08 December 2014 - 12:32 AM.

[Hawk819]

Well, World of Tanks, I'm getting FPS around 20-30 with my GTX 760. I want to use a good CPU for the right price. From what I've seen, it's looking more like the 4790k will be a better choice for this build. I also want to use a SSD. Sorry, forgot to add that to the previous message. I'm thinking Intel for that. Maybe, ScanDisc.

I'll add a 2 TB Hard Drive to the mix. I got Three regular HDD: 800GB and 2 160GB. Maybe a 4TB will work with this build. I hope.

I'm finding that overclocking for a gaming rig is not a good option just for a gaming rig. Someone tell me if I'm right or wrong about this. Appreciate it.

As for the rest, I've decided against a Dedicate Phys X card. I've been told it's a bed idea and not a good option.

Any thoughts on the Motherboard? I'm leaning to the Gigabyte boad, my friend wants me to get a Asus. Is he wrong about that? Or is he right. Thanks for the input on this. Appreciate any advice I can get for everyone. Thank you.

[Rogue Jedi]

most of my builds have used Gigabyte but that was mostly conicidance, at the time they were just offering the best value for my requirements, my current PC is almost 4 years old so I cannot attest to their build quality at current but I would have no problem with using Gigabyte boards when I replace that PC probabaly in 6-9 months time.

the manufacturer does not realy matter just so long as you get the features you need. If someone you trust has suggested a paticular board and it fits your requirements you may as well go for it, otherwise check online reviews for the specific board you are concidering (not just the manufacturer)

[Katotonic]

I built my computer about 6 months ago.

i-5 4670k (not currently overclocked so just 3.4ghz)
MSI g45 mobo
PNY 4G 770 nvidia GPU
8GB ram
250GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD
Seagate 1 TB HD
750 Gold Corsair PSU

For MWO, with pretty much all graphics set to max (except particles which are on med) I regularly get 80-100 fps in non-combat and 40-60 fps in brawls/heavy combat.

So you would be definitely looking at a bit of overkill if this is just for MWO. That said, you should be able to rock pretty much any game out there on ultra settings for the next year or more. My only regret is I only got 8GB of RAM as I have discovered that with these specs I like to run too much #*$& at once because I can (mostly) get away with it. So with a top of the line build like you are looking at I would go for 16GB RAM (although the advantage of going for 2133mhz is not worth the money in my opinion. I might consider it if there was a good deal on 1800 or something else faster but not just for the sake of having faster RAM). There really isn't that much need these days for more than 16GB unless you are running heavy photo or video editing in the background at the SAME time you game.

I would whole-heartedly recommend the Samsung Evo SSD if you are looking for suggestions there. MoBo... any of the major brands should treat you right quality-wise. Just look for what options you want and then find or wait for a good deal.

One a side note for building a computer, check out pcpartpicker.com. You can put in all the build parts you are looking at and it will tell you the cheapest place to get them. Even if you don't order from all the different places you can use it to get them to price-match. It probably saved me ~$500 on my build.

Good luck. Let us/me know if you have any questions or if I can help. And tell us how it goes and what you end up with!

[Durant Carlyle]

Hawk819, on 07 December 2014 - 09:32 PM, said:

Here's what I want in my new rig:

5930k overclocked to the 4.4Ghz
24GB DDR4 2133 Ram
x2 EVGA GTX 780 Ti w/m current (GTX 760) as the dedicated PhysX
G1 Black Edition X99 MB
Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 1000W
Everything else is just standard.

So my question are: Am I going overboard with this? How can I save some Cash with a different set up using those two cards? Is the 5820k a good buy for this setup? Thanks for looking at this.

Are you going overboard? Yes.

I'm of the opinion that SLI is too much hassle for not enough performance gain, especially at single-monitor resolutions. Triple-monitor setup maybe.

My recommendation:

5820K CPU
Whatever X99 Mainboard
16GB quad-channel RAM kit
GTX 980 GPU (ASUS Strix or Gigabyte G1 Gaming)
Quality 600 or 650 PSU (Seasonic, Corsair HX or AX)

[Summon3r]

going overboard? absolutely on the gpu side

why not a 970 or 980? if your really hung up on sli 2 970's? or 2 980's if $$ isnt an issue which it seems it is not.

[JC Daxion]

I run an I-5, 3350 3.10, 8 gigs ram, win 7 64, and a TI550.. i get around 40FPS.. so yea.. way overboard.. save money on half the ram and one vid card and you still should be golden, heck maybe even drop the chip a bit to something a bit more affordable..

go on over to www.tomshardware.com and find out the latest Bang for your buck systems.. The guys there know how to make the best system for every budget

[Durant Carlyle]

To give you a further idea of what runs MW:O well, here's the system I built in October...

Corsair Carbide 200R windowed case
Seasonic SS-550 power supply
Intel i5-4690K CPU
ASUS Z97 Maximus VII Gene mATX mainboard
Corsair Vengeance LP 4x 4GB 1600 9-9-9-24 RAM
Zotac 980 AMP! Omega 4GB GPU
Crucial MX100 512GB SSD
ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-Ray writer
Acer XB270H Abprz 27" 1920x1080 144Hz G-Sync monitor

In-game settings maxed out. Nvidia control panel settings geared towards quality.

Every map starts out 100+ FPS. Dips down to 50 FPS or so momentarily during heaviest combat, but still buttery smooth due to G-Sync.

[Hawk819]

Well, for me , it's hard to settle on one CPU. However, I found out (And I'm not entirely sure if he's right) that a dedicated Phys X is not warranted. Still, I'll go that route anyway just to cover my arse in case he's wrong. I still want the SLi, not for running this game but rather running the more higher end games like Batman Arkham Knight coming in May 2015. The Memory I've settled for the DDR 4 Kingston Hyper X Genesis @ 2133MHz, I may go 2400, if money allows me to. If not, then may be Corsair.

I do want a SSD. I'm caught between Intel, Samsung, or ScanDisc. But I know it it'll be good enough to run my OS from that for a quick start up.

As for HDD, no question about it: Western Digital 4TB Green. It'll give me the space I need to run my games. Plus, I can take the 800GB and move it as a secondary HDD.

Motherboard: Rampage IV, which one, I'm not entirely sure. I'm hook on the G1 Black Edition. I'll have to learn it's features.

CPU: Again, it's a tough choice for me, I'm leaning towards the 4790K i7.

GPU: I'm sticking with the 780 Ti SLi setup. As I said above, with my current GTX 760 rigged in as the dedicated Phys X. I can take it offline in the GeForce Nvidia Panel if it proves to be that this guy is right.

Hopefully, everything will go off without a hitch.

[bar10jim]

Kmieciu, on 08 December 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

I've got a i5 2500K 3.3 Ghz processor. Recently upgraded from GTX460 to GTX660 Ti.
3Dmark 2011 shows 2.5x more performance (3500 -> 9000 points).
And what about MWO?
Had 40-60 fps, after upgrade 40-60 fps. LOL.
This game does not take advantage from high-end graphics cards. But at least now I can play Far Cry 4 with ultra settings. And I do, instead.

That looks about [roughly] about right for that CPU. I'm betting you're CPU bound, so a bigger GPU won't help.

[Durant Carlyle]

Hardware PhysX is not warranted, unless you know specifically that you will be playing PhysX-enabled games. Very few are -- it just never took off like it was supposed to.

Running a small SSD for your OS and a platter hard drive (ESPECIALLY a Green model) is stupid. You won't see anywhere near the performance boost going that way as with a big SSD (256GB minimum, 512GB preferred) that can house your games too. The primary benefit to SSD is loading times, and when your games aren't on the SSD they don't benefit at all from this. Besides, unless you have a HUGE library of games, 512GB should be more than enough.

And you definitely want a 7,200 RPM platter drive. Stay away from the Green crap, as it's likely 5,200 or 5,400 RPM both of which are slower than molasses in January. Loading times on performance platter drives suck. Loading times on those drives would be double-suck. Platter drives are data-storage devices nowadays. SSDs are for OS and programs/games.

Crucial MX100 512GB SSD was $210 when I bought it in October. It's one of the faster models, and definitely one of the cheapest. Sacrifice the 2400 RAM to get the bigger SSD -- you will definitely notice big speed increase there, whereas 2400 versus 2133 RAM isn't noticeable by anything but a benchmark. In real-life gaming, RAM speed really doesn't matter much.

If you really are planning to just do the SSD for the OS, don't bother. The speed increase isn't enough to justify the cost of the SSD. Just use a fast (7,200 RPM) platter drive like a Seagate Barracuda, or even one of those VelociRaptors from WD.

What's your intended screen resolution, Hawk? Single-screen res like 1920x1080 or 2560x1440 don't need more than one GPU. It's only when you get to multi-screen res or 4K that you need multiple GPUs.

Edited by Durant Carlyle, 09 December 2014 - 09:03 PM.