Marack Drock, on 01 December 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:
Luke Skywalker endangered the entire galaxy by going to Darth Vader and risking getting killed thus ending the Jedi for good (no other canon so Yoda would be the last and would die within the next year).
That depends on whether you consider the Empire a threat to the galaxy or not, or that any resistance against the Emperor would have died with Luke or the Rebel Alliance. Both would be hyperbole.
But even from a rebel PoV, Luke considered going to Vader a worthwhile attempt. For what it's worth, it the "fate of the galaxy" hinged on his survival, he should've probably locked himself in some shed on Tattooine like Kenobi did, but then again he wouldn't be of much use to the Rebellion, would he?
Also, Yoda told him not to go, and Obi-Wan even lied about Vader being his father. Those two were members of the Jedi Order, Luke was not. So who are you criticizing here, exactly?
Marack Drock, on 01 December 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:
Leia got her whole Homeworld annihilated because she wouldn't tell them that a droid had the information they wanted. Not questioned for that even though billions died.
Technically, Leia did everything she could to prevent the destruction of Alderaan. Yes, she lied, but Tarkin did not know that and still ordered the superlaser to fire, before he ordered ships to be sent to the location she had provided.
Maybe you should rewatch the original trilogy, too.
Besides, Leia's actions as a politician, long before anyone knew of her potential in the Force, could hardly be used as criticism against the Jedi Order.
Marack Drock, on 01 December 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:
Kyp Duron blew up a planet and his brother... He became a Jedi Master and was not punished.
Technically, that's more of a failure by the New Republic government. Luke was an idealist and perceived Kyp to have "turned back from the Dark Side" - perhaps you could say that Luke saw Good Kyp and Bad Kyp, and didn't want to punish the former for something the latter did. For what it's worth, I certainly found that puzzling as well, even
if Carida could be called a military target (like the Death Star).
But it is also worthy of note that Luke's new Jedi Order is not the Jedi Order of the Galactic Republic. They may all be Jedi, but they have different traditions and regulations. Personally, I consider the Old Republic version to be more orderly and disciplined, and producing notably fewer whack-jobs who finish training half-corrupted by the Dark Side due to greater emotional freedom.
The old Jedi Order is like the Circle of Mages in Dragon Age. Regardless of whether we're talking about fantasy or space mages, these people need rules to not become a danger to others. Yes, the old Order had a massive screw-up with Anakin, but given the circumstances and the long time of its existence, that is nothing compare to Luke's Academy churning out Dark Jedi like it's some sort of alternate class there. From the guy who blew up Carida all the way to the man who ordered Republic starships to nuke Chewie's homeworld.
Marack Drock, on 01 December 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:
But according to the old lore Obi Wan, Qui Gon, and many others fell in love and they were never questioned for it. So again hypocritical of the Jedi Order.
Not that many - and it was certainly discouraged against. That being said, I also wouldn't be surprised if Anakin got special attention due to being their "Chosen One".
Marack Drock, on 01 December 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:
I could go on and on because the Jedi are... no better than the Sith. They live on lies and double standards.
Oh, I don't intend to defend the Jedi. I roleplay an Imperial and could even supply further criticism against them.
But that doesn't mean that I have to agree with what I perceive as
unfair accusations against either them or the solidity of the background.
The "better Jedi" are the
Imperial ones, anyways.
Marack Drock, on 01 December 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:
Well then I am lost. Cause I never read those. I never got heavy into the lore mainly I only got the Han Solo Trilogy, the New Jedi Order, the ones with Kyp Duron and Suncrusher, Rogue Planet, and Labyrinth of Evil.
Han Solo at Star's End? That was an amazing story. Goes to show that you don't need lightsaber-wielding Mary Sues to have a good read.
Not that each Force-user does necessarily conform to the special snowflake stigma ... but arguably it's a huge risk that takes a good writer to circumvent.
Personally, I would recommend taking a look at the Legacy comics. Set even further in the future, with a notably different geopolitical makeup of the galaxy.
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