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[Malcolm Vordermark]

Good_Cat, on 02 December 2014 - 08:04 PM, said:

There is enough for Quad Guass 60 pinpoint at 1km plus no longer the realm of DW now.

It wouldn't be 60 at 1km because damage drop off starts at around 660m. Also, you can only charge two at once. There is a reason we don't see that build on Dire Wolves.

Additionally IS Gauss uses 7 of the 10 open crits in that arm. So that wouldn't fit either.

Edited by Rouken, 02 December 2014 - 08:14 PM.

[Greenjulius]

Shiroi Tsuki, on 02 December 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

Just pray that the other variants don't get any Ballistic hadpoints on the LT/RT. We don't want an AC/60 or an AC/80 King Crab

If you even had the slots on the side torsos, that would be 56 tons and no possibility of used endo, FF, or XL engines. You'd be stuck with a STD250 and around 3 tons of ammo if you stripped a lot of armor.
21 shots wouldn't be enough, although it would be fun to chainfire.

And anything over 2xGauss is a waste of time now because of the desync. The 7 slots are too big to double in the arms anyway.

Edited by Greenjulius, 03 December 2014 - 03:48 PM.

[Redshift2k5]

They will probably all have a base complement of 2 ballistic (arms), 1 energy (rt) and 1 missile (lt) with each variant receiving extras of one of the types.

Four ballistics in the arms was always a possibility,and since the base stock mechs offer very little differentiation, seems pretty clear to me that one of them will have 4x ballistics in the arms.

None of the variants move any ballistics into the sides and that would be very out of character for PGI to do so.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 02 December 2014 - 08:16 PM.

[Arjohan]

EDIT: Spoiled some content of useless info, bad comprehension from my part. Thanks for pointing that out =P

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Just pointing one thing: in 3052 there is a version that uses dual gauss, as it says in Sarna.net: "ComStar's techs replaced the twin autocannons with two M-7 Gauss Rifles and four tons of ammo in the arms"... This gives 7 crits (Gauss) + 4 crits (4 ammo magazine), so it MAY be of 11 crits since it also says that it replaced the twins... So, we MAY get 11 crits as well in this one ( King Crab KGC-000).

In any way, this 'mech will be very... Interesting. Also, note that it can be 6 ballistics in the arms, the CN9-AH have only 2 points pointing out where the barrels are and when you put one extra it puts it a little higher than the second one... Just saying, this will be a very interesting 'mech....

Edited by Ryon Kerensky, 03 December 2014 - 03:22 PM.

[pwnface]

AC40 + 2PPC please

[Mitsuragi]

Ryon Kerensky, on 03 December 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Just pointing one thing: in 3052 there is a version that uses dual gauss, as it says in Sarna.net: "ComStar's techs replaced the twin autocannons with two M-7 Gauss Rifles and four tons of ammo in the arms"... This gives 7 crits (Gauss) + 4 crits (4 ammo magazine), so it MAY be of 11 crits since it also says that it replaced the twins... So, we MAY get 11 crits as well in this one ( King Crab KGC-000).

Math fail. 2 tons per arm is 2 + 7 = 9 (of 10 free)

[pwnface]

Mitsuragi, on 03 December 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Math fail. 2 tons per arm is 2 + 7 = 9 (of 10 free)

That's not so much of a math fail rather than a reading comprehension fail. Four tons of ammo in the arms = 2 tons per arm not 4 in each arm.

[0bsidion]

LordKnightFandragon, on 02 December 2014 - 07:35 PM, said:

4AC20s? Really small engine, less armor, the first Annihilator....lol...

The first mech able to reliably 2 shot a DW.

You wouldn't get 2 alphas off, the ghost heat from the first volley would shut you down if not cause an engine explosion outright. Ghost heat from AC/20s ramps up pretty quick.

[Arjohan]

pwnface, on 03 December 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

That's not so much of a math fail rather than a reading comprehension fail. Four tons of ammo in the arms = 2 tons per arm not 4 in each arm.

Mitsuragi, on 03 December 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Math fail. 2 tons per arm is 2 + 7 = 9 (of 10 free)

EDIT: Fixed some stuff... Information no longer useful in spoiler

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Hum... Well, this explains alot >.> Thanks then o/ But it still doesn't answear how they put LBX20 by only upgrading the AC/20s... (For those who doesn't know, each LBX20 uses 11 crits)

Edited by Ryon Kerensky, 03 December 2014 - 03:21 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Ryon Kerensky, on 03 December 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Hum... Well, this explains alot >.> Thanks then o/ But it still doesn't answear how they put LBX20 by only upgrading the AC/20s... (For those who doesn't know, each LBX20 uses 11 crits)

Crit splitting, which MWO does not currently support.

More than likely, they will remove the hand and LAA to allow for AC20s to fit, giving it 10 slots.

[Kiryuin Ragyo]

pwnface, on 03 December 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

AC40 + 2PPC please

AC40+2LPL plus SDR-5D with ECM on the back... steamroller mech is ready to rock your socks off!

[Arjohan]

Mcgral18, on 03 December 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

Crit splitting, which MWO does not currently support.

More than likely, they will remove the hand and LAA to allow for AC20s to fit, giving it 10 slots.

Hum... Interesting... Well, this solves some things that I had in my mind, thanks ^^

PS: I'll make change some stuff in my original post. Thanks everybody for "fixing" it for me o/

[Odanan]

About the variants:

Odanan, on 03 December 2014 - 03:25 PM, said:

In case someone don't know how the King Crab variants will be, I bet on this:

KGC-000 (or KGC-0000, the stock variants are almost identical)
RA 2b
RT 1e
LT 1m
LA 2b

KGC-0000 (or KGC-000)
RA 1b
RT 2e
LT 2m
LA 1b

KGC-010 (if not replaced by a "PGI variant")
RA 1b
RT 1e,1m
LT 1e,1m
LA 1b

KGC-000b is Star League Royal and will probably not be included.