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[zeta44]

1.uziel
2.cougar
3.ragnarok

(From mechassault)
Which mechs would you guys like to see return from older games?

Edit: flame shield is now active
Edit2: upgraded to double heat syncs to resist possible flaming I may get hit by
Edit3: freed up some space, now carrying extra heat syncs in case of a flamer attack
edit4: (not heat sync related this time) found some old mechs from the 1997 battletech mechwarrior card game, for example the rakshasa a successful inner sphere version of the madcat. i will provide names for the rest of them if you want to see them
galahad (clan)
falcon hawk (inner sphere)
grendal (clan)
watchman (inner sphere)
phantom (clan)

Edited by zeta44, 01 February 2015 - 07:50 AM.

[Glaive-]

Conjurer/Hellhound plsss
Also Shadowcat and MadCat Mk. II

I agree, the Uziel and Cougar would be great to see as well. The Ragnarok will probably never make it in though, since I don't think it's considered cannon.

Edited by armyunit, 31 January 2015 - 10:59 PM.

[FupDup]

I anticipate that this thread will get flamed so hard because of mentioning both Mechassault AND the Ragnarok in one post. You might need this:

[KhanCipher]

FupDup, on 31 January 2015 - 11:00 PM, said:

I anticipate that this thread will get flamed so hard because of mentioning both Mechassault AND the Ragnarok in one post. You might need this:

Mechassault wasn't a bad game on it's own, it just had the unfortunate tie in to CBT and MW (kinda like how Ace Combat Assault Horizon is the ******* child of the ace combat series, except in AC:AH the game was bad all around and it was just CoD in plens)

[zeta44]

FupDup, on 31 January 2015 - 11:00 PM, said:

I anticipate that this thread will get flamed so hard because of mentioning both Mechassault AND the Ragnarok in one post. You might need this:

Don't worry, I have seen the amount of damage flamers output, I'm fine.

[FupDup]

Also, this is probably a controversial opinion here, but I think that the Ragnarok's "Lava Gun" might actually be a really cool and unique weapon if it was made correctly. I'm doing this just as an academic exercise, because it'll never ever happen for better or for worse. Commencing musings...


So we know that the "Lava Gun" fires some balls of plasma, presumably shaped into projectiles via magnetic fields around them. Maybe my space magic fisicks suck hard, but would something like that be subjected to gravity/bullet drop? If so, then that would be an energy weapon which would not fire directly parallel forever like lasers and PPCs do. It might be usable as a full-out artillery weapon because of the parabolic trajectory. An energy-based artillery weapon would be pretty unique and original, actually. It would also have infinite ammo, which would open up the entirely new possibility of perpetual, endless artillery bombardment.

I imagine that it would have much lower tonnage and critslots than traditional Arrow/Long Tom artillery, but at the downside of generating a FUCKTON of heat or something. I imagine it should be at least 10 tons like the Heavy PPC, but no more than 15 tons (11-13 tons happy medium?). Minimum of 15 heat, perhaps as high as 20-25 depending on the damage and other stats. Around 6-8 critslots? Range of at least 900 or so meters.

I'd also rename it to something that sounds manlier, like the Armageddon Cannon or w/e.


/Activate Flameshield

KhanCipher, on 31 January 2015 - 11:04 PM, said:

Mechassault wasn't a bad game on it's own, it just had the unfortunate tie in to CBT and MW (kinda like how Ace Combat Assault Horizon is the ******* child of the ace combat series, except in AC:AH the game was bad all around and it was just CoD in plens)

I played both MA games and had decent fun with them too, but my point is that MA is basically a blasphemous word when talking with more established veterans of the series...

Edited by FupDup, 31 January 2015 - 11:13 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

Definitely the Cougar. I remember the first time I saw a screenshot from MW4. It was similar to this one, showing a Cougar from the side, jump jetting. And its legs were hanging down, feet limp, like a flying bird. I was just mesmerized, because in MW2 the mechs would basically just float around when you activated jump jets.

How can you describe the awesomeness of the Cougar?

• Take the coolest looking Clan light mech, the Puma / Adder.
  
• Replace its head with the cockpit of an F-15 Eagle
  
• Give it jump jets
  
• Replace PPCs with Large Wub wubs
  
• Throw on 2xLRM10 just because you can

Cougar and Shadowcat. When those mechs are released, I may as well sell all my other Clan mechs. Won't be needing them.

[zeta44]

FupDup, on 31 January 2015 - 11:08 PM, said:

Also, this is probably a controversial opinion here, but I think that the Ragnarok's "Lava Gun" might actually be a really cool and unique weapon if it was made correctly. I'm doing this just as an academic exercise, because it'll never ever happen for better or for worse. Commencing musings...


So we know that the "Lava Gun" fires some balls of plasma, presumably shaped into projectiles via magnetic fields around them. Maybe my space magic fisicks suck hard, but would something like that be subjected to gravity/bullet drop? If so, then that would be an energy weapon which would not fire directly parallel forever like lasers and PPCs do. It might be usable as a full-out artillery weapon because of the parabolic trajectory. An energy-based artillery weapon would be pretty unique and original, actually. It would also have infinite ammo, which would open up the entirely new possibility of perpetual, endless artillery bombardment.

I imagine that it would have much lower tonnage and critslots than traditional Arrow/Long Tom artillery, but at the downside of generating a FUCKTON of heat or something. I imagine it should be at least 10 tons like the Heavy PPC, but no more than 15 tons (11-13 tons happy medium?). Minimum of 15 heat, perhaps as high as 20-25 depending on the damage and other stats. Around 6-8 critslots?

I'd also rename it to something that sounds manlier, like the Armageddon Cannon or w/e.


/Activate Flameshield


I played both MA games and had decent fun with them too, but my point is that MA is basically a blasphemous word when talking with more established veterans of the series...

Un ending bombardment huh? Sounds like something new to fear. I remember hating getting hit by the "lava cannon" lots of damage though it would put a lot of pressure on your mechs capability to handle heat, I recall the hellbringer also carrying a gun similar to it but only shooting one blast at a time, also MA is where I first started with these games, unfortunately by saying that I know need to upgrade my flame shield don't I?

[FupDup]

Alistair Winter, on 31 January 2015 - 11:13 PM, said:

Definitely the Cougar. I remember the first time I saw a screenshot from MW4. It was similar to this one, showing a Cougar from the side, jump jetting. And its legs were hanging down, feet limp, like a flying bird. I was just mesmerized, because in MW2 the mechs would basically just float around when you activated jump jets.

How can you describe the awesomeness of the Cougar?

• Take the coolest looking Clan light mech, the Puma / Adder.
  
• Replace its head with the cockpit of an F-15 Eagle
  
• Give it jump jets
  
• Replace PPCs with Large Wub wubs
  
• Throw on 2xLRM10 just because you can

Cougar and Shadowcat. When those mechs are released, I may as well sell all my other Clan mechs. Won't be needing them.

[Buzzkill]

The Cougar would actually be really weak in MWO because it goes at 89.1 kph (for a 35 ton light mech) while only getting 1.5 tons more pod space than the Adder.

[/Buzzkill]

I do want to like the Cougs but ultimately it would be fighting a major uphill battle.

[zeta44]

Alistair Winter, on 31 January 2015 - 11:13 PM, said:

Definitely the Cougar. I remember the first time I saw a screenshot from MW4. It was similar to this one, showing a Cougar from the side, jump jetting. And its legs were hanging down, feet limp, like a flying bird. I was just mesmerized, because in MW2 the mechs would basically just float around when you activated jump jets.

How can you describe the awesomeness of the Cougar?

• Take the coolest looking Clan light mech, the Puma / Adder.
  
• Replace its head with the cockpit of an F-15 Eagle
  
• Give it jump jets
  
• Replace PPCs with Large Wub wubs
  
• Throw on 2xLRM10 just because you can

Cougar and Shadowcat. When those mechs are released, I may as well sell all my other Clan mechs. Won't be needing them.

Loved the cougar, if it gets released I guarantee it will be my first preorder.

[Mcgral18]

FupDup, on 31 January 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

[Buzzkill]

The Cougar would actually be really weak in MWO because it goes at 89.1 kph (for a 35 ton light mech) while only getting 1.5 tons more pod space than the Adder.

[/Buzzkill]

I do want to like the Cougs but ultimately it would be fighting a major uphill battle.

On the plus side, it does gain more hardpoints.

Gauss and SPLs?

[Alistair Winter]

FupDup, on 31 January 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

[Buzzkill]
The Cougar would actually be really weak in MWO because it goes at 89.1 kph (for a 35 ton light mech) while only getting 1.5 tons more pod space than the Adder.
[/Buzzkill]
I do want to like the Cougs but ultimately it would be fighting a major uphill battle.

I have the AWS-8Q as my favourite mech, and it's been my favourite mech even when PGI nerfed the PPCs and left it to rot until the Quirkening. Basically, I played the AWS-8Q before it was cool. I don't necessarily care too much about what mechs are weak in MWO, if they've got enough cool factor.

But I do think the joy of playing a speedy little light mech shaped like a Macross Gundam-jet kind of diminishes when you can't even outrun assault mechs. I'll give you that.

[LordKnightFandragon]

FupDup, on 31 January 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

[Buzzkill]

The Cougar would actually be really weak in MWO because it goes at 89.1 kph (for a 35 ton light mech) while only getting 1.5 tons more pod space than the Adder.

[/Buzzkill]

I do want to like the Cougs but ultimately it would be fighting a major uphill battle.

Yeah, in MWO, where PPFLD lolphas are king.....

[Triskelion]

KhanCipher, on 31 January 2015 - 11:04 PM, said:

Mechassault wasn't a bad game on it's own, it just had the unfortunate tie in to CBT and MW (kinda like how Ace Combat Assault Horizon is the ******* child of the ace combat series, except in AC:AH the game was bad all around and it was just CoD in plens)

My hatred for assault horizon is infinite.

[Corbenik]

Uziel,Cougar,Cauldron Born,Fafnir,BUSHWACKER!

[xVLFBERHxT]

Executioner / Supernova

[SgtMagor]

Mw4 Cougar was one nasty little bugger, 3erll jump jetting 130kph light mech that can crouch low enough that even on a barren patch of land is hard to see, ultimate light sniper.

[Zergling]

Letsee... mechs I'd like to see include (in order of weight):


Inner Sphere mechs;
Hollander
Toro
Wolfhound
Komodo
Raijin
Starslayer
Bushwacker
Shootist
Lao Hu
Penetrator
Longbow
Akuma
Mauler
Annihilator
Thunder Hawk



Clan mechs;
Piranha
Crimson Hawk
Solitaire
Wulfen
Arctic Wolf
Shadow Cat
Hunchback IIC
Rabid Coyote
Arcas
Cauldron-Born/Ebon Jaguar
Nova Cat
Ryoken II
Warwolf
Bruin
Blood Kite
Kodiak
Kraken/Bane


...and a hell of a lot more I'd like to see ingame.

[Rear Admiral Tier 6]

Cent-AH for c-bills

[Ralgas]