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#21 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:41 PM

Simply put, egos and, disparate agendas would prevent such a simple idea Pimp.

We do temp-tag solo jaguars each evening so they can group easier and then release them from the unit as they are not actual applicants, once the evening of drops ends.

But it is unlikely that units would, even superficially, subborn themselves to even a figurehead unit. Too many differences in outlook on the game, playstyles, lore, play to win attitudes, casual vs comp players and disparate personalities.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:43 PM

View PostTheSilkenPimp, on 15 December 2014 - 03:25 PM, said:

Or we could just make 1 massive unit and have subdivisions. That way you see immediately who's online and where to go.


Yeah 1 mega unit would be nice, formed from A-teams and B-teams, but everyone should accept on that which is pretty much impossible so lets do step by step to get our units closer to eachothers :)



#23 TheSilken

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 05:21 PM

#JaguarPride baby. Let's be the first faction to unite as an actual Clan.

#24 Prussian Havoc

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 06:17 PM

View PostTheSilkenPimp, on 15 December 2014 - 03:25 PM, said:

Or we could just make 1 massive unit and have subdivisions. That way you see immediately who's online and where to go.


I favor this idea.
I chose permanent Smoke Jaguar allegiance.
I have no Unit and have never been a Smoke Jaguar before CW Phase 2.
I am a neutral party I would be willing to stand up a non-Political Overarching Unit, if sufficient interest exists.

I Solo drop for more than 5-6 hours a day, and today found myself defending our sister Clans more than anything else... though the earlier fights to win Turtle Bay were a supremely enjoyable first wave effort.

View PostLukoi Banacek, on 15 December 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

Simply put, egos and, disparate agendas would prevent such a simple idea Pimp.

We do temp-tag solo jaguars each evening so they can group easier and then release them from the unit as they are not actual applicants, once the evening of drops ends.

But it is unlikely that units would, even superficially, subborn themselves to even a figurehead unit. Too many differences in outlook on the game, playstyles, lore, play to win attitudes, casual vs comp players and disparate personalities.


The single biggest hurdle would be Individual ego and pride (something no Smoke Jaguar is in short supply of!)

But on the other hand... who among us would not like to have a clearinghouse from which to round out TeamSpeak-empowered 12-mans whenever we would want to?

There are any number of my fellow Solo Smoke Jaguars that if the Clan's leadership adopted/actively-advocated for an Overarching, Non-Political Unit in order to better coordinate the formation of 12-mans, might just join a collective effort rather than drift away to our sister Clans.

But IMHO it would need to be a near Clan-wide effort to (for a time) shed Unit Tags in support of a clan-wide gaming advantage.

Such an overarching melding of our Clan could also become a unique recruiting and retention tool that just might appeal to a significant subset of Mercenaries and Lone Wolves.

Edited by Prussian Havoc, 15 December 2014 - 06:18 PM.


#25 Damocles

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 06:25 PM

Make a Jaguar Hub (the Tree! xD), via TS or just a forum thread for units to Co-mingle. No overlords, just communication tools.
Kind of how house Steiner made one.

After that just promote it.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 06:30 PM

I propose that we start using combined unit drops with a common TS to help step us towards unity. So an example be would SJR and JGx planning on dropping together on Saturday's from 12-4 with members coming and going as though they were in the same unit. This will make them comfortable with that other unit. Then you can combine them with other units until every unit has combined with all the rest. Once that has been achieved then everyone should feel confident/respect in the other units, and their abilities, which would allow us to finally merge all of the units into a single unified Clan. From there the sky is the limit. Imagine always having a 12 man who's well trained ready to organize and defend/attack where needed to. Our small numbers would be negated through sheer efficiency and coordination

Edited by TheSilkenPimp, 15 December 2014 - 06:35 PM.


#27 Prussian Havoc

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 07:05 PM

Well we just picked up more lucrative contracting terms: http://mwomercs.com/...97#entry4009897

It is not a panacea, but it is a contributing factor when recruiting Individual gamers and Units.

#28 Styxx42

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 07:12 PM

I am really liking this direction.
42nd doesn't have TS, we use Mumble\murmur.

VRF could we get a channel hangout on your TS server?

Sprouticous that is great idea.
Do you want to continue what you started?
I can forward you the 42nd information.

My worry with a thread announcing drops etc it will become so large that people will start skimming and miss important information.
I would personally suggest Announcement threads Sticked and then removed.


I am in full support of an announcement but preparations being done on TS.

In Arma II and III there is officer channels in TS and sub channels. Is that how you are running the TS?
That way everyone is not talking over everyone else.
Galaxy Commander>Colonels>Captains would issue orders to point commanders.
And MechWarriors would only talk among their star and their point commander.
Keep up the great ideas.

#29 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 07:54 PM

View PostTheSilkenPimp, on 15 December 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

I propose that we start using combined unit drops with a common TS to help step us towards unity.



Strana Mechty is already available and in use by some units for this. It is the Clan Hub teamspeak, with 512 slots and free hosting to Clan units.

Feel free to use it either as a hosting site for yourself, an alternate site for your crew and/or the public coordination rooms that are already in use by multiple CSJ affiliated players and units.

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 08:38 AM

SC teamspeak information can be found here: http://csjsc.enjin.com

-VFR

Edited by VFR Pilot, 17 December 2014 - 10:50 AM.


#31 Revis Volek

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 09:14 AM

View PostStyxx42, on 15 December 2014 - 07:12 PM, said:

I am really liking this direction.
42nd doesn't have TS, we use Mumble\murmur.

VRF could we get a channel hangout on your TS server?

Sprouticous that is great idea.
Do you want to continue what you started?
I can forward you the 42nd information.

My worry with a thread announcing drops etc it will become so large that people will start skimming and miss important information.
I would personally suggest Announcement threads Sticked and then removed.


I am in full support of an announcement but preparations being done on TS.

In Arma II and III there is officer channels in TS and sub channels. Is that how you are running the TS?
That way everyone is not talking over everyone else.
Galaxy Commander>Colonels>Captains would issue orders to point commanders.
And MechWarriors would only talk among their star and their point commander.
Keep up the great ideas.



Come by Strana Mechty anytime guys. Free and tons of rooms!

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#32 Sprouticus

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 10:39 AM

It look slike there is already a google doc with a lot of the units and their info (see the thread on the front page). It can be sorted by faction. It may be worth cutting and pasting that with just the info we need in a separate thread. Let me see what I can do.

#33 Dagger6T6

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 03:01 PM

Black Sheep Mercs [BSM] have cast their lot into the Smoke Jaguar clan just to try out our clan legs for at least 7 days. We typically play starting 7pm eastern all the way up to 4am eastern... as we have a more than a few members from lands down under to carry on the second shift. Looking forward to expanding some territory.

#34 Twisted Power

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 04:27 PM

The Rising Wolves are Now Dropping in group and assualting Planets. If interested in Sync Dropping please come to the NGNG Team speak and come down to our channel.

You can use this to quick connect to NGNG.

ts3server://voip01.n1585.hypernia.net?port=9992&password=mechwarrior&nickname=Outreachuser&addbookmark=NGNGOutreach

#35 Prussian Havoc

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 07:42 AM

Been trying to Solo drop in support of Clan Smoke Jaguar attack on Bricchi's Cluster for almost 30-minutes and no luck.

Is the Clan focus somewhere else?

#36 Euphoric1RW

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 07:47 AM

View PostBuzzNL, on 15 December 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

Hail Throtkin,

I theTS invite open to everybody? I am stil looking for an CSJ unit...

Yes, check out one of the TS groups mentioned above and drop and and get to know us.

#37 Styxx42

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 03:25 PM

View PostDarthRevis, on 16 December 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:



Come by Strana Mechty anytime guys. Free and tons of rooms!

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DarthRevis

I did as well as another Clans men.


We tested it and really like it.
(AND WON in Brocoli)
You will be seeing us on there more often now.

Thanks for the information.

View PostDagger6T6, on 16 December 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Black Sheep Mercs [BSM] have cast their lot into the Smoke Jaguar clan just to try out our clan legs for at least 7 days. We typically play starting 7pm eastern all the way up to 4am eastern... as we have a more than a few members from lands down under to carry on the second shift. Looking forward to expanding some territory.

Nice to see a Merc group throw their lot in with us.
(can't roleplay what a Clan warrior feels about Mercs, Pirates or Traders...But I bet you get the idea.)

:)

Edited by Styxx42, 17 December 2014 - 03:29 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 04:11 PM

View PostStyxx42, on 17 December 2014 - 03:25 PM, said:

Nice to see a Merc group throw their lot in with us.
(can't roleplay what a Clan warrior feels about Mercs, Pirates or Traders...But I bet you get the idea.)

:)

Well, the wolf dragoons are merc's but they were sent in as spy's from the clans. Merc groups could fit in as clan spy's while role playing.

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 06:50 PM

Coram Morte, -CM- is participating in drops right now on Brocchi's Cluster. I will keep updating this post with our new Win/Loss

Currently:
Attacking: 2-0
Defending: 3-0

*Now the Ceasefire

It looks like we didn't win the planet.

Edited by Markus, 17 December 2014 - 09:35 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2014 - 09:55 AM

View PostMarkus, on 17 December 2014 - 06:50 PM, said:

Coram Morte, -CM- is participating in drops right now on Brocchi's Cluster. I will keep updating this post with our new Win/Loss

Currently:
Attacking: 2-0
Defending: 3-0

*Now the Ceasefire

It looks like we didn't win the planet.


We will be in force tonight (SA)! We aim to take it and keep it for the Turtles!





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