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#1 CJF Ronin

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:21 AM

Hails, My computer is a few years old now and I am looking to purchase a new desktop or lap. What do you guys recommend for playing MWO, for around 1k. Thank you for any help. CJF Ronin Clan Jade Falcon

#2 Jazzbandit1313

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:28 AM

Well, I just build a new rig for around 1k.

For case, PSU, MOBO, it's completely up to your taste. For graphics card, don't go anything below a gtx760 or r9 280. I'm running a PNY overclocked 760. a new 970 would do you well. no less than 8 gigs of ram. For a processor, if you're building this as a gaming rig, go for an i5. i7 is for content creators and people who need lots of cores. Gaming doesn't ever utilize more than 4 so an i5 is perfect. I use an i5 4670K

If you would like me to post a complete build for you, PM me and I'll do what I can.

Here's a great site for mocking up systems - http://pcpartpicker.com/

Edited by Jazzbandit1313, 15 December 2014 - 08:30 AM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:32 AM

View PostCJF Ronin, on 15 December 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

Hails, My computer is a few years old now and I am looking to purchase a new desktop or lap. What do you guys recommend for playing MWO, for around 1k. Thank you for any help. CJF Ronin Clan Jade Falcon



I recommend building one yourself if you are even only moderately technically inclined.

You can find builds on various sites like Tom's Hardware or Lifehacker, and a large amount of walkthroughs on youtube.


That being said, even if you just buy a branded PC for a game like MWO I highly recommend you go big on the CPU.

#4 Jazzbandit1313

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:36 AM

View PostUltimatum X, on 15 December 2014 - 08:32 AM, said:



I recommend building one yourself if you are even only moderately technically inclined.

You can find builds on various sites like Tom's Hardware or Lifehacker, and a large amount of walkthroughs on youtube.


That being said, even if you just buy a branded PC for a game like MWO I highly recommend you go big on the CPU.

I disagree. Go big on the GPU. the CPU is a big part of performance, but spending another 150$ for an i7 vs. an i5 will get you maybe +5 FPS MAX. spending another 150$ on a GPU will get you at least 20+ say a 980 vs. a 970

#5 Mycrus

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:36 AM

View PostCJF Ronin, on 15 December 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

Hails, My computer is a few years old now and I am looking to purchase a new desktop or lap. What do you guys recommend for playing MWO, for around 1k. Thank you for any help. CJF Ronin Clan Jade Falcon


4690K
Asus ROG M VII Hero
970 STRIX
650W PSU (get a decent brand)
8GB 1600 DDR3 (get a decent brand) -- 16GB if you want to stream
256GBsomething SSD something like crucial M4 if you are on a budget... or a 560GBsomething corsair force LS.. really any SSD now is good enough (as long as you get a decent brand)
2TB HDD (any brand).. bigger if you store moar porn.
Any good ATX Case
Cooler - get a damn cooler master hyper 212x as a minimum dammit... get a good 240mm rad AIO if still have cash...

and overclock that **** or you are better off buying cheap stupid parts...

#6 Jazzbandit1313

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:38 AM

View PostMycrus, on 15 December 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:


4690K
Asus ROG M VII Hero
970 STRIX
650W PSU (get a decent brand)
8GB 1600 DDR3 (get a decent brand) -- 16GB if you want to stream
256GBsomething SSD something like crucial M4 if you are on a budget... or a 560GBsomething corsair force LS.. really any SSD now is good enough (as long as you get a decent brand)
2TB HDD (any brand).. bigger if you store moar porn.
Any good ATX Case
Cooler - get a damn cooler master hyper 212x as a minimum dammit... get a good 240mm rad AIO if still have cash...

and overclock that **** or you are better off buying cheap stupid parts...

How u liking the Strix? was thinking getting either that, the G1 gaming, or the EVGA SC ACX 970

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:39 AM

I STRONGLY suggest checking out LPC Digital

$1300 and I got a laptop that runs Star Citizen on medium-high setting 50+ FPS

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:48 AM

I recommend you don't buy a name brand pc. with 1k you can build yourself a sweet rig, that would not be able to buy from a company for the same money. Oh and also, as always, go Nvidia/Intel. I5-2600k/ gtx 660 ti 3gb, or if you want to one of the new 970s. But a 970 would take up a huge chunk of the budget. Anyone who tells you to dump all your money into one component instead of building a well rounded rig is wrong, don't listen to them.

Edited by lsp, 15 December 2014 - 08:53 AM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:51 AM

View PostJazzbandit1313, on 15 December 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

I disagree. Go big on the GPU. the CPU is a big part of performance, but spending another 150$ for an i7 vs. an i5 will get you maybe +5 FPS MAX. spending another 150$ on a GPU will get you at least 20+ say a 980 vs. a 970

Should never choose an I7 over an I5 for gaming anyway. The I5's perform better for less money.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:55 AM

View PostJazzbandit1313, on 15 December 2014 - 08:28 AM, said:

Well, I just build a new rig for around 1k.

For case, PSU, MOBO, it's completely up to your taste. For graphics card, don't go anything below a gtx760 or r9 280. I'm running a PNY overclocked 760. a new 970 would do you well. no less than 8 gigs of ram. For a processor, if you're building this as a gaming rig, go for an i5. i7 is for content creators and people who need lots of cores. Gaming doesn't ever utilize more than 4 so an i5 is perfect. I use an i5 4670K

If you would like me to post a complete build for you, PM me and I'll do what I can.

Here's a great site for mocking up systems - http://pcpartpicker.com/

Don't agree, gtx 660 is still a good card. Specially for under 200 dollars.

Edited by lsp, 15 December 2014 - 08:56 AM.


#11 Mycrus

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 09:06 AM

View PostJazzbandit1313, on 15 December 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

How u liking the Strix? was thinking getting either that, the G1 gaming, or the EVGA SC ACX 970


Im using 780ti SLI... just helped a buddy put together a rig with the Strix and it is awesome... literally flying off the shelves here... place where we bought it sold 4 cards just before we bought it... very good reviews... best cost to performance ratio for 1080p gaming.

#12 Calh Paw

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 12:35 PM

I just built my custom pc a few days ago for around $1K.

My parts:
ASUS Sabertooth Mark 2 (MOBO)
$150. You can easily get a different, cheaper one and still be just fine.

i5-4690k (I overclocked it to 4.6GHz)
$180 plus tax at Micro Center. There's also the i7-4790k for $250 there.

Noctua NH-u14s (CPU cooler)
$70. Good quality, very effective, quiet air cooler.
Make sure your case is wide enough, because this thing is very tall.

nVidia GTX 660 (2GB memory, stock speed)
Purchased several months ago for $170 (It's cheaper now. $140 after rebates at newegg).
At very high settings, MWO runs at around 65fps 95% of the time, but drops to as low as 40fps on one of the maps, in at least one specific location.
I lowered some of the settings to ensure constant 60fps: effects, particles, and environment to medium, post-processing to low, everything else to very high.
For playing MWO at "Very High" settings, get at least a GTX 760 or an ATI equivalent.
You can easily compare GPUs on GPUBoss.com

Fractal Design Define R4 (case)
$70. There are cheaper cases (around $40) if you don't care about looks or noise.

Corsair CX600 (600 Watt PSU)
$60. Works great. I've been using it for the last 6 months or so without problems.

16GB Crucial Ballistix (2 8GB Memory sticks)
$150. You can get 2 4GB sticks for about half the price and that will be more than enough for gaming.

Windows 8.1 (OEM)
$90

#13 Mawai

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:02 PM

Hi!

Not to be pedantic or anything but there is a forum specifically for hardware discussions and from what I have seen you get pretty good responses there.

http://mwomercs.com/...re-accessories/

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:42 PM

Just wanted to add that I agree that you should build your own gaming rig if you feel you can. It really isn't hard, and is a much better option than buying a "name brand". You will get more for your buck as many have said. If you are wanting a Laptop however, you really don't have that option of DIY.

One point I would like to make here as a custom PC builder for the last 8 years is this, don't buy into the hype of only getting Intel/nvidia products. I have bought both Intel, Nvidia, Amd/ATI and built computers using all of them.

My current main gaming rig is a Amd FX-8350 over clocked to 5 ghz, water cooled, an ATI XFX 7970 3 GB graphics card, 16 gb of DDR3 1866 and a Gigabyte 970 extreme series motherboard. Also have a Samsung 512 SSD for main operating system drive, and games. I use standard 7200rpm Hard drives for storage. This rig handles everything I throw at it, and even with the FPS issues many are having with their rigs since CW has dropped, what ever they might be running, Intel, AMD, I am seeing a little bit of a hit, but my frame rates mostly stay at around 30-45 even in CW. In normal match mode, never see dips below 40 fps, most of the time I am at a steady 60 fps.

Bottom line, do your research, if you can afford going with either brand, make your own choice. Both Intel and AMD are just fine for even this games very stressing effects on rigs. If you don't feel you are able to spec out a system, and build it, install your operating system on it, find a friend or someone that can do it for you that knows what they are doing. I normally charge around $80-600 dollars flat fee on tops of parts to build a computer...depending on how much work is needed to be done, (custom case building, water cooling loops, setting up raid with hardware, not software, etc. etc.) This fee also includes installing the operating system, all drivers for hardware, basic anti-virus like micro soft security free, testing and making sure everything is running smooth. (most basic rigs take around 4 hours to complete.) Good luck, if you need any help PM me.

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 15 December 2014 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 02:01 PM

If you are going to run any decent video card you are going to need an 800 watt power supply silly to run anything less.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 02:25 PM

View PostN0MAD, on 15 December 2014 - 02:01 PM, said:

If you are going to run any decent video card you are going to need an 800 watt power supply silly to run anything less.

This is a misconception. I am running an overclocked non-reference nvidia card and an overclocked CPU and I barely use 3/4's of my 650W PSU. You do not need a beefy power supply unless running more than onevideo card. 500 is a great medium.

Edited by Jazzbandit1313, 15 December 2014 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 02:48 PM

View PostMycrus, on 15 December 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

(get a decent brand)
(get a decent brand)
something something if you are on a budget... something(as long as you get a decent brand)
moar porn.
good

If someone is asking for hardware recommendations to play a game they most likely won't know what decent brands are.


I was going to knock something up on PC part picker but they have the great gaming build which is very similar to what I would have picked and bang on $1k USD.

You could bump the SSD up to 256GB for about $30, just filter by best price to GB and get the first one at your price point or size required.

For the CPU heatsink it's fine but I'd go for the Noctua equivalent myself.

For the GPU, unless you're going to push it the cheapest GTX970 that uses a non standard cooler will do fine. The standard single blower fan design is noisy when it tries to move any relevant amount of air. Alternatively wait for the GTX960 to come out, it will probably be the best bang for buck card when it comes out but the rumors are that release has been pushed back to Q1 2015.


My rig is a 4670k, GTX 970, 8GB of ram. So very similar to the PCPP great gaming build with some different brands and older CPU and Motherboard. MWO runs great with the settings cranked up (havn't noticed the FPS drop in CW that people are talking about), and that's on 1200p rather than 1080p.

View PostN0MAD, on 15 December 2014 - 02:01 PM, said:

If you are going to run any decent video card you are going to need an 800 watt power supply silly to run anything less.

Stop telling lies and get with the times.

Edited by Vezm, 15 December 2014 - 02:49 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:12 PM

View PostJazzbandit1313, on 15 December 2014 - 02:25 PM, said:

This is a misconception. I am running an overclocked non-reference nvidia card and an overclocked CPU and I barely use 3/4's of my 650W PSU. You do not need a beefy power supply unless running more than onevideo card. 500 is a great medium.

Once again.. this is partly true.... the Key to power supplies is making sure you have picked one that is built using quality components and puts out its rated power. A very high quality one rated at 500 watt might be just enough depending on the graphics card one use's, but I would go with a 650 watt and Higher quality one at that to ensure you have some room to play with. Johnyguru is a site that test power supplies and all its components, I have found them to be a very good source when looking at what Power supply you want to pick up.

Point in case, I bought Two different Rosewill Power sources about 5 years ago, The are The RX series, a 750 watt and a 950 watt, they have two fans in them and light up blue with leds. They are very shiny on the outside case, chrome finished. Everyone that I talked to on Tomshardware back when I use to be a active member on that site tried to tell me that Rosewill sucked.... bla bla bla bla. They was very vocal about it, and told me I was wasting my money and risking my rig blowing up. Well, I did a lot of research before I spent the money and bought them from newegg. Johnyguru is the site that I seen the review of this RX model.... and after both the RX750 and the RX950 being opened up and tested, both passed with a higher rating then some of the PSU's that cost a hundred bucks more.

They also noted that after opening them up, Rosewill had used on these models, the same caps and other components that Corsair use's in their high end PSU's. The members at toms would not give up...even after showing them the review and pointing out to them that, Yes, Rosewill has had a shaky history with PSU quality, and they sub out to several other companies to build them... Some are in fact complete junk... but this model was not. Both of these RX models I bought are still powering my gaming rigs to this day. I have not had one issue with them and they are putting out stable power to even my "media" build that I keep on 24/7 and have for the last two years. Check around, do your research, and don't just take someones word at face value on this issue. PSU's are one of the most important things you can spend your cash on when building a gaming rig. Choose wisely and you will have a PSU you can use in your next rig... and maybe even several to come if you go high enough on the wattage you pick. I have found that 650-1000 is pretty safe if you buy a quality one that puts out what its rated at... if you plan to go SLI, or crossfire depending on the cards you go with you will want to consider the higher output ones.

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 15 December 2014 - 03:20 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:27 PM

View PostVezm, on 15 December 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

If someone is asking for hardware recommendations to play a game they most likely won't know what decent brands are.


I was going to knock something up on PC part picker but they have the great gaming build which is very similar to what I would have picked and bang on $1k USD.

You could bump the SSD up to 256GB for about $30, just filter by best price to GB and get the first one at your price point or size required.

For the CPU heatsink it's fine but I'd go for the Noctua equivalent myself.

For the GPU, unless you're going to push it the cheapest GTX970 that uses a non standard cooler will do fine. The standard single blower fan design is noisy when it tries to move any relevant amount of air. Alternatively wait for the GTX960 to come out, it will probably be the best bang for buck card when it comes out but the rumors are that release has been pushed back to Q1 2015.


My rig is a 4670k, GTX 970, 8GB of ram. So very similar to the PCPP great gaming build with some different brands and older CPU and Motherboard. MWO runs great with the settings cranked up (havn't noticed the FPS drop in CW that people are talking about), and that's on 1200p rather than 1080p.


Stop telling lies and get with the times.

Well i just retired a Radeon HD 6990 and upgraded but even on the 6990 the makers recommend a 750w or bigger power supply, yep thats on the box go have a look, my new Radeon also recommends a 750+ power supply, thats recommendations from the manufacturers of the card, so what can i say, i suppose you know beter then they do and im a liar because im telling you what they recomend, but ya i wonder how your warranty on the card would go if you told them "ya some one on internet told me to use a 500w power supply so i neglected your recommendation of 750w, so can i please have a new vid card cause now mine is broken".
Either way after building my own systems (for the last 20 years) with the help of 2 guys that have been in the bizz for 30 years, i still recommend not skimping on a decent power supply, as always its your choice of course but please do read what the manufacturer of your hardware recommends before buying.
good luck.

Edited by N0MAD, 15 December 2014 - 03:31 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:36 PM

X99 motherboard
GTX-980
DDR4 MEM
Intel- 8 core processor





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