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[Legend_]

Why has a Clan Wolf group, CWM, left Clan Wolf, joined Ghost Bears and attacked/taken a Clan Wolf planet? Sounds suspect to say the least.. in-fighting at its worse.

[Asatur]

CWM not Wolves, Jorgenssons in CGB must know about it.
Its Widowmakers and they never was our friends.

[LegoPirate]

Asatur, on 17 December 2014 - 01:33 AM, said:

CWM not Wolves, Jorgenssons in CGB must know about it.
Its Widowmakers and they never was our friends.

widowmaker was clan wolf 3 days ago.

[Walluh]

Wait, a Clan Wolf unit defected to ghostbear and hopped on Ferris?

..Wot?

We absorbed Widowmaker, so yeah, they're Wolves.

Edited by Walluh, 17 December 2014 - 01:36 AM.

[Asatur]

LegoPirate, on 17 December 2014 - 01:35 AM, said:

widowmaker was clan wolf 3 days ago.

They can be signs of any clan, but they never cease to be Widowmakers.

[LegoPirate]

Walluh, on 17 December 2014 - 01:35 AM, said:

We absorbed Widowmaker, so yeah, they're Wolves.

except now theyre listed as CGB and took a wolf planet. which is why us at CGB think it seems really fishy.

Asatur, on 17 December 2014 - 01:36 AM, said:

They can be signs of any clan, but they never cease to be Widowmakers.

k im gonna be honest this rp lore **** means nothing to me.

[Walluh]

If this is some weird attempt to make Ghost Bear look like a bunch of truce breaking ********, or Widowmaker getting mad and deciding to defect because they got absorbed..either way, I don't particularly care. Retake Ferris, and let's get back to Rasalhague. No point wasting resources on..whatever silliness this is.

[Legend_]

The outfits that have been working together in Ghost Bear are... confused, at best, about this whole thing. Wolf should just take back Ferris and, not including PUGS, I'm guessing CWM will be the only group defending it.

[Ax2Grind]

I think Rex laid it out fairly well earlier in this thread...apparently CWM was wolf and they are the ones who switched to Bear to attack Wolf. Between that and the declarations of war from Blitz, and the incursion from Beta Galaxy and threats from Asatur, I think its fair to say that if Wolf wants a cease fire they need to leave CGB territory alone.

Notice we have not yet flexed our collective muscle and swarmed Gustrell, yet we easily denied the attacks ongoing at Elissa. It really is in your best interest to work with CGB. If CWM has a bone to pick over Fenris, that's something you might want to take up with them. It really looks like some factions of Wolf are trying to engineer a prolonged conflict, and I can't see it going well for you at this rate. Attacking Elissa is unacceptable. Continue to attack the Bear and you will lose Gustrell tonight as a demonstration of our collective might. I'm not sure we can be any clearer.

[KuroNyra]

Admiral Beard Al Yankovich, on 16 December 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

After reading his thread I have to say this dude is kind of a joke I would never want him to lead me.

You really are completly ignorant about Gyrok you know?
It's not like everybody could be the leader of one of the more popular Clan Wolf Galaxy/Unit.

The kid wanted a one on one. Gyrok proposed the only kind of duel that only use skill and nothing more. But not, that guy wanted to use his own mech wich he will have selected in order to have the advantage over a Cataphract thus rendering the duel one sided.

Sorry but no. That is not 1 vs 1 are suppose to be. Especially between 2 guys using the Clans symbol.

[Asatur]

Ax2Grind, on 17 December 2014 - 02:20 AM, said:

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Have a feeling that we are talking with not bears but rams. Guys captured 3 our planets at this moment and accuse in this wolves. No other comments from us and no agreements. Good luck in your show off.

Edited by Asatur, 17 December 2014 - 02:39 AM.

[KuroNyra]

The more and more I read, the more and more I think I'm going to join Clan Steiner or Clan Davion...

[Demiurge]

Less words bears. See you in battlefield.

[Alecxei Malthus]

Neg, the instigator here after referred to as CWM has never been on friendly terms with Clan Wolf, they are by their own admission exiles, a bandit caste. CWM is an offshoot whose roots date back to MW4 NBT days where they splintered off from clan wolf and have been detirmined to cause chaos ever since, i think we can safely assume that CWM has been a Major player in the attacks on clan ghost bear and are now attacking clan wolf knowing that CWI (a lore based unit) will become incensed and rage out towards them. It is also easily seen that Wolf units are attacking Jade Falcon, both CGB and CJF have made statements that they want this far and no farther, shortly afterwards they change their statement saying that Clan Wolf Must appease them to sate their hunger for more. I believe the reactions are completely understandable, concessions were made under the understanding that it was for the betterment of the clan's march toward Terra.

however an unforeseen consequence of these concessions has happened.

We all can agree that there are pugs in all three clans that will not join coms or accept orders beyond the drop that they are in, There is also the possibility that there are spies in all 3 units, as well as smaller units that are happy to cooperate with the larger ones to achieve their goals but when everything else crashes they happily run back to the shadows. There is also the chance that there are smurf units running around whose members are innersphere freebirths intent on getting us to fight each other.
Once hostilities began between our respective clans the pugs saw that as a green light to never stop, the borders of each clan will always be under pressure of pugs, and though each clan may be able to police their respective units, they will never be able to police smurf units and pugs. it may be a reality that we all do not like but it is something that we must deal with, and whether or not you all realize it, open forum warfare does not help, it only further injures our cause, and creates more hatred towards the participants.
the truth is that the comp teams are bored, they have too many members and not enough worlds to attack at once, this is a problem, and not likely one that pgi will solve soon, with so few worlds available to attack we have fallen back into our own habit of forum warfare, only this time we have a recourse for our hatred fed by the forum flame, we fly off the handle and openly attack the house or clan of the offending person sometimes without thinking of the repercussions. This is a mistake, not only of those that read the forum and were pissed off by the words of an raving idiot snacking on a hot pocket, but also a mistake of the members of the hot pocket eating idiot's unit for not smacking some sense into the idiot.
such idiots cause inflammation and headaches for all those caught in the after blast.
As to the reason for our striking back at Jade Falcon, it is my belief that Clan wolf is tired of being pushed around, ground is given and yet no understanding reached.

It is now more then ever essential for Clan Unit Leaders to draw together and have a forum, for settling differences between units. When i say forum i mean something in the shape of the Grand Council . A teamspeak in neutral space for all unit leaders to gather and set about finding ways to not nuke our own clans in the process of settling differences. because whether we see it yet or not, our own members are in these clans for one of two reasons,

1) to invade the innersphere
to take the fight to the successor states and conquer them into the dust.

2) to fight beside friends as they defeat their enemies.

if they go from fighting units and having fun to a war of atrition where they are force fed to a meat grinder, wolves, ghost bears, or falcons, they will leave.

Instead of us wasting time battling over these worlds in question for days on end. Why do we not settle these issues once and for all, let there be a trial of possession for said world, where there will be a set time of many weeks where the results are uncontested.


While I do not with any right speak for CWI, I do speak for myself these are my own opinions and statements and by no way reflect on the current leadership of Clan Wolf International nor there current policies.

Edited by Alecxei, 17 December 2014 - 04:12 AM.

[ALKALIN3]

Will you ladies lose this RP **** and start pushing south please...if you need help because teams are pushing back faster than you can, ask for it. This whole forum melodrama is as stupid as it gets...

[Gyrok]

There must be an open ceasefire between all clans or we will never take the IS.

[KuroNyra]

Gyrok, on 17 December 2014 - 05:59 AM, said:

There must be an open ceasefire between all clans or we will never take the IS.

Question is, do you consider guys like LORDS or CWM like Clans/Unit?

[ALKALIN3]

KuroNyra, on 17 December 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:

Question is, do you consider guys like LORDS or CWM like Clans/Unit?

If you see a defense is needed on one of your planets, defend it and make note of who it is that's attacking. If its pugs then obviously they don't care and just want a match. If its CWD the handle it with them or handle them. Calling out ALL CGB teams when a ceasefire is called and appears to be broken but turns out to be some ******* trolls is irresponsible at best.

[heimdelight]

I can tell you right now that no one actually cares about lore or your stupid alliances they only care about themselves and everything they can get. I offer for us to have the most logistically sound planet for jade falcon space and fronts in exchange for peace but all of clan wolf seems too stubborn to give up Icar.

Leave Icar or perish before you reach the Inner Sphere.

Regards,
LORD HEIMDELIGHT
ggclose

[speedy mechanic]

chiXu, on 17 December 2014 - 01:23 AM, said:

Why has a Clan Wolf group, CWM, left Clan Wolf, joined Ghost Bears and attacked/taken a Clan Wolf planet? Sounds suspect to say the least.. in-fighting at its worse.

Neg we have been in a 7 day contract from the start of CW and were loyalst before that

LegoPirate, on 17 December 2014 - 01:35 AM, said:

widowmaker was clan wolf 3 days ago.

Also neg but we were wolf more like a month or 2 ago (whenever the last unit faction reset happened)

Now as far as these attacks that took place (purely speaking for myself) I didn't like it but when your only given 2 planets to attack and 1 is full up it sort of limits your options. Now defend you say, well there was never a planet when I looked that had more then 1 attack on it in fellow clan territory. I will also say this how I feel about CW at this time is it's beta and when PGI goes full live I'm expecting a reset of the map or something. We at CWM know very well the lore but in the end it's a game mode in beta and when this is really going we'll be pushing where we need to go (leaving that vage cause due to our large unit we're going to be going to be back and forth IS and clan contracts)