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[lpmagic]

Panzerbjorn, on 17 December 2014 - 09:26 PM, said:

Well we already see your forces wasting time at Ferris again instead of moving on the IS... So really, you tell us?

well, the way this system works is that, early in the day (just after the ceasefire), if you have a planet that has been pledged to be safe from immediate attack, then, it makes sense to turn it early, so that last crazy three hours is not so crazy trying to re-take the "oh I forgot we wanted that back" it is simply being gotten out of the way. Pretty simple maths on that one, done early, move on to smashing any is idiots whom get in our way. simple.

[NAZGUULL]

Neg, their victory in taking Ferris taints all of CGB, It is not the way of the clans to result to attacking from the shadows. Nor is it the way of the Bears. It is a taint that should be expunged! Should CGB ever decide to go after Ferris it will be a straight up fight, as it should be.

CGBI will not interfere with the retaking of Ferris. However, any action past Ferris will be swiftly dealt with .

[Speerit Ward]

sansDaedalus, on 17 December 2014 - 10:14 PM, said:

CGBI also intends to leave Ferris to the Wolves, but be warned: any further encroachment into our territory beyond that will be met harshly.

Probably seen this posted in this thread 30 times now.

You guys REALLY dont have to worry about that. We have NO interest in fighting other clans.
We have NEVER HAD any interest. Our attacks, or at least CWI's/ GK's attacks, have always been retaliatory.

When Ferris is back in our bubble, we're looking toward Terra. We will keep swatting the noisy falcons for as long as they want to keep wasting their time attacking us. But if they take any planets from us, it will be because we were too busy restoring the Inner Sphere to care...

[Aresye]

sansDaedalus, on 17 December 2014 - 10:14 PM, said:

CGBI also intends to leave Ferris to the Wolves, but be warned: any further encroachment into our territory beyond that will be met harshly.

Thanks (and to MercStar) for taking the time to negotiate this during a rather hectic day for us Wolves. I will personally ensure our newer players understand this.

Can't promise anything for the solo pugs that aren't a part of any unit, but we will not assist them if they try to attack further, so (albeit while annoying) they should be easy work to fend off. We are very much eager to continue our march towards Terra, instead of playing these stalemate games.

[Kalendra RA]

Speerit Ward, on 17 December 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

Probably seen this posted in this thread 30 times now.

You guys REALLY dont have to worry about that. We have NO interest in fighting other clans.
We have NEVER HAD any interest. Our attacks, or at least CWI's/ GK's attacks, have always been retaliatory.

CWI attacked Elissa right off the bat day one, and only recanted after being curbstomped by Ghost Bear forces both there and on Skallevolle and Outpost, which were annexed in retaliation for unprovoked Wolf aggression. Wolf forces have since harassed Ghost Bear worlds and behaved in a generally antagonizing fashion. It is utterly disgraceful that the Ghost Bear leadership has surrendered Ghost Bear territory in the face of such impudence, no matter how that territory was gained. It can only be hoped that they come to see this for the grave folly it is before Ferris is lost at the end of the cycle; it should be bitterly defended on principle alone, as punishment for Wolf's constant misbehavior.

Edited by SirPseudonymous, 17 December 2014 - 11:18 PM.

[LastKhan]

SirPseudonymous, on 17 December 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

CWI attacked Elissa right off the bat day one, and only recanted after being curbstomped by Ghost Bear forces both there and on Skallevolle and Outpost, which were annexed in retaliation for unprovoked Wolf aggression. Wolf forces have since harassed Ghost Bear worlds and behaved in a generally antagonizing fashion. It is utterly disgraceful that the Ghost Bear leadership has surrendered Ghost Bear territory in the face of such impudence, no matter how that territory was gained. It can only be hoped that they come to see this for the grave folly it is before Ferris is lost at the end of the cycle; it should be bitterly defended on principle alone, as punishment for Wolf's constant misbehavior.

Silly, you act like we are incapable of defending after they take back Ferris. Also the harassment is pugs and groups that have no idea of the ceasefire. I agree with the giving back of their puny planet to finally focus on the IS. There is an entire galaxy to take.

But take note, any further attacks will be met with immediate defense, of course.

Edited by LastKhan, 17 December 2014 - 11:31 PM.

[Speerit Ward]

Pseudo,

That would be compelling, if it wasn't misinformed garbage.

Skallevol was defended until clan leadership told us to stop, midway through, which most of us did, besides a few who weren't paying attention. And outpost was given to you freely.

This was done because it was in your attack corridor, and we respect Clan Ghost Bear. You were given those two planets.

Please don't disgrace CGB Any further with your misinformed garbage...

Its not our fault you're not valued enough to receive the current information... Perhaps if you were of value to your clan as more than someone who trolls the forums and tries to stir stuff up... Dezgra.

You're dismissed. The adults are taking now.

Edited by Speerit Ward, 17 December 2014 - 11:34 PM.

[Aresye]

SirPseudonymous, on 17 December 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

CWI attacked Elissa right off the bat day one, and only recanted after being curbstomped by Ghost Bear forces both there and on Skallevolle and Outpost, which were annexed in retaliation for unprovoked Wolf aggression. Wolf forces have since harassed Ghost Bear worlds and behaved in a generally antagonizing fashion. It is utterly disgraceful that the Ghost Bear leadership has surrendered Ghost Bear territory in the face of such impudence, no matter how that territory was gained. It can only be hoped that they come to see this for the grave folly it is before Ferris is lost at the end of the cycle; it should be bitterly defended on principle alone, as punishment for Wolf's constant misbehavior.

Outpost was agreed upon very soon after CW started that it would be given to the Ghost Bears to assist their attack corridor. I'm not sure where you're getting your misinformation from, but it is wholly inaccurate to what actually happened.

We can't control our unit-less pugs anymore than it appears you can contain your Widowmakers. Both our sides are likely going to see skirmishes from smaller units and pugs, but our large units are going to respect the cease fire.

[Kalendra RA]

LastKhan, on 17 December 2014 - 11:30 PM, said:

Silly, you act like we are incapable of defending after they take back Ferris. Also the harassment is pugs and groups that have no idea of the ceasefire. I agree with the giving back of their puny planet to finally focus on the IS. There is an entire galaxy to take.

But take note, any further attacks will be met with immediate defense, of course.

So far, Ghost Bear hasn't lost a single planet. Do you really want the first one to just be given to Wolf, without a fight, to reward them for their constant treachery and posturing? While we'll follow your lead, I must express the utmost disapproval at just giving it up.

Aresye, on 17 December 2014 - 11:45 PM, said:

Outpost was agreed upon very soon after CW started that it would be given to the Ghost Bears to assist their attack corridor. I'm not sure where you're getting your misinformation from, but it is wholly inaccurate to what actually happened.

But not before CWI launched attacks on Ghost Bear, was beaten into the ground, and realized the only recourse left to them was to roll over and cede those two worlds. I've also heard tell CWI was raiding Elissa yesterday, in a blatant violation of that same agreement. Which of course you'll deny, since it portrays your unit in a bad light, and convenient misinformation is a better company line than the truth.

[LastKhan]

SirPseudonymous, on 18 December 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

So far, Ghost Bear hasn't lost a single planet. Do you really want the first one to just be given to Wolf, without a fight, to reward them for their constant treachery and posturing? While we'll follow your lead, I must express the utmost disapproval at just giving it up.

Indeed we havent and we wont after this particular one. Dont let pride get the better of you comrade. One planet for an entire FRR full of em and of course, the cost if they continue to march forward after that.

Heh! Fallow my lead? im just a reasonable cat mixed up in all this bear / wolf politics.

[Speerit Ward]

SirPseudonymous, on 18 December 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

So far, Ghost Bear hasn't lost a single planet. Do you really want the first one to just be given to Wolf, without a fight, to reward them for their constant treachery and posturing? While we'll follow your lead, I must express the utmost disapproval at just giving it up.


But not before CWI launched attacks on Ghost Bear, was beaten into the ground, and realized the only recourse left to them was to roll over and cede those two worlds. I've also heard tell CWI was raiding Elissa yesterday, in a blatant violation of that same agreement. Which of course you'll deny, since it portrays your unit in a bad light, and convenient misinformation is a better company line than the truth.

Last night attack on Elissa was an intemperate reaction to losing ferris, let there be no mistake however, as soon as it was circulated that CWM was responsible for ferris, we put an all-stop on Elissa.

As for this purported attack on cgb holdings on day 1, I contend that it was NOT CWI. And if it was, it would have been in reaction for you hitting skallevol. But more likely, pugs.

[Tuann]

As i speak for the EU TZ CGBI :

We will let Ferris to the Wolf

Happy IS Hunting Brothers

[Chocowolf Sradac]

Aryse has explained best that there is quite abit of misinformation floating around here as to what has actually happened and actions taken on both sides. Moving forward our intentions is nothing more to retake what is ours. Once our planets have been retaken that were originally ours we have no interest in battling against the clans and would very much would prefer to negotiate the quarrel of the problem so we can resume our push into the IS. however we can not garuntee what our unit-less pugs or other smaller non-lore wolf units not under the CWI banner will do.

I would like to take a moment to thank all the units that have been in discussion. The sooner we can get back to invading the inner sphere and not each other brothers the better

[KuroNyra]

LastKhan, on 18 December 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

Indeed we havent and we wont after this particular one. Dont let pride get the better of you comrade. One planet for an entire FRR full of em and of course, the cost if they continue to march forward after that.

Heh! Fallow my lead? im just a reasonable cat mixed up in all this bear / wolf politics.

Sorry, I just had to place that one. ^^ Personatly, I know I will not participate in attack against others Clans. (But I do support some *evil smile* but I will for sur defend Clan Wolf territory if we are to meet attack from yourside. (Even if I know they will mostly come froms PUGS and guys like Clan WidowMaker.) But if you need defense for your world against the Inner Sphere barbarians. You can count on me and I believe a lot of us.

[Jaroth Corbett]

@Antonius Rex Well said trothkin. I tip my hat to you. You dealt with every single situation in detail giving each unit the time & respect they deserve, not brushing certain ones aside.

@Gyrok You are requesting a Trial of Grievance quiaff? You cannot dictate what chassis the other party will bring. You two can work something out to keep it even, but you cannot tell him exactly what to bring. Additionally this 200m range is not the case when augmented fights take place. You are thinking of unagumented fights where the combatants are right next to each other.

@ various wolves From what I was told this all started when you guys attacked us as soon as CW started, however with this truce in place I trust going forward there will no further incidents. Additionally you all know damn well in the lore the Clans despise mercs & never hired them, this is RL however & we have no control over what faction a merc unit wants to contract with. I can only speak for CGBI members & WILL not be held responsible for another unit who CHOSE to fly our colors.

@all Please keep in mind this is a BETA. There will be information gathering for when CW is actually launched in March. I think that is why everything is so limited. PGI is just trying to see what works & what does not. Also keep in mind that as they have always said, they are not going to hold too much to the lore in that they want us to create our own history, so for the CC & FWL who saw no actual fighting during the invasion in the lore, prepare to be mauled in March.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 18 December 2014 - 03:55 AM.

[Tuann]

Chocowolf, on 18 December 2014 - 03:42 AM, said:

Once our planets have been retaken that were originally ours we have no interest in battling against the

I read correctly that you won't stop with Ferris on taking GB planets? :-) ....

Edited by Tuann, 18 December 2014 - 04:17 AM.

[KuroNyra]

Tuann, on 18 December 2014 - 04:16 AM, said:

I read correctly that you won't stop with Ferris on taking GB planets? :-) ....

I am pretty sur he mean AFTER we (Clan Wolf of course) take TERRA.

[Vincent V. Kerensky]

I know this post will fall on mostly deaf ears but here goes anyway...

There is a lot of misinformation out there... Much hate being spewed out "supported" by "facts" that have no proof. Yet when proof about the opposite is presented, that too fall on deaf ears.

One of the things I have seen much of lately is that Clan Wolf did not own Skallevoll and Outpost from the beginning. This is false. PGI started out CW with lorebased posessions. After that, it is anyones guess what will happen.

Another thing I am tired of is that you got Bears openly apologising for Ferris and saying we can take it, honoring the Ceasefire we got between Bear and Wolf, yet are incredibly quick to show their fangs and claws, threatening with doom should anything else be attempted taken. As far as I see it, Bear have taken more from any other Clan thus far.

Let us stop beating our chests and get this on the road now Quiaff?

[KuroNyra]

Vincent V., on 18 December 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:

I know this post will fall on mostly deaf ears but here goes anyway...

There is a lot of misinformation out there... Much hate being spewed out "supported" by "facts" that have no proof. Yet when proof about the opposite is presented, that too fall on deaf ears.

One of the things I have seen much of lately is that Clan Wolf did not own Skallevoll and Outpost from the beginning. This is false. PGI started out CW with lorebased posessions. After that, it is anyones guess what will happen.

Another thing I am tired of is that you got Bears openly apologising for Ferris and saying we can take it, honoring the Ceasefire we got between Bear and Wolf, yet are incredibly quick to show their fangs and claws, threatening with doom should anything else be attempted taken. As far as I see it, Bear have taken more from any other Clan thus far.

Let us stop beating our chests and get this on the road now Quiaff?

We all know it's Clan Wolverine fault anyway.
Seyla

[Titinus]

There is a saying I hope most of you are familiar with " you keep what you kill" even though Clan Widowmakers is not a preeminent member to clan Ghost Bear they were able to conquer a planet from the Wolves with a training squad. Ghost bears should hold their head in shame with the capitulation of a conquered world which was in effect a trial or possession. Obviously Clan Wolf is incapable of defending themselves either from Jade Falcon, Ghost Bear, or even Steiner speaks volumes as to there viability as a clan. Either Jade Falcon or Bears should consider petitioning the Grand Counsel for a trial of Annihilation of Clan Wolf for their cowardice and ineffective leadership. CWM fought 8 battles on the planet of Ferris and in each of those the resistance of clan wolf was paltry. They are an embarrassment to the clans and swift action should be taken. Clan GhostBear do not be cowed by these dogs in wolves clothing stand up for what is ours and for all our brothers. The wolves use of diplomacy in this forum to get what they want is understandable since they obviously can not take action in the field of battle to accomplish their goals.

Edited by Titinus, 18 December 2014 - 06:06 AM.