45 replies to this topic

[Mike Oakenwall - the khadoran]

Really dont find it fun to fight clan, way to much damage, unbalanced yes!,
Its like you have to play so much better to win.
And i rather have a normal game of mechwarrior, longer fights.

Let me que inner sphere only matches(normal)

I know this has allready happend for community warfare, many dont que vs clans..

[Captain Stiffy]

SPOILER

The Clans LOSE

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Fight the Clans like you would LRM boats. Use cover to close and unleash hell.

[Bishop Steiner]

deanon, on 15 December 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

Really dont find it fun to fight clan, way to much damage, unbalanced yes!,
Its like you have to play so much better to win.
And i rather have a normal game of mechwarrior, longer fights.

Let me que inner sphere only matches(normal)

I know this has allready happend for community warfare, many dont que vs clans..

it's pretty simple....fight on a world the clans are not contesting.

[Monkey Lover]

I have no problem fighting clans its fighting 12 timbers i can't do. They just keep sucking up the damage. Once they turn red core they take another 4 alpha hits lol

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Monkey Lover, on 15 December 2014 - 08:14 PM, said:

I have no problem fighting clans its fighting 12 timbers i can't do. They just keep sucking up the damage. Once they turn red core they take another 4 alpha hits lol

I haven't seen that. I've seen a mix, but not 12 running around at once.

To be honest, the most common mechs I've seen are Kit Foxes, Hellbringers (far more than Timbers), Stormcrows (mostly Stormcrows) and the remainder is a mix of Timbers and Dires.

[InKerenskyWeTrust]

My unit fights almost exclusively on the clan front. They are not that hard to fight.

[superteds]

a quick guide to fighting clans;

1) shoot them

they die just like every robot.

[Mike Oakenwall - the khadoran]

Sorry but math dont lie,
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment


They do alot more dps than ic mechs.
Their weapons hit harder and further even with my quirks.

And this is about normal, not faction warfare where I allready avoid clans,.

More balanced IC vs IC

Edited by deanon, 15 December 2014 - 10:05 PM.

[xXBagheeraXx]

deanon, on 15 December 2014 - 10:01 PM, said:

Sorry but math dont lie, they do alot more dps than ic mechs.
Their weapons hit harder and further even with my quirks.

And this is about normal not faction warfare, i allready avoid clans there.
More balanced IC vs IC

My wubbshe laughs at your statements...first game in a brand new build with only 3 large pulse and 5 medium lasers i got 3 kills and nearly 700 damage...in CAUSTIC...no pilot unlocks or anything. Im sorry m8t, this one is down to pilot skill. My DireWhale is my assault of choice but ic ant tell you how many times some little **** in a firestarter or a thunderbolt sneaks up behinds me and wrecks my crap because its so darn slow, and so easy to spread out the damage. I play a 100 ton mech with an 80 point alpha in DEATHLY FEAR of jenners and locusts. And im pretty decent in the dammed thing.

And have you DRIVEN any clan mechs? you have any idea how much of a pain in the butt heat management is with thier murderously hot running weapons?

[Roland]

Play one of the factions which doesn't border the clans.

[Nauht]

deanon, on 15 December 2014 - 10:01 PM, said:

Sorry but math dont lie,
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment


They do alot more dps than ic mechs.
Their weapons hit harder and further even with my quirks.

And this is about normal, not faction warfare where I allready avoid clans,.

More balanced IC vs IC

Dps being the operative word there but like every other person that wants more nerfs, you gloss over IS weapon advantages.

Clan weapons will hit harder from further.... if you like standing still at over 600m. Sure.

[Mike Oakenwall - the khadoran]

Im going to answer the posts in no specifik order.

So I cant move if I use a clan mech? I cant use an assault if im IC, i have to use a jenner?! great argument.
Its the same except clan stuff are better.
Even the devs agree that clans do more damage, listen to the no guts no galaxy podcast.

All mechs are equal, thats why mech of choise is a dire wolf.. you and everyone else BTW.

Murderous heat?is thats why people can boat 12 c-er med lasers on a medium clan mech?
Weapons that wastly outclass IC-med lasers and more closer to large lasers from IC?

I rather fight IC vs IC until the balance is fixed, otherwise it feels alot like pay to win..

Edited by deanon, 15 December 2014 - 11:20 PM.

[Grantham Besat]

You have no clue..... you melt from 6 erml the stock nova prime is useless. This game punishes the clans with tons of ghost heat and ridiculously long burn times on our beams. Our ac and ultra acs are no ppfld like IS and even our 15 damge erppc was done so that it spreads damage. Its real fun knowing a hot laser boat us always your best choice clan side.

[Mcgral18]

deanon, on 15 December 2014 - 11:12 PM, said:

Im going to answer the posts in no specifik order.

So I cant move if I use a clan mech? I cant use an assault if im IC, i have to use a jenner?! great argument.
Its the same except clan stuff are better.
Even the devs agree that clans do more damage, listen to the no guts no galaxy podcast.

All mechs are equal, thats why mech of choise is a dire wolf.. you and everyone else BTW.

Murderous heat?is thats why people can boat 12 c-er med lasers on a medium clan mech?
Weapons that wastly outclass IC-med lasers and more closer to large lasers from IC?

I rather fight IC vs IC until the balance is fixed, otherwise it feels alot like pay to win..

Good god...so much Bad.

No one takes a Whale in CW, because it costs tonnage and it's a Whale. Hard to use effectively. What you want is easy to use. Whale is not that.

More damage isn't always better; though I suppose it's been normalized for the most part. Remember cERLLs with 2 second burn times? A rather useless weapon; who cared if it dealt more damage, it took twice the time to apply it.

Hey...have you tried that trial NopeVa? Guess what? You can hardly use 6 of those lasers with 20 DHS. Let alone 12. cERLSs are the only way to effectively use those 12 hardpoints; 200M effective range. Good luck getting that close.


But don't let the downsides taint your opinionated view. Ignore them and post ignorance.

PS: At least post the problem chassis', which isn't really the Whale, but the TimberGod and DoomCrow.

[Selene Lunaris]

Only if I can queue non-LRM boat matches.

No?

Oh okay lemme go throw a tantrum and make a thread on the forums about how I don't want to play all of the game, just the bits I like

[Pjwned]

While that might be a nice option outside of community warfare, it would likely make matchmaking a hassle for everybody.

[Lily from animove]

deanon, on 15 December 2014 - 11:12 PM, said:

Im going to answer the posts in no specifik order.

So I cant move if I use a clan mech? I cant use an assault if im IC, i have to use a jenner?! great argument.
Its the same except clan stuff are better.
Even the devs agree that clans do more damage, listen to the no guts no galaxy podcast.

All mechs are equal, thats why mech of choise is a dire wolf.. you and everyone else BTW.

Murderous heat?is thats why people can boat 12 c-er med lasers on a medium clan mech?
Weapons that wastly outclass IC-med lasers and more closer to large lasers from IC?

I rather fight IC vs IC until the balance is fixed, otherwise it feels alot like pay to win..

people like you deserve an ingame bug making them stuck with the Nova for 100 matches. I swear when the bug is over you wanna go and make babies with your jenner.

but that things said, try to truly pilot that trial nova for like 50 games. Get out of your box of wrong guesses and imaginations an step into the real world and see how epic the thing you claim really are.

Also, your MATH DOES LIE. because you can't even math. every mech has a heattreshold, and this is what you can use to make damage, And IS lasers are better dmg/heat weapons. So from that point math owns the clanners. Now its up to the pilot using that strenght, but when I see CW where IS pilots try to fire their ML from the gates to me 900m away, well, yeah, what to say, clanners OP all day for these pilots.

further, use Adder and you will also see your jenner is way better, CERML are not as good as people think, because they are heat inefficient. Not even speaking about beam duration.

Edited by Lily from animove, 16 December 2014 - 04:46 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

deanon, on 15 December 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

Really dont find it fun to fight clan, way to much damage, unbalanced yes!,
Its like you have to play so much better to win.
And i rather have a normal game of mechwarrior, longer fights.

Let me que inner sphere only matches(normal)

I know this has allready happend for community warfare, many dont que vs clans..

So you don't want to fight the Clans in the Clan Invasion....? Not very Samurai!

[Aiden Skye]

Tired of all these nerf clan treads. OP is actually complaining that a 12ml nova is OP. Really now. Lol?
As someone that runs both IS and clan mechs, I'm afraid what we have here folks is yet another bad player looking for handouts.