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[ZOMBIEKILLER]

does anyone know if they will be getting the battlemaster ingame to play

[Adridos]

No, we don't....know.

[Rayah]

This mech is like the TimberWolf for me.... I'd die of happiness if it made it into the game....

and I don't think Paul hates it.

[zer0imh]

i think not.

all robotech mechs are already copyrighted if i'm not mistaken.

that includes the battlemaster (it's a robotech design)

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 08:37 AM.

[Elizander]

They didn't say no.

[zer0imh]

Elizander, on 27 June 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

They didn't say no.

if they bought the copyright then we are lucky.

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 08:38 AM.

[Dagger6T6]

ZOMBIEKILLER, on 27 June 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

does anyone know if they will be getting the battlemaster ingame to play

I didn't see a Battlemaster in the leaked beta footage so I guess we will never see the Battlemaster, never, ever, evernever, never

[zer0imh]

the...

locust (20t)
wasp/stinger (25t/30t)
phoenix lam (45t)
phoenix hawk (45t)
shadow hawk (55t)
griffin (55t)
wolverine (55t)
rifleman (60t)
thunderbolt (65t)
crusader (65t)
archer (70t)
warhammer (70t)
marauder (75t)
battlemaster (85t)

...all mech designs from robotech.

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 08:46 AM.

[AntiSqueaker]

It's Unseen, and isn't one of the announced mechs. I'd be surprised if it was in game without being announced,

[zer0imh]

Rayzor, on 27 June 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

The Battlemaster wasn't robotech, it was from something else and the reseen version was accepted.

check your history freebirth hehe
http://www.flickr.co...@N02/977029257/

they are called the Robotech Defenders.
http://en.wikipedia....otech_Defenders

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 08:45 AM.

[Fl3tcher]

Technically the Battlemaster is the HT 128 Bigfoot from Dougram

The long answer is that there is a huge list of Mecha from different anime that FASA (the creators of Battletech) used as illustrations for their game. Certain copyright laws mean that these images (or images based on them) cannot be used in any money making venture (copyright sucks like that)

An easy fix would be to totally redesign the mechs, but then the Battlemaster wouldn't look like a Battlemaster, and it's the look that Mech fans like us want right?

[Derek Icelord]

zer0imh, on 27 June 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

i think not.

all robotech mechs are already copyrighted if i'm not mistaken.

that includes the battlemaster (it's a robotech design)

Sort of. Robotech was the original name for BattleTech (essentially 1st edition). Second edition saw the name changed to BattleTech. The copyright issue comes from older anime series which is owned by the studios and distributed in the United States by Harmony Gold (who are the ones that make a big f-in deal of it all).

[Rayah]

I just got mind ******....

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

[Wyndrunner]

zer0imh, on 27 June 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

the...

locust (20t)
wasp/stinger (25t/30t)
phoenix lam (45t)
phoenix hawk (45t)
shadow hawk (55t)
griffin (55t)
wolverine (55t)
rifleman (60t)
thunderbolt (65t)
crusader (65t)
archer (70t)
warhammer (70t)
marauder (75t)
battlemaster (85t)

...all mech designs from robotech.

Yup, all my favorite Mechs. Fingers crossed they find a way into the game.

[Derek Icelord]

Rayzor, on 27 June 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:

Not according to sarna... http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

I've noticed that Sarna's Unseen and Reseen lists do not agree, nor are they up to date. Also, of note the new "reseen" Battlemaster is a miniature included in the 25th Anniversary starter box, and is depicted on the side artwork. For instance, I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a Battlemaster IIC. Someone made an unofficial one and uploaded it on MegaMek.

Edited by Derek Icelord, 27 June 2012 - 08:52 AM.

[Rayah]

Fl3tcher, on 27 June 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:

Technically the Battlemaster is the HT 128 Bigfoot from Dougram

The long answer is that there is a huge list of Mecha from different anime that FASA (the creators of Battletech) used as illustrations for their game. Certain copyright laws mean that these images (or images based on them) cannot be used in any money making venture (copyright sucks like that)

An easy fix would be to totally redesign the mechs, but then the Battlemaster wouldn't look like a Battlemaster, and it's the look that Mech fans like us want right?

I actually liked the Re-seen BattleMaster A LOT better than the Unseen.

[Jason Phoenix]

ZOMBIEKILLER, on 27 June 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

does anyone know if they will be getting the battlemaster ingame to play

Yes Sire !!!

They have comfirmed the Battlemaster, all the Unseen/Reseen and at least the Clan Mechs already... You will even be able to setup furniture in your own Leopard Dropship !!!

Its been confirmed in an hidden Post by Comstar somewhere in the Beta Forums, at least thats what a friend of mine told me.

I just cant wait to play the game

Spoiler

Gotcha !!!

Never Troll a Master Troll they say

[TKG]

Derek Icelord, on 27 June 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Sort of. Robotech was the original name for BattleTech (essentially 1st edition). Second edition saw the name changed to BattleTech. The copyright issue comes from older anime series which is owned by the studios and distributed in the United States by Harmony Gold (who are the ones that make a big f-in deal of it all).

Uh no it was called battledroids. Nice guess though.

The actual lawsuit comes from FASA purchasing/acquiring the rights to distribute the toys but not the rights to use the designs. So basically in the end FASA lost the court case the missing 21 came into being and that was that. Why FASA didn't just print the offending units without art or aim Duane loose at the designs with redesign in mind I'll never know.

I know this, the project phoenix rebuilds are hideous.


edit
Speaking of dougram....what mech is that in the background there (lol)
http://upload.wikime...Sun_Dougram.jpg

This kind of explains a lot

Edited by TKG, 27 June 2012 - 08:57 AM.

[zer0imh]

LOL the Ostsol was the Zentraedi Battlepod haha!

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 08:54 AM.

[Bagheera]

http://en.wikipedia....the_Sun_Dougram

Why some of the designs are "reseen" ^^^. HG was involved in the renamed toys of the mechs from Dougram, but iirc never fully owned the IP. Thus the Dougram mechs returned to us, while (most) of the actual Robotech ones did not.

What bearing that has on the game, we have yet to find out.

Edited by Bagheera, 27 June 2012 - 08:57 AM.