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#1 DuskAU

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 08:59 PM

Coming from a RTS/FPS background and being interested in the competitive gaming scene for RTS games, I was wondering;

Where there ever any mech pilots that were universally feared when they joined your game?

EG: Back when I was playing Starcraft and was in tune with the community and player heirarchy there were certain players that, if they joined a game the opponent would know that their chance at victory was limited.

They could execute builds better, had better timings down, much better macro and impressive control compared to most other high level players.

I know Mechwarrior games did not develop a 'professional scene' like Starcraft, but I'm sure people have tales of their nemesis's or rumours of pilots that seemed untouchable on the battlefield.

Or maybe the reverse is true.
Maybe you knew the history of a 'great' and managed to take him down in 1on1 combat.

Fill us all in on the details of your greatest achievement or your most feared encounter!

#2 EGG

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:11 PM

Given that I've never seen anyone's name come up consistently for this over the past 12 years, I'm going to say no.

There will be a lot of "there was this one time at bandcamp when this guy trashed me in a Raven", but I don't believe there are players with a consistent and phenomenal capability to waste the field eg Strenx / Cooller / Thresh / Lakerman / Timber etc.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:29 PM

Depends on who you ask, which version of mechwarrior they played and what league/community they are coming from. But a single player that is well known throughout all games and all leagues and communities, no there really isn't.

Mechwarrior'a community has never been as centralized and united as starcraft's.

Edited by =Outlaw=, 25 January 2012 - 09:30 PM.


#4 DuskAU

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:37 PM

View Post=Outlaw=, on 25 January 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

But a single player that is well known throughout all games and all leagues and communities, no there really isn't.


That's not what I originally intended. Just like alot of Starcraft players aren't at the top of the heap in SC2, or even play it for that matter. I meant; In the game that you played - Was there anyone that just drove fear into you to the point where you fumbled around the controls inside your cockpit?

Perhaps that will narrow the field and some people will come out with some great stories about pilots they revered or their own dominance on the battlefield.

#5 SilentWolff

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:48 PM

Certainly back in the days of the MSN Gaming Zone for MW3 and Early MW4, there were feared names and guilds. Some of the names that come to mind are EDGE, TOP, Neothor, Ringwraith and with the risk of sounding full of myself, me as well. I remember sitting for hours on the zone waiting for a game because no one would play us. The big reason my guild quit tbh. I hope MWO finds a way for that not to happen this go around.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:07 PM

View PostSilentWolff, on 25 January 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

Certainly back in the days of the MSN Gaming Zone for MW3 and Early MW4, there were feared names and guilds. Some of the names that come to mind are EDGE, TOP, Neothor, Ringwraith and with the risk of sounding full of myself, me as well. I remember sitting for hours on the zone waiting for a game because no one would play us. The big reason my guild quit tbh. I hope MWO finds a way for that not to happen this go around.

Why not play eachother, or challange yourself by splitting the team in a pub. "No one would play us" suggests that you & the most skilled pilots in any given room all jump on the same side to stomp in public games. Of course any organized team is going to mop the floor against common folk, Especially if said players are also good players. IMO a stomp is never fun, Even if you're on the winning side of things. You can't blame them for not wanting to play if that was in fact what was going on, and shouldn't pin that on devs to solve.

Unless you mean that you as individuals were so skilled that whatever team didn't have you on it would dodge out, In which case; Bummer.

Edited by RynCage, 25 January 2012 - 10:08 PM.


#7 SilentWolff

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:10 PM

View PostRynCage, on 25 January 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

Why not play eachother, or challange yourself by splitting the team in a pub. "No one would play us" suggests that you & the most skilled pilots in any given room all jump on the same side to stomp in public games. Of course any organized team is going to mop the floor against common folk, Especially if said players are also good players. IMO a stomp is never fun, Even if you're on the winning side of things. You can't blame them for not wanting to play if that was in fact what was going on, and shouldn't pin that on devs to solve.

Unless you mean that you as individuals were so skilled that whatever team didn't have you on it would dodge out, In which case; Bummer.



I'm talking league games here (VL, BZ), not random games that you jump in hone your skills some.

#8 Kristov Kerensky

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:15 PM

There were indeed names of individual players and entire teams that were well known and feared/hated for the various MechWarrior games. It varied by the game and the leagues for the game. I was one of those names, along with Eph, Steel Eagle, Dacobra, Ford Prefect, and Dogmeat Pryde during the days of MW2 on the Registry and Kali. And that's just a few of the names, friends of mine and like myself, leaders of some of the top teams back in the day :) There's some threads here and there around the forums that are roll calls, and in those you'll see many names that were feared/hated far and wide for MW2/3/4, and sometimes for multiple versions of the game...

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:20 PM

Doesnt sound like an enjoyable leauge experiance if "who i feel like playing" is dictating who/what and when matches take place.
Still isn't a problem to pin on devs, and i don't see things like "MW:O leauges" sprouting up, But if they do take that concern up with'um.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:25 PM

Back when playing MPBT there wasn't anyone that my team feared, but there was a Wolf's Dragoon pilot named Anton WD and played for the Draconis Combine. If you were playing Steiner or Davion and his name came up, everyone would drop what they were doing and make sure he died fast and often. No other player I know ever has been so universally hunted down :)

#11 DuskAU

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:40 PM

View PostSilentWolff, on 25 January 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

I remember sitting for hours on the zone waiting for a game because no one would play us. The big reason my guild quit tbh. I hope MWO finds a way for that not to happen this go around.


Any epic stories to recount for us new comers? You and your teams rise to power and dominance? Knife-edge matches? The one time you were stomped mercilessly?

View PostKristov Kerensky, on 25 January 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

There's some threads here and there around the forums that are roll calls, and in those you'll see many names that were feared/hated far and wide for MW2/3/4, and sometimes for multiple versions of the game...


Do you have a sort of timeline on your rise to power through the series? I really enjoy the background to players or the fluff surrounding the game, and since I don't have any BattleTech books and am basically brand new to the MW series, it's all interesting to me.

View PostWMC Gomez, on 25 January 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

Wolf's Dragoon pilot named Anton WD and played for the Draconis Combine... No other player I know ever has been so universally hunted down :)


Care to elaborate? How he became the most hunted man on the servers? Haha, Sounds awesome!

#12 Dlardrageth

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:42 PM

I do remember fearing almost universally the multiplayer mode in MW3 because it sometimes made lagshots the normality... :)

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:45 PM

View PostDuskAU, on 25 January 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:


That's not what I originally intended. Just like alot of Starcraft players aren't at the top of the heap in SC2, or even play it for that matter.


But there are some players like Idra that are well known from both. I don't play SC that much and I know that name. Theres is nothing like that in Mechwarrior. Maybe MWO can change that.

As for me personally, there are just too many players, teams, matches and incidents to list here as the most memorable....and I can't really think of one thats really worth postin. Im not good at telling stories.
http://www.netbattle...php?f=6&t=32596 ...If you want to read up on epic Mechwarrior league e-peen chest pounding

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 04:21 AM

Nah, Starcraft is about two things. ;)

Clicking like crazy - have APM "Over 9000!" and this:

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There are a lot more strategic, funnier, better RTSs out there. :D

Edited by Adridos, 26 January 2012 - 04:21 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 04:40 AM

There are definitely a few names that are always near the top in MWLL. Depending on wether you are looking at K:D ratio or points, it depends.

Right now in MWO it's pretty much everyone but Russ "Mr. I shoot my teammates in the back" Bullock (I hear people groan and roll their eyes when he joins their team)

#16 DuskAU

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 04:51 AM

View PostAdridos, on 26 January 2012 - 04:21 AM, said:

There are a lot more strategic, funnier, better RTSs out there. ;)


What you said is the equivalent of me saying "Oh in MW you just get powerful weapons and kill them." Which is just an inexperianced moulded to one game-type player. Someone who hasn't played a game for any amount of time, or set themselves the task of learning the nuances of a game. My background is Starcraft, I'm going to relate alot of my stuff to those experiances to see what players of the MW games can relate to or to find out their views.

This wasn't meant to be a 'this game is better than that game' thread. I am new to MW games. I played like 30 minutes of MW2 and maybe 1 level of MW4. I'm just interested in peoples online experiances. Finding out if the community has developed stand-out players etc. A big enjoyment for me is learning about a game and it's overall history and stand-out events. So instead of saying "MW is just the bigger guns win" I'm trying to learn about the game!

Now what I'm really interested in, is epic clan wars or stand out pub games where someone dominated...I want to know about the fear running through opponents hearts as you went on a killing spree. I want to know about that one time in a clan match you all-killed the enemy squad!

Cheers for the replies so far!

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 05:08 AM

This is all about there being a good community. If there is a good community, and you play against the same players regularly, you will come to know them, and of course, come to know the best players. I played Mechwarrior 4 in both MWL and NBT and there were always players who had a reputation for being good.

The sense of community is important. World of tanks did not have this. Every game you played a different set of players due to the way the open matches were set-up, and you just didn't get to know anyone. I hope MWO isn't like this as that would be a massive shame. You should join a named server and then play match after match with the same people. That way you get to know them, and you'll go back to that same server next time you log-on because you'll want to play with those people again.

It's not just about your buddies on team speak that you're playing with, it's also about knowing the people you're playing against, at least by their reputation, play style and ability in game.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 05:13 AM

There has been alot of stand out players in MW4.

The best long tom pilot was a guy that went by the name Netburnz. I've seen this guy pin down one of the best teams playing at the time single handedly.

The best DFA pilot was a guy named Shwinglepuck. I've competed against this guy plenty of times in MWL's solaris league.He never was able to get a DFA on me.

According to Shwinglepuck, I'm one of the best when it comes to battlefeild awareness. Puck has told me about several times he's tried getting a DFA on me, just knowing he had me, and at the last second I would spin around and nail his *** just before he lands on my head.

One of the best harasser pilots is a guy that plays under the name Skippy(skippy still plays MW4 and is in the same unit as me, Dark Rift).

In the days of TWL supporting MW4, Dark Rift was considered one of the top two teams and was undefeated on TWL's Team Destruction No Respawn ladder.

At MWL, the team that goes by the name eXpertise has the best battle record with 431 wins and only 30 losses between March 2005 to Dec 2011

IMHO, the best all around player is a guy that uses the name Xian. He has been the winning factor in more matches than I can count. He can effectively play any role you want him to, from a little scout, to a front line assault.

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 26 January 2012 - 05:13 AM.


#19 Skwisgaar Skwigelf

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 06:25 AM

Maybe this game is where some people will make that name for themselves.

Personally, I'd rather not even know who is in what game until it's over. Sure I'd like to know what unit I'm up against but I could care less about seeing peoples names hover above their mech and getting little messages that say "joe blow killed slick rick". An after-action report with statistics would suit me just fine.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 08:25 AM

View PostSkwisgaar Skwigelf, on 26 January 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Maybe this game is where some people will make that name for themselves.


This is what im hoping for.

If free to play games are made well, they can have an incredibly long lifespan, and Battletech already has one of the best fanbases out there. I'm really excited to see what kind of attention this game can get.

If this game is what im hoping for, ill be dropping 300$ for that awesome logitech joystick/throttle/pedal, and be playin this for many many many years to come. I can only hope ill make a name for myself, or at least help my merc corp make a name for ourselves in that time span.





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