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[Telrax]

It is a bit limited in reasoning, but I am honestly unhappy that the Founder Mechs are 10 tons over the drop limit. CW was one of the goals that we Founder's were supporting with the crowd funding purchase. So I would have hoped that I could use all four weight classes I purchased via this package. I do understand the need to limit weight to maintain game balance. It would have been nice to find other ways to enable this limit while still allowing the use of purchased mechs that were part of a CW supporting purchase. Just sharing my feedback, and I doubt I will see changes due to this reasoning. I guess dropping with an Atlas/Catapult/Hunchback/Jenner is considered OP or some such silliness.

[meteorol]

3 Timbers and a Mist Lynx? Sure you wanna see this?

[EvilCow]

I would go in the other direction, may be 230 tons would be better, we would see some less TWs, SCs, TDRs.

[StillRadioactive]

meteorol, on 25 December 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

3 Timbers and a Mist Lynx? Sure you wanna see this?

TWF/TWF/TWF/MLX

DWF/DWF/MLX/MLX

HBR/HBR/HBR/SCR

TWF/HBR/SCR/SCR

Absolutely none of those are acceptable combinations on the battlefield from a gameplay balance perspective, and they're all 250 tons.

[Cer6erus]

Do it! Do it! Do it!

[Mystere]

meteorol, on 25 December 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

3 Timbers and a Mist Lynx? Sure you wanna see this?

Actually, the Founder's mechs should be the sole exclusion to the 240 rule.

[MechaBattler]

Seems ridiculous to make such a change just for that. You can bring most of them. I'd say that's good enough not to mess with balance.

[Ace Selin]

WHY

Mystere, on 25 December 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

Actually, the Founder's mechs should be the sole exclusion to the 240 rule.

Why?

[Alistair Winter]

Mystere, on 25 December 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

Actually, the Founder's mechs should be the sole exclusion to the 240 rule.

Yep.

And then make the Founder's mechs available to everyone.

[Senor Cataclysmo]

What is the actual difference between founder mechs & regular mechs of the same variant? Unique geometry?

[Racklesnack]

Senor Cataclysmo, on 25 December 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

What is the actual difference between founder mechs & regular mechs of the same variant? Unique geometry?

Unique geometry, cbill boost, and they have a locked camo or pattern I think

[Furniture]

Just a 25% c-bill bonus.

And OP: no. Just no. 240 is the heaviest it should be. Other posters in the thread have already highlighted good reasons not to expand to 250.

I'm not complaining that they changed the 140 minimum so I can't run my 4 adder joke deck anymore. Because that tonnage also opens up balance problems.

[Ken Fury]

I dare say that Dropship limits might be different per planet in the future. Some may be higher, some lower than today. Could happen, or not .

[Willard Phule]

250 works for me. I could ditch the Summoner and bring the Timberwolf.

Hell, I'll go the other direction....250+ is good for me. Where we're sitting makes me have to keep a sub-par mech on the drop list. It's either Warhawk/Kitfox/Summoner/Stormcrow or Warhawk/Kitfox/Timberwolf/Nova. I didn't get any of the fancy wave 2 stuff. I'll probably get the Mad Dog when it comes out for Cbills (hell, it might be for all I know). That'd solve problems.

[Alistair Winter]

Senor Cataclysmo, on 25 December 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

What is the actual difference between founder mechs & regular mechs of the same variant? Unique geometry?

Well, the normal Catapult looks a fairly cool blend of old Mechwarrior games with modern, angular and functional-looking sci fi design.

The Founder Catapult looks like the Olympian Gods tried to capture a transcendent beauty mortals were not meant to see and channeled it into mech form, that we may catch a glimpse of it without fear of instantly losing our sanity. If you're running MWO at very high graphical settings, try not to look directly at the CPLT-C1(F) up close, as you will wake up in a pool of your own bodily fluids, still tingling with waves of involuntary spasms.


TL;DR- Nice custom geometry is nice.

[One Medic Army]

Alistair Winter, on 25 December 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

Well, the normal Catapult looks a fairly cool blend of old Mechwarrior games with modern, angular and functional-looking sci fi design.

The Founder Catapult looks like the Olympian Gods tried to capture a transcendent beauty mortals were not meant to see and channeled it into mech form, that we may catch a glimpse of it without fear of instantly losing our sanity. If you're running MWO at very high graphical settings, try not to look directly at the CPLT-C1(F) up close, as you will wake up in a pool of your own bodily fluids, still tingling with waves of involuntary spasms.


TL;DR- Nice custom geometry is nice.

TL;DR: it has a pointy nose.

[Willard Phule]

Alistair Winter, on 25 December 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

Well, the normal Catapult looks a fairly cool blend of old Mechwarrior games with modern, angular and functional-looking sci fi design.

The Founder Catapult looks like the Olympian Gods tried to capture a transcendent beauty mortals were not meant to see and channeled it into mech form, that we may catch a glimpse of it without fear of instantly losing our sanity. If you're running MWO at very high graphical settings, try not to look directly at the CPLT-C1(F) up close, as you will wake up in a pool of your own bodily fluids, still tingling with waves of involuntary spasms.


TL;DR- Nice custom geometry is nice.

Not that it matters, but have you seen the variety of Table Top figures for Catapults available? They run the gamut of everything you described with the addition of size. The old plastic ones are probably the best example of what it should look like....it's a Star League deisgn, so it should be smooth and round....downside is that it's bigger than an Atlas. Oh well.

[Mystere]

Ace Selin, on 25 December 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

WHY

Why?

So they still mean something.

[Lukoi Banacek]

I vote no to this. But if PGI goes with it, expect to see me in three TBRs and my favorite little mist lynx constantly.

[StillRadioactive]

Lukoi Banacek, on 25 December 2014 - 06:45 PM, said:

I vote no to this. But if PGI goes with it, expect to see me in three TBRs and my favorite little mist lynx constantly.

I'll see your TBR/TBR/TBR/MLX and raise you a TDR/TDR/TDR/GRF.