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[G SE7EN7]

So they should raise the drop deck minimum weight, as it was it favoured light pilots, not sure about medium pilots but heavy and assault pilots had to make compromises. This is a direct counter to zerg rush.

[Imperius]

As Sandpit said, if you should be allowed to take 4 lights, I should be allowed to take 4 assaults.

If you're not ok with me taking 4 assaults (trust me you shouldn't I'm kinda good in them) then that should be /end thread

I'll accept 4 lights if I can have 4 assaults.

[Almond Brown]

ztac, on 23 December 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

Well this is just symptomatic of one of the main problems of MWO, they explain why this is like that and this does that and so forth and people say that it's ok because PGI said so.

But lights .... the go fast , have small hit boxes , decent armour with the previous two factors considered and you can fit some nice weapons on some of them. But here lies the problem .. they are supposed to be scouts yet people can use them like an assault.

They are hard to hit with most weapons and those that are easiest to hit them with (not streaks) take time to bring them down.It could almost be said that lights are more survivable than assaults .. which is laughable but true in some ways. And the fact that people have to use precious tonnage and slots to fit a mech to counter a light is equally bad as that is then poorer at taking on the heavier classes.
As for the usual we have to use them because clans are OP nonsense , it is getting a bit tiring especially with all the quirks the IS enjoy now. Fact is some IS mechs can outrange and outdamage the clan mechs.

That issue goes back to day one though. "How to make Lights useful, when Scouting has little or no use, as seen by the players." Make them fast and tough. The "lots of damage" angle could have been curtailed but it is far to late for that.

Who knew 2 years ago that 6+ SPL's would become a Death sentence setup to any/many Heavy and Assault Mechs while engaged with other Mechs in battle?

Edited by Almond Brown, 24 December 2014 - 06:36 AM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Sandpit, on 23 December 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

Most of the "theories" in this thread wouldn't even be posted if you saw the convos and explanations on twitter.

Instead of posting assumptions

Good or bad there's a lot of interaction on twitter with russ. Some of you could definitely benefit from the info and would understand why some of us just shake our heads at some of the stuff posted by a select few on these forums

I will never have a twitter account! Millions of people spitting into the wind, most of them thinking someone actually reads their idiot tweets....LOL

[Imperius]

MechWarrior5152251, on 24 December 2014 - 07:09 AM, said:

I will never have a twitter account! Millions of people spitting into the wind, most of them thinking someone actually reads their idiot tweets....LOL

Russ reads those so called idiot tweets thank god he does too, otherwise a lot of us would have left this game a long time ago!

[Kilo 40]

Imperius, on 24 December 2014 - 02:15 AM, said:

As Sandpit said, if you should be allowed to take 4 lights, I should be allowed to take 4 assaults.

If you're not ok with me taking 4 assaults (trust me you shouldn't I'm kinda good in them) then that should be /end thread

I'll accept 4 lights if I can have 4 assaults.

I'll accept 4 assaults when the average player has a reason to run lights or when lights are played in the same numbers as assaults are.

I rarely run lights but, IMO, there shouldn't be a lower tonnage limit in CW. at least not now. when/if they add some sort of role warfare mechanic I may change my mind about it.

[Tim East]

FupDup, on 23 December 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

If the minimum weight was 120 tons, players could have a full dropdeck of quad Urbanmechs. Do want and must have.

Lol, Urbanmech+rush=oxymoron.

[Lentil]

Imperius, on 24 December 2014 - 02:15 AM, said:

As Sandpit said, if you should be allowed to take 4 lights, I should be allowed to take 4 assaults.

If you're not ok with me taking 4 assaults (trust me you shouldn't I'm kinda good in them) then that should be /end thread

I'll accept 4 lights if I can have 4 assaults.

I think what's tactically wrong with this statement is the following:

If you force a light focused pilot to bring a heavy to fill out the drop deck (35+35+30+60), you've got an inexperienced pilot in 60 tons of mech. If you force an assault focused pilot to take a light, you have an inexperienced pilot in a 35 ton mech. Which is going to be more detrimental to the team? A 60 ton throw-away, or a 35 ton throw-away?

[Necromantion]

Honestly we may see this upped again just to stop the mindless IS light rush that most teams who cant actually brawl or snipe do.

[Almond Brown]

Lentil, on 12 February 2015 - 04:24 AM, said:

I think what's tactically wrong with this statement is the following:

If you force a light focused pilot to bring a heavy to fill out the drop deck (35+35+30+60), you've got an inexperienced pilot in 60 tons of mech. If you force an assault focused pilot to take a light, you have an inexperienced pilot in a 35 ton mech. Which is going to be more detrimental to the team? A 60 ton throw-away, or a 35 ton throw-away?

Plenty of current CW drop decks have a throw-away Mech in them now, without the Pilot not being adept in any of them. They are just filler because you can't just take a Fave 3.

[Joseph Mallan]

Almond Brown, on 23 December 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

You answered your own question.

"For most skilled pilots 4 FireStarter H's will out DPS 4 Vindicators...."

Think about that for just a minute.

So PGI has made it impossible to be the Killer Bees almost all lights...