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[Floatmeal]

My rig:
Asus R9 290 = http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121775

AMD FX - 8350 Not OC = http://www.newegg.co...3-284-_-Product

AMD Ram 16 GB 2133Mhz = http://www.newegg.co...3-007-_-Product

ASRock 990 FX Extreme 9 = http://www.newegg.co...-358-_-Product3

Evga NEX 750g = http://www.newegg.co...8-027-_-Product

I run 64bit on medium with DX 11 and get 30 ish fps in game. This does not seem right. Is there anything I am missing here.

[Kell Morgan]

Umm yea that's not right I run the 8350 and a EVGA 760 with 16 GM ram 2133.
I am always getting above 50 on high settings.

I have no idea whats happening with your rig but that doesn't seem right.

[Lord Letto]

OverClock that 8350 to Oblivion or Switch to Intel. also, what kind of cooling do you have?

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Floatmeal, on 26 December 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

My rig:
Asus R9 290 = http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121775

AMD FX - 8350 Not OC = http://www.newegg.co...3-284-_-Product

AMD Ram 16 GB 2133Mhz = http://www.newegg.co...3-007-_-Product

ASRock 990 FX Extreme 9 = http://www.newegg.co...-358-_-Product3

Evga NEX 750g = http://www.newegg.co...8-027-_-Product

I run 64bit on medium with DX 11 and get 30 ish fps in game. This does not seem right. Is there anything I am missing here.

MWO is incredibly CPU dependent, it's incredibly intensive on the single threaded performance of a CPU which currently Intel fairs far better at.
To improve your experience with an AMD chip, your going to want a decent aftermarket cooler and overclock it considerably.
you might want to look at doing some user.cfg tweaks too.

[MechWarrior4172571]

Floatmeal, on 26 December 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

My rig:
Asus R9 290 = http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121775

AMD FX - 8350 Not OC = http://www.newegg.co...3-284-_-Product

AMD Ram 16 GB 2133Mhz = http://www.newegg.co...3-007-_-Product

ASRock 990 FX Extreme 9 = http://www.newegg.co...-358-_-Product3

Evga NEX 750g = http://www.newegg.co...8-027-_-Product

I run 64bit on medium with DX 11 and get 30 ish fps in game. This does not seem right. Is there anything I am missing here.

I haven't used AMD drivers for awhile (always hated them anyway) and is not sure if there is an option there now for forcing cpu to process a 3D game using more than 1 cpu core, although I believe I've seen it mentioned somewhere in regards to the latest driver from AMD, but, for NVidia there is an option, in drivers, where a user can force cpu to use more than one core when processing a particular application--you may want to look into it and try that option if you have it. It seems to have helped me a little when I forced NVidia in NVidia driver settings to utilize more than one core for MWO (GTX 970 and Thuban 1090T overlocked to 4GHz here and I am getting horrible frame rates, in my opinion, 30s with higher spikes in battles). That is one thing you can look at that might... just might help you a little. Overclocking past 4.5GHz a CPU, especially the AMD one, seems to be the minimum hardware requirement of MWO, if one wants smooth 60 fps in battles.. now, not many would come out and say that honestly just because they invested hundreds of dollars in their king crab package and became blinded to reality.. but, here it is. You need to OC your proc to at least 4.5GHz to get smoothER play.

[xWiredx]

OC that CPU to hell and back or suffer is essentially how it goes with MWO and Bulldozer/Piledriver chips. Lots of posts showing AMD's lack of CPU horsepower causing people grief around here.

[Summon3r]

xWiredx, on 27 December 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

OC that CPU to hell and back or suffer is essentially how it goes with MWO and Bulldozer/Piledriver chips. Lots of posts showing AMD's lack of CPU horsepower causing people grief around here.

this

[Lord Letto]

Lord Letto, on 26 December 2014 - 07:41 PM, said:

OverClock that 8350 to Oblivion or Switch to Intel. also, what kind of cooling do you have?

[POOTYTANGASAUR]

Garbage single core performance on that CPU. I have an i5 and an r9 290 vapor x (1300,1600) and I run mwo maxed @ 1080p 60fps locked.

[Smokeyjedi]

POOTYTANGASAUR, on 29 December 2014 - 10:43 AM, said:

Garbage single core performance on that CPU. I have an i5 and an r9 290 vapor x (1300,1600) and I run mwo maxed @ 1080p 60fps locked.

? LOL It takes An Intel 5820 @ 4.3 to lock 60+ FPS on this **** maxed out...........I5s are great but not that great. You would see dips below 60FPS for sure.... @ or higher than 1080P

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 29 December 2014 - 06:12 PM.

[Golrar]

Did you by chance install the new AMD Omega drivers? Supposedly that helps.

I run the same chip OCed to 4.6Ghz with a mutli OC only, with slower and less ram and a GTX 650Ti and get better performance than you are seeing. I got better performance before I OCed my chip. The only thing that might be different is I leave particles on low and shadows on medium. Also all the basic user.cfg stuff and I use process lasso for core affinity and core parking.

You should be seeing better performance if you set your particles and shadows lower. But I agree you need to OC the CPU, and turn off turbo and cool and quiet and all that junk in BIOS.

Edited by Golrar, 29 December 2014 - 09:19 PM.

[Smokeyjedi]

Floatmeal, on 26 December 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

My rig:
Asus R9 290 = http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121775

AMD FX - 8350 Not OC = http://www.newegg.co...3-284-_-Product

AMD Ram 16 GB 2133Mhz = http://www.newegg.co...3-007-_-Product

ASRock 990 FX Extreme 9 = http://www.newegg.co...-358-_-Product3

Evga NEX 750g = http://www.newegg.co...8-027-_-Product

I run 64bit on medium with DX 11 and get 30 ish fps in game. This does not seem right. Is there anything I am missing here.

You are after all running an ASROCK EXTREME after all so just go get the baddest cooler you can afford (air or liquid-you pick)and trust me youll need it.......that board has enough VRMS to push that chip. go for simple multi OC untill you read 1 of many oc guides regarding FSB OC (ram,NB,HT-link) you can get to smooth playable framerates......just dont expect to max out eye candy or even run high settings across the board.......I get BSOD after 2-3 matches @ 4960mhz........8 threads........my ASUS 970 EVO cant take the heat...even with custom vrm cooling, unless I drop to 3 module 6 core.

ran a simple multiplier OC @4.5? IIRC untill I learned to bump FSB drop RAM speed manually and let the FSB OC work it up........now sitting @ 255X19=4861mhz 24/7 with a cheap MOBO compared to yours///with Gskill 2133 ram @ 2080mhz......started near 1333mhz and by the time I got to 250mhz FSB the ram was in sweet spot........There is much to learn..........Go forth and achieve cooling my young padawan. feel the fanbreeze flow through you.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 29 December 2014 - 09:53 PM.

[Exarch Levin]

Floatmeal, on 26 December 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

My rig:
Asus R9 290 = http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121775

AMD FX - 8350 Not OC = http://www.newegg.co...3-284-_-Product

AMD Ram 16 GB 2133Mhz = http://www.newegg.co...3-007-_-Product

ASRock 990 FX Extreme 9 = http://www.newegg.co...-358-_-Product3

Evga NEX 750g = http://www.newegg.co...8-027-_-Product

I run 64bit on medium with DX 11 and get 30 ish fps in game. This does not seem right. Is there anything I am missing here.

Depending on the map and conditions, that's in line with what I was getting before I did the "free" overclock and started mucking around in my user.CFG file with tips given by other forum users.

BTW, earlier in MWO's lifetime it was said to either run GFX settings on either low or high as medium had performance issues. Is that still in effect today?

[Smokeyjedi]

Exarch Levin, on 30 December 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

Depending on the map and conditions, that's in line with what I was getting before I did the "free" overclock and started mucking around in my user.CFG file with tips given by other forum users.

BTW, earlier in MWO's lifetime it was said to either run GFX settings on either low or high as medium had performance issues. Is that still in effect today?

nah, the settings are doing much better than back than.

[meteorol]

AMD cpus suck for gaming. I got one aswell (interim solution for a year) and a buddy of mine gets solid 30 fps more than me with an identical PC (except board/cpu of course).

[Smokeyjedi]

meteorol, on 31 December 2014 - 04:47 AM, said:

AMD cpus suck for gaming. I got one aswell (interim solution for a year) and a buddy of mine gets solid 30 fps more than me with an identical PC (except board/cpu of course).

I would recommend Intel for MWO, but no other games struggle as hard as this one on FX8350's etc........crysis 3 uses 8 threads better than MWO but also needs to be OC less to stay stable.......better turnover @ lower clockspeed from MWO....unless you are running a board with 6+2 VRMs or less you will hit damn near 5.0ghz with decent cooling. 5ghz 8 threads will play any game once its stabilized.(cant argue this!) MWO is alone in its cryptic sloppy un optimized ways.....
Dx12 should be exciting for fx users as well.

[Exarch Levin]

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Dx12 should be exciting for fx users as well.

I have this sinking feeling that we won't be seeing DX12/OGL 4.5/Mantle and its multithreaded rendering in MWO...

[Smokeyjedi]

Exarch Levin, on 31 December 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

I have this sinking feeling that we won't be seeing DX12/OGL 4.5/Mantle and its multithreaded rendering in MWO...

Pretty much bang on! PGI does things their way and its at least going better for them in the last few months.....things that have been put on the back burner that were vital are almost at the forfront of PGIs agenda. or so it seems......

[Crazy Billy Joe Bob]

an AMD-8350 should be more than enough to play this game, but PGI has probably the most horrendous single threading codding in games, I play Witcher 3 at max settings, get 60+fps [Redacted]

Edited by Rhazien, 06 July 2015 - 02:06 AM.
Nonconstructive

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Crazy Billy Joe Bob, on 05 July 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

an AMD-8350 should be more than enough to play this game, but PGI has probably the most horrendous single threading codding in games, I play Witcher 3 at max settings, get 60+fps [Redacted]

Ignoring your super necro for whatever reasons.

Even if PGI's single thread coding was pitch perfect the 8350 would still have poor performance.

Because the 8350 has shared FPU units, and poor IPC.

The FX series was a gamble by AMD that multi-threading and more cores were the way to go, and they were not.
Hence why they are rectifying this mistake in Zen

Edited by Rhazien, 06 July 2015 - 02:06 AM.
Quote clean up.