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[Revis Volek]

Roland, on 02 January 2015 - 09:37 AM, said:

That's because you have your other "secret" account that you play clan mechs on.

and? Whats your point? I have Is accounts? PGI wont let me do both on one so i have two. Bishop is in the same boat....

[Oderint dum Metuant]

DarthRevis, on 02 January 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

and? Whats your point? I have Is accounts? PGI wont let me do both on one so i have two. Bishop is in the same boat....

I wish.....but then you wouldnt have to buy things twice....would you.

[Sarlic]

Lot of pilots in this community have no clue of sportmanship. I find this whole customizjng is getting out of hand. Sure it's fun to customize, but i think there should be small requirements.

Example of bad sportmanship builds: FS with SMPL, Streakcrows, Dual Gauss Crabs, the PPC debacle, Timberwolfs with heavy meta, AC20 or Gauss Cicada and many more.

We all have experienced these builds before. Pilots with these builds dont rolewarfare, they do it for the damage.

I say we need to implent small hardcoded hardpoints in order to weer out this kind of builds.
For example a Direwolf cannot be played without atleast one LRM rack. And a FS with atleast one medium laser point as per excisting lore.

I rather see stock matches then fully customized vomiting laser boats. Meaning: i f-king want clear rolewarfare pilots. Not a e-peen pilot.

Edited by Sarlic, 02 January 2015 - 10:05 AM.

[AlmightyAeng]

Sarlic, on 02 January 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

Lot of pilots in this community have no clue of sportmanship. I find this whole customizjng is getting out of hand. Sure it's fun to customize, but i think there should be small requirements.

Example of bad sportmanship builds: FS with SMPL, Streakcrows, Dual Gauss Crabs, the PPC debacle, Timberwolfs with heavy meta, AC20 or Gauss Cicada and many more.

We all have experienced these builds before. Pilots with these builds dont rolewarfare, they do it for the damage.

I say we need to implent small hardcoded hardpoints in order to weer out this kind of builds.
For example a Direwolf cannot be played without atleast one LRM rack. And a FS with atleast one medium laser point as per excisting lore.

I rather see stock matches then fully customized vomiting laser boats.

*snerk. So anything that isn't stock and lore is now unsportsmanlike? Building a mech that is functional and useful is bad? Thank you for taking the entire joy of mechbuilding out of the game lol.

I will not, however, argue against a stock MODE. But to do away with customization? Lame.

[Sarlic]

Its hard to explain in english. But my point is pilots dont rolewarfare with these kind of builds.

Edited by Sarlic, 02 January 2015 - 10:07 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

R Razor, on 02 January 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

I'm guessing you've never run a quirked 3 ERPPC Thud on the Sulfur map..........because IQ or not, you are going to overheat, especially when the Crows breach the gates and start eating up your generators and you're doing all you can to leg at least one before you die.

actually, I have. And what the smart teams do is rotate their 8-12 9S so that when a few are hot they can take about 5-10 seconds to cool off. or simply fire in 2/1 salvos to avoid GH and fire all day.

Those ER PPC are generating all of 7.5 heat for 10 PP damage, every 3 seconds or less.

[Rhaythe]

If Community Warfare is the "roleplaying hardcore" environment, why DON'T we have a stock mode?


(Please oh please oh please...?!)

[MarineTech]

Still at it.

[Sarlic]

Ghost Badger, on 02 January 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

*snerk. So anything that isn't stock and lore is now unsportsmanlike? Building a mech that is functional and useful is bad? Thank you for taking the entire joy of mechbuilding out of the game lol.

I will not, however, argue against a stock MODE. But to do away with customization? Lame.

Partially customizeable like the clans. Not fully scrap it..

[Bishop Steiner]

DV McKenna, on 02 January 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

I wish.....but then you wouldnt have to buy things twice....would you.

which is why I only buy clan stuff on 1 acct, IS stuff on the other. Aside from a YLW from before Clan release, no retreads here. (And really, what self respecting medium jock doesn't have at least 1 wang per acct....)

MarineTech, on 02 January 2015 - 10:07 AM, said:

Still at it.

all that butter is bad for your cholesterol.

[R Razor]

Ghost Badger, on 02 January 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

*snerk. So anything that isn't stock and lore is now unsportsmanlike? Building a mech that is functional and useful is bad? Thank you for taking the entire joy of mechbuilding out of the game lol.

I will not, however, argue against a stock MODE. But to do away with customization? Lame.

I don't see where he said to do away with customization, but he did seem to indicate that some limitations would be a good thing, and he's right in my opinion.

Sized hard points would go FAR in helping to eliminate the min/max trend that dominates this game, it would remove the whining about the Thud ERPPC build for example. There would have to be more than size restrictions and type restrictions to make it work though, otherwise you'd still have the SPL FS's and the CERML Doomcrows running around as the new meta.

[AlmightyAeng]

Sarlic, on 02 January 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

Partially customizeable like the clans. Not fully scrap it..

The only non-customizeable part about clans is the engine (and the Adder flamer...that's it, right?). Their weapons are fully customizable. Taking even part of that away from IS only makes things worse...and less fun.

Edited by Ghost Badger, 02 January 2015 - 10:10 AM.

[RG Notch]

Sarlic, on 02 January 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

Partially customizeable like the clans. Not fully scrap it..

Well you can do that? OH you want everyone to have to do that There's stock only mode private matches for people who want to play that way. Since it doesn't appear the regular queues are shutting down because so many people are playing that mode I say leave it. People can role play or whatever they want to call making bad mechs in their own matches. It would appear most people like to make mech builds that work in this game and not on the table top.

[Revis Volek]

Sarlic, on 02 January 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

Lot of pilots in this community have no clue of sportmanship. I find this whole customizjng is getting out of hand. Sure it's fun to customize, but i think there should be small requirements.

Example of bad sportmanship builds: FS with SMPL, Streakcrows, Dual Gauss Crabs, the PPC debacle, Timberwolfs with heavy meta, AC20 or Gauss Cicada and many more.

We all have experienced these builds before. Pilots with these builds dont rolewarfare, they do it for the damage.

I say we need to implent small hardcoded hardpoints in order to weer out this kind of builds.
For example a Direwolf cannot be played without atleast one LRM rack. And a FS with atleast one medium laser point as per excisting lore.

I rather see stock matches then fully customized vomiting laser boats. Meaning: i f-king want clear rolewarfare pilots. Not a e-peen pilot.

Bad sportmanship builds?!?!


Now i have heard everything! and it isnt even lunchtime yet!
How is wanting to run a build that works Bad Sportmanship?

So you think we should all be running XL atlas with LRMS?

Why would we force ONE very finite area of this game (Hardpoints) to stick to lore while allowing the rest of the entire game and universe they are creating go anyway they want?
By your logic because someone uses something that works they are a bad sport. YOU sir are the bad sport learning to LOSE is part of sportsmanship.

And you are saying a Dual Gauss Jager is OK but a dual guass crab is bad sportmanship? A Gauss cicada?!?! Thats a troll build not a bad sport LOL! The PPC debacle? What so BAD SPORT about it?

Love Passive aggressive people....

[Kuritaclan]

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For example a Direwolf cannot be played without atleast one LRM rack.

-lolz - sorry to say it that way. Omnimechs are free to equip whatever the pilot wanna fit in. Making the e/b/m spaces is a limitation that hit. But what you are suggesting is getting sick.

Well i could see a restriction so that you can only change the half of the weapons a stock chassi brings with it, but again than it should be your decions what you wann rip out of the mech of the given for example 6 weapons. And what you fit in place for them. Or a special example WHK Prime with 4 PPC have to use in this case 2 out of the 4 ppcs, the other both could be changed to whatever the pilot wanna fit in like LPLs or 4 ML and a ac or, or or.

In the end this could be a special modus, but nothing mwo should go for general!

Edited by Kuritaclan, 02 January 2015 - 10:16 AM.

[Kensaisama]

Ghost Badger, on 02 January 2015 - 10:09 AM, said:

The only non-customizeable part about clans is the engine (and the Adder flamer...that's it, right?). Their weapons are fully customizable. Taking even part of that away from IS only makes things worse...and less fun.

Opinions vary

[Sarlic]

RG Notch, on 02 January 2015 - 10:11 AM, said:

Well you can do that? OH you want everyone to have to do that There's stock only mode private matches for people who want to play that way. Since it doesn't appear the regular queues are shutting down because so many people are playing that mode I say leave it. People can role play or whatever they want to call making bad mechs in their own matches. It would appear most people like to make mech builds that work in this game and not on the table top.

Whatever they want is exactly the problem.

[AlmightyAeng]

Kensaisama, on 02 January 2015 - 10:12 AM, said:

Opinions vary

I'm generally against the removal of options. I like additional ones though. Hence, I'd vote for a stock queue if people wanted to...but not for added restrictions to customization in all modes.

[Revis Volek]

Ghost Badger, on 02 January 2015 - 10:09 AM, said:

The only non-customizeable part about clans is the engine (and the Adder flamer...that's it, right?). Their weapons are fully customizable. Taking even part of that away from IS only makes things worse...and less fun.

Wrong, Nova has JJ's that cant be removed so do TBR-S side torsos, Summoner has locked stuff, Mist Lynx has locked BAP and JJ's....the list goes on.

So NO there is more locked stuff then just the engines. IS has full customization Clan has about 75%-90% per mech.

Edited by DarthRevis, 02 January 2015 - 10:16 AM.

[Sarlic]

Kuritaclan, on 02 January 2015 - 10:12 AM, said:

For example a Direwolf cannot be played without atleast one LRM rack. -lolz - sorry to say it that way. Omnimechs are free to equip whatever the pilot wanna fit in. Making the e/b/m spaces is a limitation that hit. But what you are suggesting is gettingsick.

Well i could see a restriction so that you cann only change the half of the weapons a stock chassi brings with it, but again than it should be your decions what you wann rip out of the mech of the given for example 6 weapons. And what you fit in place for them.

In the end this could be a special modus, but nothing mwo should go for!

Or make a 'vanille' (stock) que? People dont have to agree what i say, but that's how i think about it.