LordBraxton, on 03 January 2015 - 02:26 PM, said:
I'd start a thread on how to counter Twolves and stormcrows but....
In the hands of top tier players, the holy trinity cannot be countered.
Stop whining because you lost a match as Clams
Perfect example of the current ridiculous double standard. Does not even bother to read the post. Any mention of Clan OP is greeted with cheers, while any examples of overpowered or overbuffed IS is derided into the dirt because clearly the Clan mechs are OP. How dare you say otherwise? What are you, a child molester crying that you are the victim? Gawd!
A problem is a problem is a problem.
Period. Unfortunately, that particular TDR and (I would strongly argue) the KCG are over quirked at the moment. Does this negate any problems, real or imagined, in the holy trinity of the Clan mechs? No. But a problem is a problem, and should not exist if it can be fixed.
Instead of trying to silence anyone who calls a spade a spade, the IS players should be trying to bring the IS mechs that are lacking up to a more even level of usefulness instead of clinging to the one trick pony that is dominating the CW drop decks at the moment, while bringing the problem mechs
down to a more appropriate level so that
all IS mechs are more or less equally solid. You are not the Inquisition. Use your head. Use your logic. Stop clinging to asinine emotional knee jerk reactions.
Said to a web page in the internet where it was promptly ignored.
Meanwhile, the Clans have three mechs that are
extremely arguably slightly over capable. That said, I still have no clue why IS scream bloody murder about the 75 ton TBR, when a 65 ton IS mech like a Jager can double gauss it all day, every day, with minimal exposure, and outright put it down like a sick dog. (Repeat - 75 vs 65 tons.) When the IS have clearly superior light mechs than can leg any mech in two seconds, move fast enough to scout and mess with hit detection, and are small enough to make leading result in bad weapon convergence. I find it hard to qualify the Clans being OP when the IS have superior autocannons, superior missiles, and colder and shorter burn duration lasers - at the expense of range, which is only a significant problem on Alpine or Boreal Vault, and a slight amount of damage in the lasers. I find it extremely hard to qualify it when anything outside of the DW, TBR, and SCR are largely considered crapolla, outside of the HBR, MDG, and WHK which are considered pretty fair and balanced overall.
And these are problems that should be addressed just like how the majority of the IS stable needs to be addressed.
The goal should be making all the mechs more or less equal, not sustaining single chassis dominance over the entire lot of them.
However, until then, the OP is right. You need to counter an advantage with your brain if the mechanisms in the game do not have parity. Smart use of terrain to funnel and focus the enemy is an ideal way to do this. It is still no excuse for the state of quirks in the game, but at least it is a bandaid.
Edited by Pariah Devalis, 04 January 2015 - 08:39 AM.
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