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[Archon]

Only stravag Jaguars would sink so low as to use mercenaries to strike at a neighboring clan. Dishonor runs rampant in their feeble ranks. Their gene pool has grown fetid. I look forward to the dezgra Jaguars' eventual eradication as a result of their folly. You reap what you sow.

Edited by Archon, 16 January 2015 - 10:12 PM.

[Karpundir]

Archon, on 16 January 2015 - 10:11 PM, said:

Only stravag Jaguars would sink so low as to use mercenaries to strike at a neighboring clan. Dishonor runs rampant in their feeble ranks. Their gene pool has grown fetid. I look forward to the dezgra Jaguars' eventual eradication as a result of their folly. You reap what you sow.

Now now... The Jaguars did not ask for this. Mercs can have independent thought, too!

[Von Blumen]

I see we have made the Inner Sphere nervous. Carry on.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Archon, on 16 January 2015 - 10:11 PM, said:

Only stravag Jaguars would sink so low as to use mercenaries to strike at a neighboring clan. Dishonor runs rampant in their feeble ranks. Their gene pool has grown fetid. I look forward to the dezgra Jaguars' eventual eradication as a result of their folly. You reap what you sow.

Not sure if he's RPing or simply does not understand how the game works. Btw, Merc units have been in and out of CW as well my friend. Get back into your glass-Timberwolf.

[SixstringSamurai]

Karpundir, on 16 January 2015 - 07:23 PM, said:

He tells the truth... QQ Mercs chose to come to CSJ and prefers to fight CGB instead of a weakened and divided Kurita, The idea being that MS and CI were still in CGB at the time. Even though I was tipped that CI was going to go to Steiner, I didn't see a contract change yesterday and thought it may have been misdirection, so our mercs voted and decided to go CSJ instead of CJF.

QQ Mercs are here for fights, but we are also here to temper the expansion of CGB as they are clearly here to push anyone out of their way to Terra by using sheer numbers. By allowing them free access to Kurita and FRR space, do you Jaguars not realize that you are being cut-off more and more to Terra? Eventually, you will have to fight CGB, but by that time they may be too big of a juggernaught to take on by being too deep into Kurita territory.

I can tell from your threads that Jaguars feel proud and strong. Prove who is truly worthy of Terra and do not let some sneaky Bears rob you of your end goal. Prove you have what it takes to fight Wolves (oops, I meant Bears!) and not a scattered Kurita faction that poses little opposition.

Thanks for your help. We don't want it? It's pretty cool of your unit to just show up and try to destabilize all of our factions relationships after putting in 0% effort for the faction so far.

[Dracol]

Sicarius Miyamoto Winters, on 16 January 2015 - 10:43 PM, said:

Thanks for your help. We don't want it? It's pretty cool of your unit to just show up and try to destabilize all of our factions relationships after putting in 0% effort for the faction so far.

Just as cool as a few units telling the rest of a faction they can never participate in Clan v Clan CW battles?

[Von Blumen]

Dracol, on 16 January 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

Just as cool as a few units telling the rest of a faction they can never participate in Clan v Clan CW battles?

Yeah, pretty much....nail on the head....by all means go have your battles, the rest of the CSJ community won't support you. Thanks for stopping by....

Edited by Von Blumen, 16 January 2015 - 11:01 PM.

[Dracol]

Von Blumen, on 16 January 2015 - 11:01 PM, said:

Yeah, pretty much....nail on the head....by all means go have your battles, the rest of the CSJ community won't support you. Thanks for stopping by....

Well, considering Karp, Jman, and the rest of the QQ crew captured Byesville without your support, I don't think they'll miss it.

[Odyssey420]

So far fighting Kurita space we haven't seen a single 12 man. It's been pugwarrioronline.we can force 12 mans to come from bear and put up a real fight, Do the rest of you in CSJ truly enjoy fighting such a low quality of players?

[circumvention]

QQ captured Byesville because of a conscious CGB decision to continue south, instead of waste time defending inconsequential worlds.

I'm sure they overwhelmed the automated defenses there with distinction, courage, and honour.

[Vlad Ward]

Dracol, on 16 January 2015 - 11:07 PM, said:

Well, considering Karp, Jman, and the rest of the QQ crew captured Byesville without your support, I don't think they'll miss it.

I'm with this guy. RP is all fun and stuff if you're into that kind of thing, but there are plenty of units that aren't and a line has to be drawn when dealing with them. If I wanted other people telling me what to do all the time, I wouldn't be a unit leader.

Whipping people into a frenzy or smack talking "rogue" units for doing things you may not want them to do will only drive good pilots out of your faction. Play space politics with the ghost bears all you want, just don't pretend that you have any control over or ability to disincentivize PUGs or units who aren't interested in RP'ing with you or otherwise playing along with your master plan. So long as both parties (In this case, CSJ and CGB) understand that, there shouldn't be any problems between you.

[SixstringSamurai]

Dracol, on 16 January 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

Just as cool as a few units telling the rest of a faction they can never participate in Clan v Clan CW battles?

Wasn't what i said. They intentionally joined our faction to attack a longstanding ally in order to help the FRR. So basically griefing our faction.

[Dracol]

Sicarius Miyamoto Winters, on 16 January 2015 - 11:29 PM, said:

Wasn't what i said. They intentionally joined our faction to attack a longstanding ally in order to help the FRR. So basically griefing our faction.

I would say they joined a faction to accept the contracts not being taken by the rest of that faction's units. They maybe giving grief to your unit and others who were part of the ceasefire agreement, but the faction keeps putting out attack orders against Clan Ghost Bear.

[Dracol]

circumvention, on 16 January 2015 - 11:23 PM, said:

I'm sure they overwhelmed the automated defenses there with distinction, courage, and honour.

The amount of practice in unit coordination that can happen when one only drops against turrets can be liberating. If QQ used the opportunity appropriately, Clan Ghost Bear just helped an IS Merc unit become even better.

[Karpundir]

Sicarius Miyamoto Winters, on 16 January 2015 - 10:43 PM, said:

Thanks for your help. We don't want it? It's pretty cool of your unit to just show up and try to destabilize all of our factions relationships after putting in 0% effort for the faction so far.

We did gain you a planet... you guys don't like gaining planets? I think that constitutes more than 0% effort, no???

[Trede]

I think it's cool that you guys are all in to the RP and stuff, but if your faction didn't want us to attack a planet, why are they paying us so well?

[Alexander Steel]

Keep in mind that much like Highlander, in the end there can be only one. So at some point the Clans will start to fight each other, if for no other reason that once a Clan becomes the Ilclan, it "wins" game over and they all want that honor.

[Karpundir]

Alexander Steel, on 16 January 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

Keep in mind that much like Highlander, in the end there can be only one. So at some point the Clans will start to fight each other, if for no other reason that once a Clan becomes the Ilclan, it "wins" game over and they all want that honor.

And right now that is clearly Ghost Bear... thanks to your support via "alliance" when you don't even need it. Explain to me HOW CSJ BENEFITS from this Alliance? Do you really have that hard of a time vs Kurita?

[Alexander Steel]

Trede, on 16 January 2015 - 11:49 PM, said:

I think it's cool that you guys are all in to the RP and stuff, but if your faction didn't want us to attack a planet, why are they paying us so well?

Keep in mind that the faction is controlled by an NPC council that will pick ((except when they are all high as ****)) one world from each faction on your borders. For CSJ that's CGB and Kurita. The PLAYERS who control units and the like have their own faction councils that make deals between each other. Deals that they have no ability to enforce, and generally speaking it's best not to try to act like they do or else you'll end up in a Wolf situation where many of the Merc units gave them the finger after being insulted or only given the chance to be accepted if they agreed to do everything the Wolf leaders told them to. Something most merc units won't accept.

[Alexander Steel]

Karpundir, on 16 January 2015 - 11:54 PM, said:

And right now that is clearly Ghost Bear... thanks to your support via "alliance" when you don't even need it. Explain to me HOW CSJ BENEFITS from this Alliance? Do you really have that hard of a time vs Kurita?

No there is no Ilclan until one of the clans gets to Terra. At that point there would be a huge argument if the condition is simply get to Terra or actually take it. In the lore several clans assisted in the re-taking of Terra from the Word of Blake, but to join the task force they had to agree not to claim to have won the clan race to Terra just because their units landed on the planet and helped defeat the WoBies.

Personally I favor the "and take it" as that seems far more like the Clans in that combat is the ultimate measure of truth and what is right and just landing a unit on a planet seems... weak.