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[Burktross]

LordKnightFandragon, on 21 January 2015 - 03:30 PM, said:

I gotta agree for the most part on that one.

I kinda liked them. Not accurate in little parts, but pretty cool no less.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Burktross, on 21 January 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

I kinda liked them. Not accurate in little parts, but pretty cool no less.

Mechs like the Summoner and Hellbringer? I thought looked horrible in MW4. Mechs like the Hellspawn, ugly little critter.

Even their Warhawk, while it kinda resembled one, it still did look a little...off....

Their Kodiak, Zeus and Dragon were nice.

I did like the Blackheart from the mektek mod. Fun mech to run with unlimited ammo on.

[Suko]

It's not such an issue that I feel PGI needs to spend time to go back and fix it.

But yeah, they're REAL similar in-game. I constantly say mis-identify that mech more than any other. I usually call it out as a Direwolf just to be on the safe side and to grab my team's attention.

I guess you could say that I "cry wolf". =D

[MauttyKoray]

Metus regem, on 21 January 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

Well a lot of the Omni's use the same casting molds for ease and simplifaction of production, I know that the TImber Wolf uses the same leg castings as the Mad Dog, just as the Summoner shares the same leg castings as the Hellbringer. So it stands to reason that the Dire Wolf and Warhawk being both designed by Smoke Jaguar would be designed around common parts as well.

This...right here. I don't know why them being similar is a problem to be honest. Both hurt, both are meaty, both are Assaults.

[LordKnightFandragon]

MauttyKoray, on 21 January 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

This...right here. I don't know why them being similar is a problem to be honest. Both hurt, both are meaty, both are Assaults.

Assaults are not really meaty in this game.

[TELEFORCE]

The USDA says the Warhawk is. Although hunting Dire Wolves is illegal. Something about being a protected species.

[pbiggz]

[Metus regem]

Suko, on 21 January 2015 - 04:59 PM, said:

It's not such an issue that I feel PGI needs to spend time to go back and fix it.

But yeah, they're REAL similar in-game. I constantly say mis-identify that mech more than any other. I usually call it out as a Direwolf just to be on the safe side and to grab my team's attention.

I guess you could say that I "cry wolf". =D

Like a true Jade Turkey... ;P

[Mavairo]

Did someone mention green turkeys?

[Vxheous]

Metus regem, on 21 January 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

So it stands to reason that the Dire Wolf and Warhawk being both designed by Smoke Jaguar would be designed around common parts as well.

The Dire Wolf was designed by Clan Wolf to be their totem mech, but the plans were won by CSJ in a trial of possession. CSJ had nothing to do with the Dire Wolf design, just the manufacture. Ulric Kerensky won a trial of possession against CSJ so Clan Wolf could also manufacture the Dire Wolf

[Escef]

Metus regem, on 21 January 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

So it stands to reason that the Dire Wolf and Warhawk being both designed by Smoke Jaguar would be designed around common parts as well.

Warhawk was a Jaguar design. Dire Wolf was a Clan Wolf design that the Jaguars won control of before the Wolves could even begin production. The Wolves retaliated by challenging the Jaguars for the non-exclusive right to manufacture the design. Both the Wolves and Jaguars field the mech in respectable numbers due to this arrangement.

Edited by Escef, 21 January 2015 - 07:52 PM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Escef, on 21 January 2015 - 07:51 PM, said:

Warhawk was a Jaguar design. Dire Wolf was a Clan Wolf design that the Jaguars won control of before the Wolves could even begin production. The Wolves retaliated by challenging the Jaguars for the non-exclusive right to manufacture the design. Both the Wolves and Jaguars field the mech in respectable numbers due to this arrangement.

So did Clan Wolf never really field the Warhawks?

[Escef]

LordKnightFandragon, on 21 January 2015 - 07:53 PM, said:

So did Clan Wolf never really field the Warhawks?

Just about every clan fields Warhawks. The Jaguars made it to be their primary assault for the invasion, but then the Dragoon Compromise happened. Since the Jaguars greatly favor conquest over trade, that means these mechs got spread around a lot over the 40-odd years between the Compromise and the Invasion.

[pbiggz]

LordKnightFandragon, on 21 January 2015 - 07:53 PM, said:

So did Clan Wolf never really field the Warhawks?

jaguars jealously guarded the warhawk's plans and manufacturing rights.
Other clans fielded them in limited numbers, those mechs were obtained as isorla, gift, or trading. Other clans did field them, but not in great numbers, and nobody but the jaguars had manufacturing rights.

Edited by pbiggz, 21 January 2015 - 08:02 PM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

pbiggz, on 21 January 2015 - 08:00 PM, said:

jaguars jealously guarded the warhawk's plans and manufacturing rights.
Other clans fielded them in limited numbers, those mechs were obtained as isorla, gift, or trade

What is Isorla? Trial victory? What language do the Clans use? Sibko, Isorla, Khan, words like that....

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 21 January 2015 - 08:03 PM.

[Escef]

LordKnightFandragon, on 21 January 2015 - 08:02 PM, said:

What is Isorla? Trial victory? What language do the Clans use? Sibko, Isorla, Khan, words like that....

Isorla = the spoils of war
Sibko = Sibling company. A company is an old unit of military organization (currently in use in the real world). Clan children are raised in large groups. People that you were raised with are referred to as Sibkin (those born from the same batch of children that would be called brothers or sisters elsewhere are called trothkin). During the Battle of Coventry, Clan Jade Falcon made up for losses amongst their warriors by treating the battle as a Trial of Positioning for those about to graduate from their Sibkos (some warriors disparagingly referred to this nascent warriors as "sibbies").
Khan = the leader of a clan, the second in command is the saKhan, the ilKhan is the leader of the inter-clan Grand Council

Edited by Escef, 21 January 2015 - 08:17 PM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Escef, on 21 January 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Isorla = the spoils of war
Sibko = Sibling company. A company is an old unit of military organization (currently in use in the real world). Clan children are raised in large groups. People that you were raised with are referred to as Sibkin (those born from the same batch of children from that would be called brothers or sisters elsewhere are called trothkin). During the Battle of Coventry, Clan Jade Falcon made up for losses amongst their warriors by treating the battle as a Trial of Positioning for those about to graduate from their Sibkos (some warriors disparagingly referred to this nascent warriors as "sibbies").
Khan = the leader of a clan, the second in command is the saKhan, the ilKhan is the leader of the inter-clan Grand Council

What language are those words derived from?

[TheSilken]

I hate looking at the Dire Wolf and Warhawk concept art, it always reminds me that the in game ones look a lot fatter and less awesome.

[Escef]

LordKnightFandragon, on 21 January 2015 - 08:14 PM, said:

What language are those words derived from?

English for most of them. A smattering of Russian for some (the Kerensky family was Russian). A few words from other languages here and there (Khan is... Mongolian, I think).

[DjPush]

mogs01gt, on 21 January 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:

That moment when you come around a corner and scream, " **** its a Dire! Ohh wait no its a just a Whawk, I'll be fine".

You have obviously never been anywhere near one of my Warhawks.