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#21 Steel Talon

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:09 AM

every mech has its own role, some are similar, but never the same
NOT all lights are scouts
NOT all assaults are brawlers

Know your mech, know yor weapons & unleash hell

#22 Phasics

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:13 AM

Actually if you want to get any good advice only gets you so far, after that its practice practice practice ;)

#23 Urulf

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:31 AM

kill them all, dont let them kill yours, that's the deal ? ;)

#24 Kumakichi

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:38 AM

Holy smokes that big wall of text. You realise a lot of players wont know how to play well with others, meaning they will run around and shoot things but wont do much to contribute to a win. And others wont care. You see it all the time in others online games. Those people would rather get most kills/do most damage and lose than play there role.

Edited by Kumakichi, 29 June 2012 - 04:39 AM.


#25 Belorion

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

Added circle strafing.

View PostKumakichi, on 29 June 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

Holy smokes that big wall of text. You realise a lot of players wont know how to play well with others, meaning they will run around and shoot things but wont do much to contribute to a win. And others wont care. You see it all the time in others online games. Those people would rather get most kills/do most damage and lose than play there role.


Such is the way of such things. Typically the people that these kind of write ups helps the most are the people who have had some sort of epiphany about playing to win, and then seek out more information. Or those who know how to win at other games, but are new to the game in question. Scrubs either won't read it, or scoff at sound advice.

Edited by Belorion, 01 July 2012 - 05:28 PM.


#26 Rychard Starheart

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:26 PM

View PostBelorion, on 28 June 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

How to Win


Kill the other guy before he kills you.

#27 General Corleone

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:31 PM

Good work!

#28 Skadi

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:34 PM

View PostHawkeye 72, on 28 June 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:



NDA breach!!! Oh...wait...this is general discussion...

Dubiously eyes this guide to winning. Wonders about what games Belorion has been playing lately

Generally focused fire on the weakest opponent in the lance is the opposite of what you want to do

Thats debateable, if your lance can hit up a light mech all at the same time you may have the combined firepower to take him out right then, before he even has a chance to fire off a shot.

#29 Vandul

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:34 PM

According to most of the trolls in these forums, we apparently pay to win.

#30 Skadi

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:38 PM

View PostVandul, on 01 July 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

According to most of the trolls in these forums, we apparently pay to win.

Dem XP/C-bill boosts bro, they OP.

#31 Calisrue

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

Nice post in general

Killing the weakest first isn't a bad idea per se, but it seems to work out less in mechwarrior than in other games. If you're in an Atlas and waste a big alpha strike on a scout and miss (or even hit but the scout disengages behind a hill to lick his wounds and come back while your back is turned) and their Atlas alpha strikes you, suddenly you're closer to either being dead or having one of your major weapon systems gone/etc. and at a serious disadvantage.

definitely agree with focus fire in general though. It actually makes sense, particularly if you have some autocannons, to focus on the the guy with the heaviest throw weight (weight of weapons) - if you and your lancemates rain enough ordinance into the big guy to keep him rocking, he'll be less able to aim his heavy weapons against your team.

There are also times in the more intense group firefights that it makes sense to move onto the next enemy in a group before finishing off an enemy that has been defanged (all or almost all weapons destroyed)

#32 Saren21

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:01 PM

I think the OP has some good points becuase as any one who has planed out a game,battle, Build order(SC) ect.. will tell you its good to at least have an out line of a plan or set of tactics your going to use.

Going for the weeker mech may not always be prudent comanders may use the old bait and switch ploy if they see your useing that tactic however the point i am trying to make is not of "flaws" in his plan but to simply state he has a plan and thats a good start.

Early on sadly 80% of the pugs you join up with will not have any kind of plan other then to throw them selfs at the enemy. Once a "battle rhythm" starts to take hold of the game and players get more time under there belts you will see alot more planing and setting up of choke points and ambush spots on maps most players will just fall in to line save for the few who always just seem to run head long in to the enemy lines do there death.

#33 GHQCommander

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:23 PM

View PostHawkeye 72, on 28 June 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:



NDA breach!!! Oh...wait...this is general discussion...

Dubiously eyes this guide to winning. Wonders about what games Belorion has been playing lately

Generally focused fire on the weakest opponent in the lance is the opposite of what you want to do


I know eh.



Belorion


I'm going to remember your name, it is going on my hitlist. Either you have played beta and now your being a smart **** or your just being a smart ****.

Lets roll with the PvP boys, kill em all!!!

#34 Saren21

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:36 PM

View PostGHQCommander, on 01 July 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:


I know eh.



Belorion


I'm going to remember your name, it is going on my hitlist. Either you have played beta and now your being a smart **** or your just being a smart ****.

Lets roll with the PvP boys, kill em all!!!



Wow K.O.S (kill on site) statis in under 50 posts. i am impressed .... I think the only other guy to pull that off was paul but he is a dev sooo ya know...

#35 Belorion

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

Won't be the first KoS list I have been on(maybe for this game), and I sure it won't be the last...

#36 Saren21

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:03 PM

View PostBelorion, on 01 July 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Won't be the first KoS list I have been on(maybe for this game), and I sure it won't be the last...


yeah i guess its not as bad as some other games... we all will be playing on the same server at the start up of this game so to get you he would have to sift though the masses of players and games to hopefuly get in you your game to kill you.





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