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[MoonUnitBeta]

With VOIP coming, I think it's a fact that some people feel uncomfortable/unsure about how to effectively use it without annoying people. I know in some occasions with other games(mainly WoW), it's kept me from communicating what I thought was important information; I didn't actually know if it was actually important information, and if it was, I didn't know how to say it.

Since the number of listeners decide the merit of VoIP, we obviously want to encourage as many people to use it as possible, without the headache/annoyances that comes with it for listeners.

I'd like to open this thread up to anyone who would like to see a structured form of communicating important information between each other, and anyone who would like help on the subject.

Please share your input about what you expect to hear over VoIP, "short-hand" ways of conveying information verbally, and/or any other advice you want to share.

So, with your help, let's clear up a few things:
1) What is important information?
2) How do you ask for help?
3) What's the best way to notify your team of the enemy's location?
4) What is the best way to describe what the team is doing?
5) How do you get players to focus your target?
. . .


I view in-game VOIP having vast differences that need to be considered when comparing to closed servers used for groups. Why?

• Everyone's a stranger in a PUG. Talking to people you don't know can seem weird at first.
  
• Hearing other peoples voice is strange to some people too, and takes a bit to get used to.
  
• People listening expect relevant information, (I know I don't want to listen to your life stories as you banter on in-game VoIP between your friends.)
  
• You have to be mindful of everyone who can hear you. Some things you can get away with in your usual VoIP server that would otherwise be distasteful publicly (on in-game VoIP).

It's these types of things that act as a barricade for anyone who is exposed to VoIP. Resulting in either holding back information, or them simply turning it off.

This is just the beginning.
I would greatly appreciate to see other threads popping up that help solo players universally talk with each other with ease, rather than talking down to them for not liking VoIP.

VoIP is something that you grow into. If you and if any of you want to see it prevail, you help others grow to like it and teach them how to use it. Without people that listen, your words account for nothing; and without people who speak, your actions are flawed.

In the long run, I hope that maybe this discussion can be used as a reference for someone who feels inspired to create a guide on how to use VoIP.

[superteds]

why are people treating voip as some magical unicorn?

you say where you are
you say what's engaging you
you call a primary

have people really never used a mic before?

[waterfowl]

superteds, on 24 January 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

why are people treating voip as some magical unicorn?

you say where you are
you say what's engaging you
you call a primary

have people really never used a mic before?

pretty much. All you have to say is "CHECK, BOGIES E4", "BRAVO'S TORSO CRIT" etc

[MilesTeg1982]

waterfowl, on 24 January 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

pretty much. All you have to say is "CHECK, BOGIES E4", "BRAVO'S TORSO CRIT" etc

the sad truth is - people who actually want to do effective teamwork and care about the team might do that - but in pugs you'll find so many people who just give a crap about the team - this will never work.

Just look at the chat at the begin of a pug match - its very rarely to have match without some trolls - giving them VoIP means you'll start a match with some 12year old screaming some nonsense into the mic - so most people will turn it off anyway (at least in pugs)

[Eider]

More than likely by pressing mute. I expect the usual, people screaming randomly into mic, people playing music through it, little kids using as many swear words as they can, holloring like monkeys. Xbox live taught me one thing its that you dont always want to hear what the other person is saying. Maybe i will be wrong.. big maybe.

[Artgathan]

I intend to use it to force everyone on my team to endure my terrible musical choices. Hope y'all enjoy my Skrillex/Justin Beiber mashups

[Mudhutwarrior]

Solos run on instinct and intuition mostly to be effective. I figure it will shake out and when you drop with a decent lance and operate effectively others will pick up on it. Group guys like to force everything their way. Let's be open source about it and let nature take its course.

Of course the guys who build the box want you to fit into it. Screw the box. Out of chaos comes change.

[Davers]

Mudhutwarrior, on 24 January 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

Solos run on instinct and intuition mostly to be effective. I figure it will shake out and when you drop with a decent lance and operate effectively others will pick up on it. Group guys like to force everything their way. Let's be open source about it and let nature take its course.

Of course the guys who build the box want you to fit into it. Screw the box. Out of chaos comes change.

Is Noesis your alt account?

[MoonUnitBeta]

Bump.
Now that VOIP is out, and seeing how no one uses it edit: very little people use it. Maybe we can try talking about how best to talk with your team again?

I'm hoping we can turn this into a general resource that we could use to help new players understand and learn to appreciate the benefits VOIP offers.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 24 February 2015 - 05:38 PM.