24 replies to this topic

[Verkhne]

Just had a nice drop as pugs versus a 12 man. Good game with a victory to us! ty Pug guys

[Lukoi Banacek]

Puguars are quite solid typically.

[TheSilken]

Beware the Pugaur's roar!

[dervishx5]

[Anarcho]

dervishx5, on 24 January 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

when a 12 man group got beaten by pugs, yes, its nice... And you guys almost lost without that firestarter rush at the end too..

[dervishx5]

It's a whole different game you guys aren't used to playing. Have fun!

[Anarcho]

dervishx5, on 24 January 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

It's a whole different game you guys aren't used to playing. Have fun!

I was at your company when CW was still a dream, and yes I know how you guys roll, its different, and thats what makes a pug team beat you guys waaaay more fun.

[dervishx5]

And what company would that be?

Edited by dervishx5, 24 January 2015 - 10:12 PM.

[Anarcho]

dervishx5, on 24 January 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

And what company would that be?

I don't want say it, because if I am wrong, it will be shameful, lol. But just had 3 games with the same team about 1 hour ago, so I guess you know who Im talking about...

[dervishx5]

If it's BWC, I'm not in BWC. A group of 2nd Tier Marik pugs attacked CSJ for the heck of it tonight and won every time.

I'm just curious to see what solution you guys come up to for the light rush, since as Clanners you can't really do one yourselves.

Unless you get the firemoth. >_>

[Anarcho]

Back to the light rush topic Robin!

[Bear4188]

dervishx5, on 24 January 2015 - 10:18 PM, said:

If it's BWC, I'm not in BWC. A group of 2nd Tier Marik pugs attacked CSJ for the heck of it tonight and won every time.

I'm just curious to see what solution you guys come up to for the light rush, since as Clanners you can't really do one yourselves.

Unless you get the firemoth. >_>

Clan streak boats are the ultimate answer to defending the light rush. They stop it dead in its track. The only trick is recognizing which units are likely to rush and having the streak boats ready.

As far as rushing is concerned a stormcrow rush is extremely deadly. More typically it's not really necessary to make a specific rush deck because everything but the direwolf is fast and packing a ton of firepower.

[Potato Farmer]

Puguars > Puritas, nuff said. Most I ever saw was 3 Puritas defending their own planet.

[Czarr]

Lots of good pugs in Smoke jageur. I enjoyed playing with them and the FRR the most, the only reason why i went to house liao was for the c bills

[Von Blumen]

dervishx5, on 24 January 2015 - 10:18 PM, said:

If it's BWC, I'm not in BWC. A group of 2nd Tier Marik pugs attacked CSJ for the heck of it tonight and won every time.

I'm just curious to see what solution you guys come up to for the light rush, since as Clanners you can't really do one yourselves.

Unless you get the firemoth. >_>

Drop against JGx and we will show you how to defeat a light rush...

we don't need a light rush, we can now jump the walls with WHALES....

Edited by Von Blumen, 27 January 2015 - 01:16 AM.

[Crockdaddy]

Von Blumen, on 27 January 2015 - 01:13 AM, said:

Drop against JGx and we will show you how to defeat a light rush...

we don't need a light rush, we can now jump the walls with WHALES....

I wanna some JJs on my Atlas Brawler! Oh and an XL engine which does't kill me would be nice too! ;p (yes I am Jelly)

[Sprouticus]

Bulbasaur ICHOOSEYOU, on 25 January 2015 - 12:32 AM, said:

Puguars > Puritas, nuff said. Most I ever saw was 3 Puritas defending their own planet.

This is the thing. When we attack, we are not fight DC. DC has decided to just let the pugs from the other facitos defend their planets and focus on FS since they don't have to worry about the frustration of losing due to a mishmosh of pugs.


I will say that having dropped with other clans on their defenses, the CSJ pugs are a step above.

They listen.
They join TS a large % of the time.
They can aim.

Those 3 things make them amazing as solo player allies. Calling them pugs seems like a disservice to be honest.

(It also helps that some of them are unit players who happen to be dropping solo.)

[Tony Benoit]

Sprouticus, on 27 January 2015 - 06:27 AM, said:

This is the thing. When we attack, we are not fight DC. DC has decided to just let the pugs from the other facitos defend their planets and focus on FS since they don't have to worry about the frustration of losing due to a mishmosh of pugs.


I will say that having dropped with other clans on their defenses, the CSJ pugs are a step above.

They listen.
They join TS a large % of the time.
They can aim.

Those 3 things make them amazing as solo player allies. Calling them pugs seems like a disservice to be honest.

(It also helps that some of them are unit players who happen to be dropping solo.)

I think you are confusing plebs with pugs. Pugs really are just Pick Up Group players, which could be good or bad. Pleb (Plebeian) is a straight up negative term, usually referring to terrible public players. The IS pugs are plebs, but Jag pugs are good.

Edited by NotMwHighlander, 27 January 2015 - 11:03 AM.

[Crockdaddy]

Is it that Jag Puguars are good, or that IS Pugs would have to read a quirk system technical readout to have a chance in hell of making a decent mech build to sorta match Tier 1 Clan mechs?


I from experience somewhat agree the skill level in clan pugs are often greater than I have noticed in IS Plebs. But in many cases once NS recruits a baby lizard and is able to work on builds and team orientation we have been able to turn them into full Dragons.

So I am uncertain if it is simply basic clan mechs are better than most (not all) basic IS mechs. *shrug* ... not sure but your pugs are often a cut above the other clan pugs that I have run into. Maybe one day internal comms will be on and I can more directly help IS pugs er ... plebs or whatever you want to call them.

[Frankenst3in]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 27 January 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

Is it that Jag Puguars are good, or that IS Pugs would have to read a quirk system technical readout to have a chance in hell of making a decent mech build to sorta match Tier 1 Clan mechs?

I think thats a big factor. You have to screw up really, really bad in the mechlab to make a terribad clan mech, while it is really easy to screw up an IS build for the uninformed. Like, I feel like I have been killing far too many XL Stalkers/Atlai, Assault LRM boats, etc., just really bad builds. The worst I see out of puguars is LRM heavy teams very occasionally.