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[Tennex]

SgtKinCaiD, on 26 January 2015 - 07:45 AM, said:

Yep, several Mechs lost their custom animation when PGI disable the inverted Kinematics.

oh i mean the shoulder popin

made the mech less stiff lookin

Edited by Tennex, 26 January 2015 - 08:11 AM.

[Lily from animove]

btw what we see there, are they true own decals, or are they only part of that skin?

[Vassago Rain]

Lily from animove, on 26 January 2015 - 09:12 AM, said:

btw what we see there, are they true own decals, or are they only part of that skin?

They're actual decals. The system was supposed to go in a long time ago, but was delayed, then dropped for years.

[Tennex]

Lily from animove, on 26 January 2015 - 09:12 AM, said:

btw what we see there, are they true own decals, or are they only part of that skin?

its the in development working decal system. they posted the teaser a while back in a dev vlog. they are currently working on the user interface for it

[Deathlike]

When the camos inevitably look like the Misery once scratched, it is more or less over.

OVAAAHHHHH I SAY!

[LordBraxton]

It kills me that you can see the inverse kinematics working just fine on those MW4 screenshots but 10 years later we cant have it in MWO. IK makes the animations look 10x better. I'm all for decals but IK needs to be a priority.

[DaZur]

Joseph Mallan, on 26 January 2015 - 02:15 AM, said:

Nice, but if we are not in that FedCom unit we should not have that scheme.

Marshall of teh Armies Jackson Davion says so.

Why is Jackson Davion's Battlemaster armed with a left-handed personal massage device?

Edited by DaZur, 26 January 2015 - 12:10 PM.

[Ghogiel]

DaZur, on 26 January 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

Why is Jackson Davion's Battlemaster armed with a left-handed personal massage device?

Check out the size of the other one on the right hand tho.

[terrycloth]

Wasn't IK working in MWO earlier, and they turned it off?

[LordBraxton]

terrycloth, on 26 January 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

Wasn't IK working in MWO earlier, and they turned it off?

Yes, when PGI can't get a core feature to work well they just scrap it. Closed beta had better graphics, better animations (+IK) and collisions. Because the systems weren't perfect PGI forgot about them instead of fixing them. I cant explain the graphics part though. MWO was MUCH crisper and smoother up until the Cicada patch. I remember when the Cicada released everything started looking like **** and it never recovered. The anti-aliasing alone seemed to take a MASSIVE hit after that patch, and to this day MWO looks grainy where it used to look buttery smooth.

Edited by LordBraxton, 26 January 2015 - 01:10 PM.

[Lily from animove]

Tennex, on 26 January 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

its the in development working decal system. they posted the teaser a while back in a dev vlog. they are currently working on the user interface for it

I knwo they work on it now, but those pics look a lot older, so I thoght they were kinda artifacts from the past the OP was reffering to.

[Tarogato]

Pretty sure the shoulders thing is still in. I see Awesomes flexing their side torsos and Atlases lugging theirs around bouncily every day.

TOTALLY AGREE about the damage textures, though. They need to make those textures like 50% transparent or something so we can actually see what the mech was supposed to look like. Or just redo them entirely, but we know PGI is lazy. They might as well just turn them off, would save on server load. *facepalm*

[CocoaJin]

zudukai, on 25 January 2015 - 06:23 PM, said:

nah, they would be exchanged alongside the loadout info, less then a few KB's is not going to make a significant impact, besides, if there are any graphical issues, they probably would just not render on the mech,

heck why not have it as a check box like all chat?

PGI stated it has the reason for its removal. It wasn't worth the server costs to track and relay it.

[Tennex]

Tarogato, on 26 January 2015 - 01:13 PM, said:

Pretty sure the shoulders thing is still in. I see Awesomes flexing their side torsos and Atlases lugging theirs around bouncily every day.

TOTALLY AGREE about the damage textures, though. They need to make those textures like 50% transparent or something so we can actually see what the mech was supposed to look like. Or just redo them entirely, but we know PGI is lazy. They might as well just turn them off, would save on server load. *facepalm*

This old damage texture was pretty cool. but it still occluded the mech colors.

what what ru gona do? for the sake of realism, an AC20 shot through the side torso might scratch the paint a bit

Edited by Tennex, 26 January 2015 - 01:20 PM.

[Lily from animove]

Tarogato, on 26 January 2015 - 01:13 PM, said:

Pretty sure the shoulders thing is still in. I see Awesomes flexing their side torsos and Atlases lugging theirs around bouncily every day.

TOTALLY AGREE about the damage textures, though. They need to make those textures like 50% transparent or something so we can actually see what the mech was supposed to look like. Or just redo them entirely, but we know PGI is lazy. They might as well just turn them off, would save on server load. *facepalm*

So I am porbably the only one who likes that my mech after a tough battle looks like the moons landscape?

I mean its tons of armor getting ripped and holes shot in, so this is how the result would look like.

Edited by Lily from animove, 26 January 2015 - 01:22 PM.

[Tennex]

Lily from animove, on 26 January 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:

So I am porbably the only one who likes that my mech after a tough battle looks like the moons landscape?

I mean its tons of armor getting ripped and holes shot in, so this is how the result would look like.

gotta admit, lasers making craters doesn't make sense tho

[Kristov Kerensky]

Tennex, on 26 January 2015 - 01:26 PM, said:

gotta admit, lasers making craters doesn't make sense tho

Depends on whether or not the beam sat in one spot long enough to burn a hole into the armor plating or if it raked the plating leaving a gouge, both of which can be seen as damage textures.

Seriously, if your Mech was shot up during combat, your paint job will be all kinds of mucked up, no two ways about it, so complaining that a beat up Mech LOOKS beat up...really?

As to the IK...well...I do understand their reason for pulling it. Engine wasn't made to be all server side controlled, they've had to do some major heavy duty work to make that happen, so this may be one of those things that takes longer to get working right due to that fact alone. Do I want it working, hell yes. Do I even NOTICE it when I'm playing..no.

[Tennex]

Kristov Kerensky, on 26 January 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

Depends on whether or not the beam sat in one spot long enough to burn a hole into the armor plating or if it raked the plating leaving a gouge, both of which can be seen as damage textures.

Seriously, if your Mech was shot up during combat, your paint job will be all kinds of mucked up, no two ways about it, so complaining that a beat up Mech LOOKS beat up...really?

As to the IK...well...I do understand their reason for pulling it. Engine wasn't made to be all server side controlled, they've had to do some major heavy duty work to make that happen, so this may be one of those things that takes longer to get working right due to that fact alone. Do I want it working, hell yes. Do I even NOTICE it when I'm playing..no.

honestly i wouldn't mind a check box just for my game to show the client side effects of correct leg positions. I don't care if i miss the actual server side leg position.

[HARDKOR]

If you aren't getting the server side leg position correctly you are going to have hit registration issues.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

I want good damage textures.

But I'd MUCH rather have the OLD textures, instead of the one's we've had just prior to the misery release. It's like, they made the misery skin, and went "Throw that on everything as the damage texture!"

I hate it, it looks like crap and doesn't make me feel like I've damaged a mech, it makes me feel like I've charred a pizza.

I wish I could find the high quality pic from MW3's damage model, but paint would peel away, and would reveal wiring and circuitry and myomer. THAT is what I want to see in MWO...

When a game from 1999 has a better damage model than a game in 2015, there's a problem.