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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

http://www.cyberpowe...om/saved/1E9LGP

AMD FX-4170 4.20 GHz Quad-Core AM3+ CPU 4MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology (OC 10% so 4.62 gig I cant put $30 more in to get the 5 gig)
8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair XMS with Heat Spreader)
AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by AMD)

And what quality you think itll run the game at? Im looking at putting some money into this thing, I dont wanna end up on medium lol

[Stray Ion]

Seriously?

Everything is fine but your videocard. http://www.hwcompare...radeon-hd-7770/

Here is how it compairs to the minimum http://www.hwcompare...radeon-hd-7770/

You might be able to run at medium, but not higher.

Edited by Stray Ion, 28 June 2012 - 06:32 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Yes seriously, I havent updated a computer in like 5 or 6 years at least.
What would be the minimum for High? IE higher than medium to run at decent speeds?

I wanna see IF I can even throw that much at it or as I dealing with medium. Im not looking to throw a thousand dollars into a new system

NVM I found the recommended card here http://www.videocard...h_end_gpus.html

Edited by 514yer, 28 June 2012 - 06:45 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

I think the closest I can get with the money I have is Radeon HD 6850 http://www.videocard...=Radeon+HD+6850
Which actually rates higher than http://www.videocard...=Radeon+HD+5830 there

[Stray Ion]

price vs value is good, but the links I posted show how your currect card compairs to the minimum and recommended card. I don't have the answers as far as what would be the minimum for high, only the developers can tell you that. I just go to how it compairs with the requirements.

The 6850 http://www.hwcompare...radeon-hd-6850/ it is only lacking in texal rate 5830 is 44800 Mtexels/sec and the lower 6850 is 37200 Mtexels/sec, but that is only where it is lacking. The radeon HD 5670 only has 15500 Mtexels/sec.

The 6850 may rate higher than the 5830, but the 5830 will have a higher frame rate. Personally I don't see the point of having 60fps, you eyes can't really detect the difference past 32fps (not exact but I know its around 30). You may get some blurring but if things are moving that fast they would be blurry anyways.

If you can afford it, the 6850 should have a better resolution than your 7770. Though the 6850 texel rate is only 1800 Mtexels/sec less than your 7770 which isn't that much.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

so this should (maybe) http://www.cyberpowe...om/saved/1E9LVY be more into the recommended range then?

[Stray Ion]

With the exception of the video card, it would be overkill for this game (if the same things are selected). As far as future proofing it is only gen2 PCIe. I know Asus has gen3 PCIe MOBO's out already, but when you can afford it, that MOBO can still add another HD 6850 in crossfire.

I didn't click enough to get the final price, but if your happy with it, it should play MWO just fine and should be above medium (just playing it safe as IMO it should be high with some options tweaking).

I see they had the Radeon HD 6950 listed which I know exceeds the HD 5830 in every aspect by alot. I don't know how much it will affect the price there, but I know Amazon.com has a Sapphire HD 6950 for around $220. Plus with a flick of a switch the sapphire will overlock to a stock 6970. I know it will be more money, but I would upgrade to it if it was less than $100 in the final price. Oh and I know of only the Sapphire brand having that overclocking switch.

[Dragonstrike]

Going to have to upgrade my pc. My local Maplins store has this motherboard bundle for sale at £199.00
Asus M5A78l-M LX Motherboard. AMD FX -4100 Black Edition and 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Ram. Is this a good Deal

Will have to stick with my video card which is a Asus GT 440 for now. What card would you recommend.

[talbs]

What about a new ssd drive

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Stray Ion, on 28 June 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

With the exception of the video card, it would be overkill for this game (if the same things are selected). As far as future proofing it is only gen2 PCIe. I know Asus has gen3 PCIe MOBO's out already, but when you can afford it, that MOBO can still add another HD 6850 in crossfire.

I didn't click enough to get the final price, but if your happy with it, it should play MWO just fine and should be above medium (just playing it safe as IMO it should be high with some options tweaking).

I see they had the Radeon HD 6950 listed which I know exceeds the HD 5830 in every aspect by alot. I don't know how much it will affect the price there, but I know Amazon.com has a Sapphire HD 6950 for around $220. Plus with a flick of a switch the sapphire will overlock to a stock 6970. I know it will be more money, but I would upgrade to it if it was less than $100 in the final price. Oh and I know of only the Sapphire brand having that overclocking switch.

http://www.cyberpowe...om/saved/1E9N1R

that would be ideal then?

I have a hard cap of $800 so to get under that I had to drop the CPU to 3.6 but I still got in the video card

Edited by 514yer, 29 June 2012 - 08:25 AM.

[Stray Ion]

514yer, on 29 June 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

http://www.cyberpowe...om/saved/1E9N1R that would be ideal then? I have a hard cap of $800 so to get under that I had to drop the CPU to 3.6 but I still got in the video card

I would stick with the original with 4.2ghz and with your HD 6850. You may not be playing on high setting but you will be playing.

In the future you can always pick up another HD 6850 and crossfire (most of the time linking two outdated videocards together is cheaper than buying top of the line and they would be around the same in performance, but not all would have the room (you do have) or the power supply big enough to handle it, (you should have)or replace it with something better. Video cards are a lot easier to replace than PCU's.

Your original with 2 HD6850 you should get years of gaming out of it with out worrying, and your 4.2ghz quad CPU is fast enough to still allow upgradablitly when it comes to GPU, your only limitation is your gen2 PCIe's, but I doubt they will become completely obsolite for a while.

LOL if liquid cooling was not free I would say get rid of it as there is no need to OC that system for some time, that alone should have given you enough room to get a better vid card. But it's free and your foolish to pass up something that is free.

[Stray Ion]

Dragonstrike, on 29 June 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Going to have to upgrade my pc. My local Maplins store has this motherboard bundle for sale at £199.00 Asus M5A78l-M LX Motherboard. AMD FX -4100 Black Edition and 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Ram. Is this a good Deal Will have to stick with my video card which is a Asus GT 440 for now. What card would you recommend.

I don't know if it is a good deal, though I would stay clear of 1333mhz ram if your MOBO can support faster. I am only familiar with USD. It isn't much to search for, you could go to a couple big online retailer (amazon/newegg) and check prices individually. If it was close I would say buy it from your local store as it is always best, plus you leave with it in your hand and their is no worry about a damaged delivery.

IMO even a 10% mark up is close including shipping. Unfortunatly a locally owned computer store in my small town still has huge mark ups even when I factor in next day delivery.

As for you vid card, it depends on how much you can spend and whether or not you're a fanboy of a brand lol.

[BigJim]

"Moo Power?"

Stray Ion, on 28 June 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

. I don't have the answers as far as what would be the minimum for high, only the developers can tell you that. I just go to how it compairs with the requirements.

I know it's not normally cool to link to your own threads, but I've just been through the same process as the OP, and got about the best feedback I could have hoped for to narrow down those parts.
(as a second rig, it meant getting all new components, not just replacing the 3x big ones)

Imo he should be able to beat that considerably if $800 is the limit - My £500 build (£780) looks like it ought to perform better mainly due to the GPU & things can be pretty expensive over here..

Lower-spec processor, but it shouldn't hurt CryEngine 3 (and an FX chip can always be dropped in later on an AM3+ mobo), but it gives you more headroom on that GPU.


Do please read some of the comments by other posters in the thread, they do help explain what you can, and can't really afford to "skimp" on & it helped me immensely - Also it'd be nice if their collective common sense wasn't just spent on me. Best of luck fella.

Edited by BigJim, 29 June 2012 - 12:31 PM.

[PewPew]

OP, what are you using this computer for? Your processor is overkill for gaming, and if you're doing processor intensive stuff, Intel is better for that anyway.

I think you can downgrade your CPU for 20-50 dollars and put it into your card. The graphics card is definitely going to be your frame-rate bottleneck in this case.

Also, a word of warning. Cyberpowerpc is known for its unreliable builds and TERRIBLE service. If something goes wrong, you're screwed. I've heard of then keeping stickers and packaging stuck to their internals, which results in something burning up inside your pc. Building your own computer is an easy task and may save you 100-200 dollars which you can put into performance parts.

Whatever you decide to do, you're going to need to update that card to run it on high. I'm pretty sure if you either dropped your processor or built the computer yourself, you could run the game on max settings with the same cost.

[Stray Ion]

BigJim, though I am not the OP on here I am thankfull. Chances are I would have never seen your thread if not for your link. There are way too many computer recommendation threads on here. I tend to only check what is in the "recently active" sections.

After reading the OP and scimming through the rest. This post defenitely caught my eye.

Garth Erlam, on 29 June 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

People have covered most of what I would have said (avoid dual-cores especially) - I'd say though that anything above a 560ti is unnecessary. 560ti/6950 GPU's cover virtually any game, maxed, at 1080p. So anything above that is slightly above the curve.

Whenever possible I do recommend future proofing if the money is negligible. Its great to play game at max settings now, but its even better to be able to play games that come out in a few years at at least high instead of medium.

I'm suprised it took so long for others to reply and that there is not 50 posts in this topic with links to newegg. I am unsure if the site the OP chose will build the system or just ship the parts.

One thing I take into consideration is the the ability of others. If they are asking about a set up they could either be clueless of computers, or like I was up until a month ago and just not stay current on all that is out there due to future proofing a machine years ago.

I really hope more people post to this thread with advice or links to other threads as long as it is within the OP's ability level (I have no idea what it is).

Edited by Stray Ion, 29 June 2012 - 01:59 PM.

[BigJim]

Stray Ion, on 29 June 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

One thing I take into consideration is the the ability of others. If they are asking about a set up they could either be clueless of computers, or like I was up until a month ago and just not stay current on all that is out there due to future proofing a machine years ago.

Exactly my position - Last time I had to think about a gaming rig the choice was AGP or PCI-e, the time before that was if your PSU could power 2x Voodoo 2s *and* your soundblaster.

[Stray Ion]

BigJim, on 29 June 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

Exactly my position - Last time I had to think about a gaming rig the choice was AGP or PCI-e, the time before that was if your PSU could power 2x Voodoo 2s *and* your soundblaster.

Lol Voodoo. When I went and bought a Voodoo3 a few months later they went under, but at least you could get thrid party support for years after.

Although I wasn't building computers at the time, I remember when you needed a sound card unless you wanted to listen to the awesomeness of the PC piezo speaker. Also lets not forget the almighty "TURBO" botton that came with on 486.

[Doomliger]

i thk just get a different graphics card, a 6870 instead of the 7770 will be fine on almost high quality.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

BigJim, on 29 June 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

"Moo Power?"

It was free I havent decided on it yet lol it was a placeholder

Ive heard about the iffy cyberpower built quality, I DIDNT know it was all of them not just the one I saw it on... Ive been using a Ibuypower system for the last 4-5 years Im gonna see what I can get through them then, given that the problems with cyberpower isnt just that one rig then -.-

How would dual 7750s look?
I cant afford dual 6850s; thats 848 or so

Im looking at ibuypower, a system with dual 7750s crossfire
AMD FX-4100 CPU (4x 3.60GHz/4MB L2 Cache)
8MB RAM 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module G.Skills Ripjaws X
Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 -- AMD 970 mobo

it scored crysis 2 on Ultra according to their page

and its 792

man there must be something im not getting here... it shows on their site that the single 7750 runs crysis 2 at ultra high but the 6850 is just high
(given that this will be based off of that engine and all)

Edited by 514yer, 29 June 2012 - 05:31 PM.

[Lightdragon]

build your own dont pay for the same parts marked up in an overpriced case with a builder name on it