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[Zensei]

Scum of the Earth, on 27 January 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

I know this is a game but it's really dumb when someone gets their rocks off knowing they are screwing with a team. About 1 in 10-15 matches, there's always a griefer on my team. I ask the team to report them and maybe they do or they don't but what good is it?

They just make up a free account, use a trial mech, get their account banned and then just turn around and make a new account again. So, banning griefer accounts is all but worthless.

I say, to log into the game you need a valid IP address that is linked to your account. If your IP address shifts every 5 minutes, you know they're using a ghost address. And if they grief you, then you can ban their IP address and they can't make any more account. Is this too hard to put into the game? I have seen many other forums/games ban IP addresses.

Internets and IP adressess are hard? Do you even know how this works? Ban IP, ban IP, ban IP, ban all 4.3 billion of the legit IPv4 adresses, and I will be back in seconds with a diff addy.

Take a class, learn and then LTP

[StraferX]

I have a Ti 99/4a you guys could borrow if you needed to step it up a notch or two.

[DEMAX51]

Scum of the Earth, on 27 January 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

Griefers are the people at the start of the game that wait a second for you to walk past them so they can Alpha strike you in the rear center torso. Usually, even after people turn around to kill him before he kills you, you get negative XP and c-bills plus then you're down one mech AND either have 1 or 2 people dead or severely crippled too. They usually take a Timberwolf or a Nova to do it since they have huge alpha strike ability.

I highly, HIGHLY, doubt that the vast majority of these people are actually doing this on purpose.

First off, a lot of newer players don't even realize that there is Friendly Fire in this game and do it without realizing that it causes damage. Apart from that, this happens all the time when people's fingers slip, or if they're Alt-Tabbing between windows and it fires by accident, or they're trying to set up weapon groupings and accidentally hit \ when they mean to hit Backspace (backspace is the Chain Fire toggle, \ is Alpha Strike).

In short, try to cut 'em some slack and see if they apologize before you just TK them. And also keep in mind that if you DO TK them, YOU are actually the one who can be punished for griefing!

Edited by DEMAX51, 27 January 2015 - 05:31 PM.

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

just ban their mac address, make them spend money to get back on, a mac address is unique to every network adapter and in most cases unchangeable...ya they can get around it but they will have to buy a new network adapter...it can really be a nightmare if the network adapter is built on the motherboard lol....you would notice a stiff decrease in grievers for sure lmao

Edited by Nosferatu 666, 27 January 2015 - 05:27 PM.

[Zensei]

Nosferatu 666, on 27 January 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:

just ban their mac address, make them spend money to get back on, a mac address is unique to every network adapter and in most cases unchangeable...ya they can get around it but they will have to buy a new network adapter

stop it, I can spoof a MAC, I can make a Mac N Cheese, yes they are unique, but so is every Mac n Cheese, I can spoof and hooof and blow your house down.

[Lil Cthulhu]

Nosferatu 666, on 27 January 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:

just ban their mac address, make them spend money to get back on, a mac address is unique to every network adapter and in most cases unchangeable...ya they can get around it but they will have to buy a new network adapter...it can really be a nightmare if the network adapter is built on the motherboard lol....you would notice a stiff decrease in grievers for sure lmao

I really wish people would learn more about how MAC addresses and IPs work before posting this kinda stuff......

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

I said in MOST cases...I can personally change my MAC on the fly, I have a MSI gaming mobo and it supports mac address switching...but the vast majority do not...it would put a giant rusty nail in it

Lil Cthulhu, on 27 January 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

I really wish people would learn more about how MAC addresses and IPs work before posting this kinda stuff......

I am fully aware of how MAC addresses work lmao

[Lil Cthulhu]

Nosferatu 666, on 27 January 2015 - 05:31 PM, said:

I am fully aware of how MAC addresses work lmao

Then why would you even suggest a MAC ban?

Edited by Lil Cthulhu, 27 January 2015 - 05:33 PM.

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

because spoofing a mac ban can have dire personal consequences, for starters in the new age of hacktivism all ISP's log and track MAC addresses and changes in regards to a specific account. You may get past a game ban but you might trigger a federal investigation on yourself as ISP were ordered federally to hand over MAC addresses and any changes I have even been denied a connection and had to jump through hoops on my ISP just from switching adapters. That being said it would force a said person to either stop grieving or risk being put under a federal microscope...something I deem not worth it personally. Let's face it....if spoofing a MAC address just to be a online irritant cost you say...your freedom while you are investigated...you may think twice about doing it more than once

Edited by Nosferatu 666, 27 January 2015 - 05:41 PM.

[Lil Cthulhu]

Nosferatu 666, on 27 January 2015 - 05:39 PM, said:

because spoofing a mac ban can have dire personal consequences, for starters in the new age of hacktivism all ISP's log and track MAC addresses and changes in regards to a specific account. You may get past a game ban but you might trigger a federal investigation on yourself as ISP were ordered federally to hand over MAC addresses and any changes I have even been denied a connection and had to jump through hoops on my ISP just from switching adapters. That being said it would force a said person to either stop grieving or risk being put under a federal microscope...something I deem not worth it personally

Except I've changed MAC addresses several times for various reasons and that has literally happened none times.

[Vassago Rain]

Nosferatu 666, on 27 January 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:

just ban their mac address, make them spend money to get back on, a mac address is unique to every network adapter and in most cases unchangeable...ya they can get around it but they will have to buy a new network adapter...it can really be a nightmare if the network adapter is built on the motherboard lol....you would notice a stiff decrease in grievers for sure lmao

Please stop posting.

Please.

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

A lot of investigation go through interpol and happen without your knowledge or consent, if you notice a lot of lag online, do a quick traceroute...if it bounces off of interpol..well..then you are being watched...if not..you got lucky...the real question..is it worth the risk?

Vassago Rain, on 27 January 2015 - 05:44 PM, said:

Please stop posting.

Please.

Please stop, trolling, pls

[Lil Cthulhu]

Nosferatu 666, on 27 January 2015 - 05:44 PM, said:

A lot of investigation go through interpol and happen without your knowledge or consent, if you notice a lot of lag online, do a quick traceroute...if it bounces off of interpol..well..then you are being watched...if not..you got lucky...the real question..is it worth the risk?




Please stop, trolling, pls

Whatever it is you're smoking, I need some.

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

Oh well , I tried to help...not worth posting any more, the trolls are out in force, have a good day all

[Brody319]

Or we can all agree that trolls will find a way to be trolls. and all the OP is doing is waste time.

[Lil Cthulhu]

Nosferatu 666, on 27 January 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

Oh well , I tried to help...not worth posting any more, the trolls are out in force, have a good day all

Buhbye now.

[Zensei]

Lil Cthulhu, on 27 January 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

Except I've changed MAC addresses several times for various reasons and that has literally happened none times.

Nobody spoofs MAC's, why would you, thats hardware, its hard written. Stop it.

[Brody319]

Zensei, on 27 January 2015 - 05:48 PM, said:

Nobody spoofs MAC's, why would you, thats hardware, its hard written. Stop it.

I've used to get pokemon from events. doesn't take that long, several programs can do it for you.

[Lil Cthulhu]

Zensei, on 27 January 2015 - 05:48 PM, said:

Nobody spoofs MAC's, why would you, thats hardware, its hard written. Stop it.

Go google How to change MAC address.

Feel silly yet?

[Scum of the Earth]

Marack Drock, on 27 January 2015 - 04:57 PM, said:

I agree more could be done potentially in theory but I love how this thread was posted by a guy calling himself the Scum of the Earth... the irony.

Actually, it's one of my favorite Rob Zombie songs and way back when, I would play it loudly while I played MW 3ish/4ish... So, that's why whenever I play Battletech/MW, I use it as my call sign... =)