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[MischiefSC]

I don't mean under your unit tag - I mean on the other side. Other than turrets.

[HBizzle]

Roadbeer, on 07 February 2015 - 10:34 PM, said:

Seriously?

I pulled you and Tony into another channel and spent 5 minutes explaining exactly why I was getting blown up, and even said the words "I mean, it's up to you if you stay or not...".

Spin it how you want, but you and I both know that we were laughing about the paranoia and Tony seemed satisfied that I'd brief him after the meeting, which I did and everything seemed amiable until I find the shitposting on this page.

That still doesn't change the fact we were booted without being given a chance to comment. I appreciate your efforts at communicating with us, but wish the rest of the participants in this meeting had been as amenable to our participation.

[hybrid black]

Davers, on 07 February 2015 - 10:17 PM, said:

It is unfortunate that MS has the reputation it has. There were other merc units who had taken Clan contracts that were not ostracized from the meeting. Roadbeer has spoken well of MS and defended them to the other unit delegates. I will let their actions speak for themselves before passing any judgement.

Davers, on 07 February 2015 - 10:17 PM, said:

It is unfortunate that MS has the reputation it has. There were other merc units who had taken Clan contracts that were not ostracized from the meeting. Roadbeer has spoken well of MS and defended them to the other unit delegates. I will let their actions speak for themselves before passing any judgement.

Sadly no matter what we do people get mad, so why not have fun with it.

MischiefSC, on 07 February 2015 - 10:37 PM, said:

I don't mean under your unit tag - I mean on the other side. Other than turrets.

6 games in 40 min so far, looks like lots want to play.

Edited by hybrid black, 07 February 2015 - 10:42 PM.

[MischiefSC]

hybrid black, on 07 February 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:

Sadly no matter what we do people get mad, so why not have fun with it.



6 games in 40 min so far, looks like lots want to play.

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not on the Davion border. In fact there isn't a Marik/Davion border right now?

See what you did?

If Davion can do it, so can others. Marik will be a tough row to hoe if nobody on 3 borders will give you a match.

The question is, does this 'Star League' player group have the balls and the interest to actively censure like that or will they just let it go?

Edited by MischiefSC, 07 February 2015 - 10:46 PM.

[Klappspaten]

I think I talk for everybody that has been involved in this meeting when I say that we do invite MS to join the ranks of the Star League. IF they agree to abide by the rules that are binding for and where decided by the members of the Star League via popular vote.

All you need to do is to send an representative to the Mercenary organization that is currently being developed, participate in their votes, respect the decisions of the Star League council and the decisions of the faction they are under contract with.

Thats all.

HBizzle, on 07 February 2015 - 10:40 PM, said:

That still doesn't change the fact we were booted without being given a chance to comment. I appreciate your efforts at communicating with us, but wish the rest of the participants in this meeting had been as amenable to our participation.

And do you know whats even worse? We even did a quick vote on that.

Edited by Klappspaten, 07 February 2015 - 10:49 PM.

[hybrid black]

MischiefSC, on 07 February 2015 - 10:43 PM, said:

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not on the Davion border. In fact there isn't a Marik/Davion border right now?

See what you did?

7 drops now
So you see when you don't care about planets, "cease fires", or any of that crap you get as many fights as you want, maybe you should just enjoy the game and not get mad/cry at things you have no control over.

[Roadbeer]

HBizzle, on 07 February 2015 - 10:40 PM, said:

That still doesn't change the fact we were booted without being given a chance to comment. I appreciate your efforts at communicating with us, but wish the rest of the participants in this meeting had been as amenable to our participation.

I will admit, my gut reaction was to ignore the pings I received, and in hindsight, I probably should have.

Given that this isn't my pet project, I only sought for it to run smoothly and openly, being the doorkeeper I made a judgement call to pull you aside and lay out the realities.

But once again, you have to acknowledge that I gave you the option to stay or go.

I would have defended your decision either way. And as anyone who was at the meeting will tell you. I fiercely defended the rights of ALL merc units to be part of this project.

[hybrid black]

Klappspaten, on 07 February 2015 - 10:47 PM, said:

I think I talk for everybody that has been involved in this meeting when I say that we do invite MS to join the ranks of the Star League. IF they agree to abide by the rules that are binding for and where decided by the members of the Star League via popular vote.

All you need to do is to send an representative to the Mercenary organization that is currently being developed, participate in their votes, respect the decisions of the Star League council and the decisions of the faction they are under contract with.

Thats all.



And do you know whats even worse? We even did a quick vote on that.

all i know is when we go back ghost bear this is all going to be so much fun...... i wonder how many 48-0 games it will take for some of your units to go back to fighting other IS, hell the hole kurita faction did already.

[HBizzle]

Roadbeer, on 07 February 2015 - 10:48 PM, said:

I will admit, my gut reaction was to ignore the pings I received, and in hindsight, I probably should have.

Given that this isn't my pet project, I only sought for it to run smoothly and openly, being the doorkeeper I made a judgement call to pull you aside and lay out the realities.

But once again, you have to acknowledge that I gave you the option to stay or go.

I would have defended your decision either way. And as anyone who was at the meeting will tell you. I fiercely defended the rights of ALL merc units to be part of this project.

Yeah but that really wasn't an option. We both knew that. The meeting wouldn't have continued if we had tried to stay. We knew we weren't wanted, and we wont forget that.

[MischiefSC]

hybrid black, on 07 February 2015 - 10:47 PM, said:

7 drops now
So you see when you don't care about planets, "cease fires", or any of that crap you get as many fights as you want, maybe you should just enjoy the game and not get mad/cry at things you have no control over.

hybrid black, on 07 February 2015 - 10:50 PM, said:

all i know is when we go back ghost bear this is all going to be so much fun...... i wonder how many 48-0 games it will take for some of your units to go back to fighting other IS, hell the hole kurita faction did already.

Nobody is getting mad or crying. You guys do your thing. However everyone else can certainly censure you if they want.

There are some great folks in MS, no question. I'm sure it's nice to be part of a unit that's so big you can sway events - the problem though is what does being a member of a group like that say about you? Are you someone to be valued or someone that everyone else groans when they see you joined their faction because all you're going to do is screw with whatever everyone else is doing?

If you want some influence over the direction of your gameplay in community warfare you can be a part of a faction and go from there, directing that faction. Or maybe, I don't know...

join something like the Star League?

If you don't want to deal with politics, factions, alliances and all the things that put 'community' in community warfare there's the group queue.

Or does the group queue not let you put a -MS- logo on something?

[bobF]

Roadbeer, on 07 February 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

Well, hasn't this just become a bunch of half-truths, paranoia, epeen and drama-queens.

Call me when y'all want to take your skirts off and act like Mechwarriors

Mechwarriors fight, they don't bow down to a Neckbeard Council.

[Roadbeer]

HBizzle, on 07 February 2015 - 10:54 PM, said:

Yeah but that really wasn't an option. We both knew that. The meeting wouldn't have continued if we had tried to stay. We knew we weren't wanted, and we wont forget that.

That's up to you.

But who are you really going to hold responsible for it?
Marik?
The rest of the Inner Sphere?
The ever-present "They"?

Marik and MS have always been honest brokers with each other, and have respected each others objectives, even when we weren't on the same side of the conflict.
I've heard reports from others that that's not always the case. Don't know if that's true or not, but as Uma Thurman said in Pulp Fiction "They" talk a lot, don't "They"?

The "myth" of MS is probably much bigger than the corp itself. Y'all earned that reputation you can own it or you can fight it.

Once again, that's your call.

[HBizzle]

MischiefSC, on 07 February 2015 - 11:00 PM, said:

Nobody is getting mad or crying. You guys do your thing. However everyone else can certainly censure you if they want.

There are some great folks in MS, no question. I'm sure it's nice to be part of a unit that's so big you can sway events - the problem though is what does being a member of a group like that say about you? Are you someone to be valued or someone that everyone else groans when they see you joined their faction because all you're going to do is screw with whatever everyone else is doing?

If you want some influence over the direction of your gameplay in community warfare you can be a part of a faction and go from there, directing that faction. Or maybe, I don't know...

join something like the Star League?

If you don't want to deal with politics, factions, alliances and all the things that put 'community' in community warfare there's the group queue.

Or does the group queue not let you put a -MS- logo on something?

I would say CGB welcomes us back with open arms when we come back. They don't groan when we put on our bear coats.

[Roadbeer]

bobF, on 07 February 2015 - 11:01 PM, said:

Mechwarriors fight, they don't bow down to a Neckbeard Council.

Shhh, bobL, grownups are talking.

[Klappspaten]

HBizzle, on 07 February 2015 - 10:54 PM, said:

Yeah but that really wasn't an option. We both knew that. The meeting wouldn't have continued if we had tried to stay. We knew we weren't wanted, and we wont forget that.

Maybe you should ask yourself why it is that you weren´t wanted.

I have no personal issue with you guys, but if you want to be a part of our Star League you have to abide by the rules we have decided, like everyone else. And if you don´t want to be a part of it, then stop complaining.

If you would have insisted on addressing the conference I can´t imagine that we wouldn´t have let you do so.

[MischiefSC]

HBizzle, on 07 February 2015 - 11:03 PM, said:

I would say CGB welcomes us back with open arms when we come back. They don't groan when we put on our bear coats.

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You mean those guys who polish your mechs when you are away and tell each other stories of that one time they got to watch an MS group kick ass?

You are CGB. We all know that. There isn't a CGB without big merc units there.

[hybrid black]

MischiefSC, on 07 February 2015 - 11:00 PM, said:

Nobody is getting mad or crying. You guys do your thing. However everyone else can certainly censure you if they want.

There are some great folks in MS, no question. I'm sure it's nice to be part of a unit that's so big you can sway events - the problem though is what does being a member of a group like that say about you? Are you someone to be valued or someone that everyone else groans when they see you joined their faction because all you're going to do is screw with whatever everyone else is doing?

If you want some influence over the direction of your gameplay in community warfare you can be a part of a faction and go from there, directing that faction. Or maybe, I don't know...

join something like the Star League?

If you don't want to deal with politics, factions, alliances and all the things that put 'community' in community warfare there's the group queue.

Or does the group queue not let you put a -MS- logo on something?

no what you are saying is something MS has been doing since day one.

[bobF]

Roadbeer, on 07 February 2015 - 11:06 PM, said:

Shhh, bobL, grownups are talking.

I'm sure. I tried addressing you people as rational adults by pointing out the obvious (i.e. no one wants to actually stack queues to drop on turrets for hours) but you would rather drink the Clan haterade in great amounts.

How unseemly.

[Benjamin Davion]

What no one from MS has addressed here yet is the simple fact that they (reportedly) openly stated their intentions to totally disregard any plans or agreements the Star League makes. If that's the case, why are you whinging over not being included? And by the way, isn't a big part of Merc Star supporting the MWO community? Well, a large part of the community just decided that they want to form a Star League and work together, and for some reason while simultaneously whinging about not being included you're openly declaring your intentions to actively sabotage it? This is about the equivalent of a group of kids deciding they want to play Risk instead of Monopoly and one of this kids just deciding to drop a Monopoly board in the middle of the Risk game and strutting around squawking about good of a Monopoly player he is.

[MischiefSC]

hybrid black, on 07 February 2015 - 11:12 PM, said:

no what you are saying is something MS has been doing since day one.

Difference being that the game changes over time as players and factions get organized and such.

Not telling you how to play - just saying that people can, and will, change and build opinions and big groups of players can and will censure each other over that.