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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:37 PM

View PostLord Letto, on 22 March 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

User.cfg for that 6300, Credit goes to Smokeyjedi, edit as needed:


plug it in and OC as much as possible, 4.5GHz+ if that 970 chipset allows it, I know a 990FX would have. i'd love to see results of this CPU @ 4.8GHz.

I just copy and paste this into my user.cfg file using Notepad, right?

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:47 PM

View PostShinobiHunter, on 22 March 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

I just copy and paste this into my user.cfg file using Notepad, right?

Make a notepad txt file on your desktop yes, and save that text into it, Adjust memory values accordingly, including VRAM value

Save file as User.cfg

you could also limit your maxsystem_FPS to your monitor refresh, as mine is 144hz..........

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 22 March 2015 - 04:48 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2015 - 05:45 PM

Congrats on the build!!

I actually just build one myself a few days ago. I went with the i5 4690K intel processor though.

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 11:41 PM

View PostS204STi, on 22 March 2015 - 03:05 PM, said:


Sort of; the desktop 4690k has four physical cores. Depends on the line.

So it end up at 8 cores when considering hyper-threading? Or is hyper-threading not enabled on those? I have to admit that specifications tend to be rather intransparent in that regard...

View PostGoose, on 22 March 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:


OEMs are a semi-decent short-term solution if you need a completely new rig and graphics cards tend to be the last thing to upgrade since you can carry them over to the new mobo 90% of the time. Pragmatism always wins after that.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 04:58 AM

View PostSethAbercromby, on 22 March 2015 - 11:41 PM, said:

So it end up at 8 cores when considering hyper-threading? Or is hyper-threading not enabled on those? I have to admit that specifications tend to be rather intransparent in that regard...

Pretty sure when Intel's site says "Hyperthreading: No" on the pages for i5 CPUs it's pretty clear...

Desktop i3 and i7 chips have hyperthreading, Desktop i5 chips do not. With mobile chips it is less clear, but they do not use the same model numbers. The general rule with notebooks is a mobile i3 will not have hyperthreading, but the i5 and i7 mobile chips will. There are a fair amount of exceptions to this rule.

At any rate, all you have to do is type "Intel iX XXXX" into Google and open the intel.com ARK page for the chip you're looking for and it tells you all of the specs and features of the CPU.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 04:53 PM

One more quick question: Do I need to change any in game setting after using this user.cfg?

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 06:53 PM

Not really: q_ShaderWater sort'a interacts with Environment, but as long as you restart the game after messing with that slider, you'll be fine.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 07:40 PM

Everyone has an opinion on hardware and that's great. Honestly most people commenting on such things lack the experience and budget to know much about what they talk about. MWO as a game gets little improvement from massive video cards or super fast CPUs. Any 4core will due (though a fast 2 core also works fine for this) somewhere in the 3Ghz range. Ram 4Gb or more is fine regardless of speed brand or type from DDR2-DDR4. A solid state drive will not get you frame rates because it's not possible. Right now any current gen video card will give you more then enough power to get respectable frame rates. With these guidelines in mind you'll have no issue getting what you want for little money. Buy the best you can for the least you want to spend but don't let these guys tell you some crap like AMD sucks or INTEL is overpriced because most don't even know what they are talking about.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 08:11 PM

View PostNikkoChan, on 23 March 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Everyone has an opinion on hardware and that's great. Honestly most people commenting on such things lack the experience and budget to know much about what they talk about. MWO as a game gets little improvement from massive video cards or super fast CPUs. Any 4core will due (though a fast 2 core also works fine for this) somewhere in the 3Ghz range. Ram 4Gb or more is fine regardless of speed brand or type from DDR2-DDR4. A solid state drive will not get you frame rates because it's not possible. Right now any current gen video card will give you more then enough power to get respectable frame rates. With these guidelines in mind you'll have no issue getting what you want for little money. Buy the best you can for the least you want to spend but don't let these guys tell you some crap like AMD sucks or INTEL is overpriced because most don't even know what they are talking about.


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Okay, well let me chime in here as someone who has played MWO on four different models of CPU, from a 1.6ghz i7-720QM to a 3770k at 4.6. That's absolute crap. None of the chips I have or have had are capable of playing MWO entirely satisfactorily. Sorry, but my Phenom II, sitting "somewhere in the 3ghz range" was nowhere near being up to the task of running this game at adequate framerates, especially during heavy action, and if you think any dual core out there comes close at a mere 3ghz, then I want some of what you're smoking. The Pentium G3258 starts becoming halfway decent in the mid 4ghz range, or about half again what you're suggesting. This game requires an insanely powerful CPU for good framerates, and a considerably powerful gaming CPU for solidly playable framerates.

Also, AMD does suck for this game. Phenom IIs are old, and FX chips' CMT architecture is just a massive helping of failsauce for this game.

Edited by Catamount, 23 March 2015 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2015 - 08:11 PM

At what point should I be concerned about my Motherboard and CPU temps when overclocking?

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 11:16 PM

View PostCatamount, on 23 March 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:


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Okay, well let me chime in here as someone who has played MWO on four different models of CPU, from a 1.6ghz i7-720QM to a 3770k at 4.6. That's absolute crap. None of the chips I have or have had are capable of playing MWO entirely satisfactorily. Sorry, but my Phenom II, sitting "somewhere in the 3ghz range" was nowhere near being up to the task of running this game at adequate framerates, especially during heavy action, and if you think any dual core out there comes close at a mere 3ghz, then I want some of what you're smoking. The Pentium G3258 starts becoming halfway decent in the mid 4ghz range, or about half again what you're suggesting. This game requires an insanely powerful CPU for good framerates, and a considerably powerful gaming CPU for solidly playable framerates.

Also, AMD does suck for this game. Phenom IIs are old, and FX chips' CMT architecture is just a massive helping of failsauce for this game.


It be nice is you were baseing this on what I had posted but you don't seem to be able to read. You missed the second part. With a current gen GPU. Rocking 955X II or my i7 4770K results are not much different for me. It comes down to GPU. I know you have read a forum or two and that's great but Cry runs most off GPU along with most modern platforms. CPU simply needs to keep up and 3.0 Ghz is more then enough to do that. Feel free to buy a 300+ CPU to play this game but it's overkill and for someone trying to save a buck it's the wrong place to put the money. Sure slam 32Gbs or ram in but your not going to get your bang for buck in this game. Spend the money on GPU something current gen and mid range. CPUs are much faster then most current applications require and MWO is no exception.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 11:27 PM

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 04:33 AM

View PostNikkoChan, on 23 March 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:


It be nice is you were baseing this on what I had posted but you don't seem to be able to read. You missed the second part. With a current gen GPU. Rocking 955X II or my i7 4770K results are not much different for me. It comes down to GPU. I know you have read a forum or two and that's great but Cry runs most off GPU along with most modern platforms. CPU simply needs to keep up and 3.0 Ghz is more then enough to do that. Feel free to buy a 300+ CPU to play this game but it's overkill and for someone trying to save a buck it's the wrong place to put the money. Sure slam 32Gbs or ram in but your not going to get your bang for buck in this game. Spend the money on GPU something current gen and mid range. CPUs are much faster then most current applications require and MWO is no exception.

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So... you don't actually know how any of this works and you're trying to tell multiple people that have done hundreds of hours of combined testing that we're all wrong. Well, at least you're confident in your ignorance, but that doesn't help that you're giving wrong information.

MWO eats CPU cycles and requires an extremely fast CPU (preferably an overclocked i5 or i7) to be able to play at high/very high settings without the game turning into a slideshow.

Actually, scratch that last part. Even my 5820K at 4.5GhZ is unable to keep up when (true story) you get every type of weapon shot at you by 12 people at the same time. Way too many particles and shadows being generated by that amount of missiles, ballistics, and laser beams. Still can't believe I was the only person on my team to break the 30 match score barrier in that one... terrible!

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 06:22 AM

View PostNikkoChan, on 23 March 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:


It be nice is you were baseing this on what I had posted but you don't seem to be able to read. You missed the second part. With a current gen GPU. Rocking 955X II or my i7 4770K results are not much different for me. It comes down to GPU..


No. That's not how this works; that's not how any of this works. If your GPU is absolute crap, then sure, you might not notice any difference. Being blind may also induce a similar condition. You say "any current gen GPU", well guess what? An R5 240 is a current gen GPU. That doesn't mean it'll run MWO in any manner approaching playability. In fact you've entirely contradicted yourself here. You say it "all comes down to GPU", implying a GPU bottleneck, but then basically say 'any GPU will do', which implies the exact opposite. I think you're very, very confused.

If you do have a remotely decent GPU, and you've satisfied MWO's moderate requirements on that end, then it comes completely down to CPU, and if you're really not capable of noticing the difference between minimum framerates in the 20s and minimums in the 40s on up, then the problem is somewhere between your keyboard and your chair. Most of us can, and consequently we recommend CPUs that can actually deliver good framerates in this game.

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 07:24 AM

View PostZensei, on 10 February 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

AMD has been completely left in the dust for gaming rigs, don't do it, its not that much more for the Intel, where are we on Intel I? 4th or 5th generation? The first generation of the I's killed AMD for gaming, they have never caught up and are fighting off Nvidia and ARM for the browsing market.

Gaming rigs are becoming an endangered species, Software companies are going to have to give away rigs at this pace they havent kept up with what Xbox and Playstation software developers get out of that hardware and console hardware is pathetic compared to a modern 2/11/15 rig, they are using ancient graphic cards on their newest systems.

I've been using a overclocked Core2 Duo with the very best Graphic card I can afford which is currently a Nvidia 660Ti and its playing fine.

But I am upgrading soon with the best I can buy and I'll build it myself. VERY good advice on building a gaming rig prior to my comment, save some money and the rest is easy, we will help with the build. GL
I play mwo on a Radeon 7950 video card w/ an i7 processor, I had a 660Ti too, but I broke it playing civilization 5 :( I'm currently going to build a desktop that's about as good that those other guys are recommending for shinobi THe rdeon works pretty well

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 07:28 AM

View PostNikkoChan, on 23 March 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Everyone has an opinion on hardware and that's great. Honestly most people commenting on such things lack the experience and budget to know much about what they talk about. MWO as a game gets little improvement from massive video cards or super fast CPUs. Any 4core will due (though a fast 2 core also works fine for this) somewhere in the 3Ghz range. Ram 4Gb or more is fine regardless of speed brand or type from DDR2-DDR4. A solid state drive will not get you frame rates because it's not possible. Right now any current gen video card will give you more then enough power to get respectable frame rates. With these guidelines in mind you'll have no issue getting what you want for little money. Buy the best you can for the least you want to spend but don't let these guys tell you some crap like AMD sucks or INTEL is overpriced because most don't even know what they are talking about.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-4200 3.3GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($59.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling ACALP64-GT 25.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NS Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 1GB Core Edition Video Card ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC FM18-W ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.19 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $491.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-24 11:25 EDT-0400
4 Core in the 3GHz Range: Check
4GB of Any Type of Ram: Check
No SSD: Check
Current Gen Video Card: Check

Now Build it and Test it, Put your Money Where your Mouth is!

View PostCatamount, on 24 March 2015 - 06:22 AM, said:


No. That's not how this works; that's not how any of this works. If your GPU is absolute crap, then sure, you might not notice any difference. Being blind may also induce a similar condition. You say "any current gen GPU", well guess what? An R5 240 is a current gen GPU. That doesn't mean it'll run MWO in any manner approaching playability. In fact you've entirely contradicted yourself here. You say it "all comes down to GPU", implying a GPU bottleneck, but then basically say 'any GPU will do', which implies the exact opposite. I think you're very, very confused.

If you do have a remotely decent GPU, and you've satisfied MWO's moderate requirements on that end, then it comes completely down to CPU, and if you're really not capable of noticing the difference between minimum framerates in the 20s and minimums in the 40s on up, then the problem is somewhere between your keyboard and your chair. Most of us can, and consequently we recommend CPUs that can actually deliver good framerates in this game.

According to Wikipedia (so I don't know how true it is), The Bulk of the HD 7000 Series, R7 240, 250, 250X, 265, R9 270, 270X, 280, 280X are Southern Islands using GCN 1.0, While Sea Islands (GCN 1.1) includes the HD 7790, R7 260, 260X, R9 285, 290 & 290X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon (Scroll down to Technology Overview)

Edited by Lord Letto, 24 March 2015 - 07:36 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 08:26 AM

View PostLord Letto, on 24 March 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-4200 3.3GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($59.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling ACALP64-GT 25.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NS Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 1GB Core Edition Video Card ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC FM18-W ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.19 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $491.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-24 11:25 EDT-0400
4 Core in the 3GHz Range: Check
4GB of Any Type of Ram: Check
No SSD: Check
Current Gen Video Card: Check

Now Build it and Test it, Put your Money Where your Mouth is!


According to Wikipedia (so I don't know how true it is), The Bulk of the HD 7000 Series, R7 240, 250, 250X, 265, R9 270, 270X, 280, 280X are Southern Islands using GCN 1.0, While Sea Islands (GCN 1.1) includes the HD 7790, R7 260, 260X, R9 285, 290 & 290X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon (Scroll down to Technology Overview)

There will be no need for him to build that build, I have a AMD Phenom II 960T and a Asrock 970 ATX board with 8 gbs of DDR3 1600 and a AMD XFX 6970 1 gb card I am getting ready to put a clean install of Windows 7 on today and reinstall MWO. I will run test with it and post my results. I only have a stock cooler for it, so don't expect to much of a over clock on it, but I will see what I can do with it.

While I don't completely agree with what he is saying, I am seeing the same old claims made by many that AMD is just $hit for this game. Having all chips in question up and running in my house, and you guys know I just went with the I74790K and retired my FX-8350 after selling it for as much as I paid for it 2 years ago, some of the claims being made regarding the FX-series... at least with my experience and the 8350 is just not correct or accurate. Yes Intel's I5's/I7's do put out better numbers then the FX-chips.... as I have stated before, My FX-8350 build ran this game smoothly, and looking back, I didn't need to upgrade to Intel to enjoy this game. Other then the normal dips that we all see, the FX-8350 performed well at this game and any other that I threw at it. If I was going to build a new system today, would I go Intel over the FX-8350.... most likely yes, I would. Is it needed, or worth the extra cost for the I74790K? IMO, no it isn't needed, and unless you just want to push the highest numbers in FPS you can, no its not worth the extra $100-150 for the I74790K.

I do feel that AMD is kinda at a dead end right now, and I hope they get their desktop cpu's back in the race for all of our sakes. Amd not being in the race against Intel is really not a good thing for us consumers, and in the end if it stays this way, progress is gonna be even more expensive then it is now, and very lacking with Intel's new chips, IMO. I will put up some numbers with the Phenom II 960T and 6970 2 gb card as soon as I get a chance to do so. I also have a Intel Q9550 and a ATI 4870 1 gb card also still around. I also have some older AMDX2 like the 6000x2 I could run for $hits and giggles.

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 26 March 2015 - 12:48 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 10:57 AM

I don't think anybody here specifically stated AMD was crap for this game so much as we all stated that this one particular guy was dead wrong about what he assumes this game needs to perform.

Having said that, I will probably not have an AMD chip in my gaming/studio desktop for quite some time. I would be willing to buy an excavator chip for a media server or something, and would be willing to toy around with a Zen chip whenever they finally come out, but they will not be serious purchases for performance machines until they at least reach parity with Intel chips.

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 11:08 AM

View PostxWiredx, on 24 March 2015 - 10:57 AM, said:

I don't think anybody here specifically stated AMD was crap for this game so much as we all stated that this one particular guy was dead wrong about what he assumes this game needs to perform.

Having said that, I will probably not have an AMD chip in my gaming/studio desktop for quite some time. I would be willing to buy an excavator chip for a media server or something, and would be willing to toy around with a Zen chip whenever they finally come out, but they will not be serious purchases for performance machines until they at least reach parity with Intel chips.

Here seems to be one such claim....

"Also, AMD does suck for this game. Phenom IIs are old, and FX chips' CMT architecture is just a massive helping of failsauce for this game"

Having worked with both chips from both sides..... The first and last statement is just false, a opinion, nothing more.

Here is a claim made by yourself.... IMO from first hand experience with both Amd and Intel.... this is a bit of a extreme claim, don't ya think?

"MWO eats CPU cycles and requires an extremely fast CPU (preferably an overclocked i5 or i7) to be able to play at high/very high settings without the game turning into a slideshow."

Not trying to argue with you here Wired....but my FX-8350 never felt like I was playing a slideshow even at 4.5 ghz OC and on air. This is a very mild over clock for the FX-8350... not something that can't be reached by most that own them. Just saying, seems to be a lot of trash talk about some of the Amd CPU's, and some pretty bold and extreme claims against them. There are also some pretty extreme claims from others regarding just what certain AMD CPU's can do. Either way, a few extreme opinions flying both ways.

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 24 March 2015 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 11:33 AM

View PostLord Letto, on 24 March 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-4200 3.3GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($59.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling ACALP64-GT 25.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NS Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 1GB Core Edition Video Card ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC FM18-W ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.19 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $491.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-24 11:25 EDT-0400
4 Core in the 3GHz Range: Check
4GB of Any Type of Ram: Check
No SSD: Check
Current Gen Video Card: Check

Now Build it and Test it, Put your Money Where your Mouth is!


According to Wikipedia (so I don't know how true it is), The Bulk of the HD 7000 Series, R7 240, 250, 250X, 265, R9 270, 270X, 280, 280X are Southern Islands using GCN 1.0, While Sea Islands (GCN 1.1) includes the HD 7790, R7 260, 260X, R9 285, 290 & 290X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon (Scroll down to Technology Overview)



this is exactly the kinda system I am talking for someone who dosn't wanna spend a bunch of money and wants to play this game acceptably. I have never said that a HARDCORE system will not be faster. I nice I7 system with a ton of ram and top of the line video will be better. However to tell someone who is on a budget that they must by I5 or better and must run 8+ GB ram and must load up on HD is absurd. This kinda system will do the trick from someone wanting to build.

Additionally I have the same marks in MWO with a I7 4770K as I have had with AMD FX8320. Also a 955 XII never did too much worse either. By what your all saying the 4770K should have killed it. I never seen the difference to justify the cost. Only change in hardware was MOBO. You can pull graphs and videos all day long of I-whatever smokeing FX-whatever but dollar for dollar you can't always see the same thing. For the record yes 3.0 Ghz of Intel is almost always faster then 3.0 Ghz of AMD but we are talking about value for money for someone building on the cheap. Also you can only perceive so much with a naked eye.You cant tell me you can see 70 FPS vs 100 FPS, your eye just can't track it. Yeah I don't think if you have 1200+ to spend that you should go and buy and AMD or settle for just 3.0 Ghz but this is not the case. The system listed above will play the game fine and he will enjoy it. That's what counts.

Finaly this is something to look at. http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/cpu CPU performance VS money. Yes the i7s kill it for performance and the i5s do great too... just not for the money.

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