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[CGB Behemoth]

Please don't get mad guys.
All we needed the way to attack Kurita, not CSJ planets. Sadly, but there is no any diplomacy mechanism in this game, so we couldn't just "buy" it.
In this moment clans need to unite in defend. Now our priority goal is to protect ANY clan planet under attack.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

[Von Blumen]

pbiggz, on 08 February 2015 - 10:21 PM, said:

Angry words, epeen, QQ...

You and your unit are nothing but huge **** stirrers. You came to CSJ when we were the second biggest of all the clans and served to do nothing other than agitate. Look at the time lapse pal, we were quickly growing without your "help." So get that delusion out of your head. We tried, numerous times to work with you, but no you kept rebuffing our attempts and then tried to paint the whole clan as anti-merc, all because we wouldn't let a few trolls have their fun. I personally sent out messages to your unit and you disregarded them. CSJ works with mercs, as long as the mercs work with us, which you all refused to do from the start. Funny that you mention your time with Kurita, as from what I understand all your unit did was agitate and stir the pot over there too. Just browsing you and your unit's post history will show what trolls you all really are. Tuck your tail between your legs and run. Or do what ever you do forum warriors...you know where JGx and I will be, should your unit ever grow a pair...

Good luck Jade Falcons, they are your problem now...

Edited by Von Blumen, 09 February 2015 - 01:09 AM.

[Vlad Ward]

In all honesty though, I'm not sure when or where we refused to work with CSJ. Are you upset because we didn't reply to your request for duels and skirmishes? If so, I apologize. A unit as small as ours is lucky to field a 10-man where only half the mechs are Clan Trials. While our core consists of a bunch of retired comp players, I have no real interest in putting our new recruits and recently returned closed beta players in the line of fire. Getting mad because we don't really want to drop in the Strana TS and drink beers with the gang is just silly, though. We have our quirks, our boundaries, and our personal comfort zones and just like that one girl at the office we aren't obligated to go out with you, not even once.

What I got sick of, and what you readily demonstrate here, is the constant swarm of accusations meted out by JGx. You guys seem to love painting all mercs with the same brush, and blame everyone and everything but yourselves for your problems. When QQ first attacked Ghost Bear, you ran to accuse 228 of the exact same **** because they happened to come from the same faction and had the audacity to agree with QQ's line of thought. When I dared to politely ask you to stop treating mercs like ****, suddenly I was a party to their "infractions" as well. You want to know how we got our name on a completely undefended Ghost Bear world when we can barely field 12? Because the Ghost Bears wanted someone to clean out their FRR pimple, and we were happy to oblige. They even thanked us (and the rest of CSJ) afterwards.

You seem to think that just because I disagree with your e-fascist game design vision that I'm some kind of e-anarchist, out to disrupt all forms of established e-order for the sake of it. The truth is we have a lot of friends in the Smoke Jaguars. Before the Smoke Adders decided to play MWO as a group, a good few of their members were part of my unit. They're great guys, and I enjoyed having a chance to play with them again. We care about CSJ's progression as a faction, and we're protective of her interests because for as long as our contract lasts they're our interests as well. We're just really tired of you and Prussian turning us into comic book villains to fit your distorted e-political narrative.

[Ghogiel]

I firmly believe that all butthurt should be sorted out with a trial of grievance. That way everyone can shut up and move on. Not that I know anything about any of this supposed beef JGx has with 228th, no one said anything to me about it. Or REM for that matter, I didn't even know there was all this **** stirring going on until I just read this thread lol, I just want to do a trial of grievance.

[Von Blumen]

Vlad Ward, on 09 February 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

Words.

See you on the field then.

07

[Jaroth Corbett]

Von Blumen, I added you as a friend. You just keep pimp slapping Vlad Ward. Shame he has the name of my e-hero.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 09 February 2015 - 07:25 AM.

[pbiggz]

Jaroth Corbett, on 09 February 2015 - 07:25 AM, said:

Von Blumen, I added you as a friend. You just keep pimp slapping Vlad Ward. Shame he has the name of my e-hero.

You really aren't helping here.

[Von Blumen]

pbiggz, on 09 February 2015 - 07:52 AM, said:

You really aren't helping here.

Funny, neither has Remnant...

[Deadfire]

Von Blumen, on 09 February 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

Funny, neither has Remnant...

#shotsfired

[pbiggz]

Von Blumen, on 09 February 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

Funny, neither has Remnant...

He says after we spend three weeks building his ******* occupation zone up from almost nothing. We cooperated with other units such as Smoke adders, which as I understand, are much larger than yours, and we often led your pugs to success, but if we really didnt help, then you wouldnt care so much that we've left. Seems apparent that it does bother you though.



I have no intention of backing down from my position unless you stop insulting my friends and my unit.

[Epitaph]

Von Blumen, on 08 February 2015 - 05:00 PM, said:

This coming from the unit that repeatedly poked CGB and aggravated the situation with CGB every chance you got and told both CSJ and CGB that diplomacy was stupid and not part of "your game." This after you were told repeatedly through forums to attack south and take out Kurita, while they were weak, but that was not a challenge for you. And now look, CSJ has 4 fronts, which are now being pushed on by organized IS forces, and 1 front being pushed by CGB, who you so desperately wanted to fight. The game you wanted is here, the challenge is now here, and Remnant has tucked tail and ran, but yet still slings mud from the safety of Falcon space. Perhaps I would respect your opinions if you stayed to help weather the storm that you helped create here, but I guess we all see what your unit truly is. Come and either join in the fight here, where the real challenge is or keep your skirt on in Falcon space.

First and foremost, I do not appreciate the tone of your posts, nor have you shown any appreciable attempt to put forth your opinions without any of your ridiculous accusations and outlandish lies.

That aside. Let's get down to business on past events. As many CSJ units have seen, once a Kurita attack world goes 100% the defenders simply stop queuing, therefore eliminating one game option. Smoke jaguar has no other attack avenues, and the defense planets are hit or miss at best. At the time CSJ could gain an attack lane in FRR without blocking CGB's advance into both Kurita and FRR. Yes. We attacked ghost bear in attempts to open up an FRR attack lane (the same reason given by ghost bear units in recent events). This occurred for two evenings. Precisely two evenings. These actions were brutally rebuffed by CSJ loyalist units, so we ceased the attempt and simply stopped playing CW once Kurita planets hit 100%.

We listened to your requests and we obeyed them. We took up a SECOND two week contract after these transgressions because we believed them to be resolved and behind us. We like the units in CSJ, and we don't mind following their rules since the games (and the pay) are good. I can't speak for the forums since I do not post, but we do not troll in game. Quite the opposite, we gather our pugs, tell them the game plan and support each player until the end of the game. We participate in EST evening and afternoon timeslots to defend CSJ's interests and advance their holdings into Kurita space towards Terra- as you have asked.

Yes. The lanes we wanted are now here. And frankly, we would love to stay with CSJ and help fight. However the truth remains that I have several of my members asking to leave CSJ because of the hostile behavior shown to us (as a unit, not even simply the members who are posting- which frankly, is rude and unbecoming). We operate on 14 day contracts. We are supposed to fly the CSJ banner until the 13th. However the overwhelming majority have asked to terminate our contract ASAP. We are supposed to remain Clan until the 13th for our newer member's sake (who do not have IS non-trials), so we took up a CJF 7 day contract. We could not go CGB because of the anger and distrust that would garner. We did not go Wolf because they no longer have attack lanes. We actively chose our route to please CSJ interests and part on good terms. And you berate us for it?

Von Blumen, on 09 February 2015 - 12:35 AM, said:

You and your unit are nothing but huge **** stirrers. You came to CSJ when we were the second biggest of all the clans and served to do nothing other than agitate. Look at the time lapse pal, we were quickly growing without your "help." So get that delusion out of your head. We tried, numerous times to work with you, but no you kept rebuffing our attempts and then tried to paint the whole clan as anti-merc, all because we wouldn't let a few trolls have their fun. I personally sent out messages to your unit and you disregarded them. CSJ works with mercs, as long as the mercs work with us, which you all refused to do from the start. Funny that you mention your time with Kurita, as from what I understand all your unit did was agitate and stir the pot over there too. Just browsing you and your unit's post history will show what trolls you all really are. Tuck your tail between your legs and run. Or do what ever you do forum warriors...you know where JGx and I will be, should your unit ever grow a pair...

Good luck Jade Falcons, they are your problem now...

We came to CSJ at the EXACT SAME TIME as these other units, it did not weigh into our decisions because it simply was not known to us. We REMAINED in CSJ once these units began to leave, BECAUSE THEIR PRESENCE DID NOT MATTER TO US.

We claimed Kurita worlds in the name of CSJ, look at the map and see. They are few, because we are small, but the planets are there.

You "tried to work with us" and we complied. We ceased the "open FRR attack lane" at CSJ leadership's behest, and since then followed your rules.

I did not receive any messages from you or your comrades. Doing the slightest bit of searching would have lead you to my name so don't try to play the "didn't know" card. Even searching within your loyalist units would have led you to people who could point you in the direction of precisely which of our members to message for best impact.

Kurita (at the time of our contract with them) refused to attack Clan holdings, and only wished to defend. We suggested capitalizing on the Davion border, since Kurita was slowly losing planets and not gaining any. This was rebuffed and we ceased there was well. Kurita units looked upon us with hostility since then, so we decided not to renew our 14 day contract with them once it expired.

For any other concerns you and I can talk via messages or you may come to our teamspeak to discuss, since I hardly see the point on putting these non-public matters on public display. This goes for your CSJ fellows berating my unit and my pilots.

EDIT: First response past-tense correction, Kurita contract clarifcation

Edited by Epitaph, 09 February 2015 - 01:17 PM.

[ArchSight]

Looks like bull drama. Leaving a faction over only a few player's words that don't speak for a entire faction nore have any power to do anything to a player. Leaving because of them gives them the power to banish players from their presence. It's being a little too sensitive to care about some strangers words that the player doesn't even respect.

Stop acting as the whole CSJ faction is against mercs. That's a lie. The player's in this faction have their own reasons for the choice's they make.


Good luck on everyone's efforts in Community Warfare, I hope they turn out to be good games.

[semalferuzA]

Just going to throw into this mess than I've done a lot of solo dropping and have had many games led by tagged players. The games always go better and are often won or at least somewhat close, even against most 8-12man drops. I'm sure the other pugs enjoy it as well.

+1 in appreciation for leading pugs.

[pbiggz]

ArchSight, on 09 February 2015 - 01:43 PM, said:

Looks like bull drama. Leaving a faction over only a few player's words that don't speak for a entire faction nore have any power to do anything to a player. Leaving because of them gives them the power to banish players from their presence. It's being a little too sensitive to care about some strangers words that the player doesn't even respect.

Stop acting as the whole CSJ faction is against mercs. That's a lie. The player's in this faction have their own reasons for the choice's they make.


Good luck on everyone's efforts in Community Warfare, I hope they turn out to be good games.

Were distancing ourselves because specific players have made staying here miserable, you have painted us with broad brushstrokes, and when we single out the people responsible, you accuse us of painting you with broad brush strokes. This is a lie. We were more than happy to work with CSJ and most often did, but apparently that wasn't enough for some of you. See you on the battle field.

[Von Blumen]

Epitaph, PM sent. No other CSJ or JGx member is berating you, your unit, or your pilots, just big bad me. You or any of your unit want to reach me...click the PM button, cause I am done with the epeening forum warrior bs.

[Frankenst3in]

This thread is still happening? Holy cow. Anyways, I guess The JF tags explain where REM went, gg's fellas, a pleasure fighting by your side. Same for 228th, SJR, and any other affiliated merc units. Many good fights were had, and many more to come.

[Roadbeer]

[Wingbreaker]

Roadbeer, on 09 February 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

SO BOUT THEM WARM BODIES WHICH CJF NEEDS.